Mentors Please
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Geso Calamari
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Join date: 21 Mar 2006
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03-21-2006 11:37
I suspect part of this issue is the large number of online gamers that hear about SL and try it, believing it is another young male dominated experience that girls may play a little but rarely master.
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Usagi Musashi
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Join date: 24 Oct 2004
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03-23-2006 02:03
LOL who cares about SL names  its only a vr name........What is really strange is people really thinking japanese names are cool.fact is some of those names ( not all) thats sound like japanese are not even japanese........MUSASHI example is a nice name buit rumors about how popular this guy is totaly wrong. Ok ther is a univerity named after him, and a sports train system too( not related) But gesh what the big deal about having a japanese name? maybe its thatr i had one all my life.......
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Nepenthes Ixchel
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Join date: 6 Dec 2005
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03-23-2006 02:24
*sets her tag to "single RL-female mentor looking for boyfriend"* I don't see the problem, the newbies are all talking to me. 
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Usagi Musashi
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03-23-2006 02:27
From: Nepenthes Ixchel *sets her tag to "single RL-female mentor looking for boyfriend"* I don't see the problem, the newbies are all talking to me.  heheheh 
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Amethyst DeFarge
BWA / Mentor
Join date: 6 Dec 2004
Posts: 41
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03-23-2006 02:51
As a relatively new mentor I had never considered "posessivness of a newbie " to be an issue. Wandering around HI making sure they feel welcome and answering questions, talking to and learning from other mentors. Teaching. If chatting to other mentors and a newbie asks a question we may both answer... I respect and appreciate their input, as im sure the newbie does too. Or is mentoring suddenly some kind of competition??
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Sky McGann
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Join date: 9 Nov 2005
Posts: 80
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Let a Mentor do that - Mentor
04-10-2006 01:58
Here is my issue. I was on HI and suddenly it was like a barrage of mentors came to where I was teaching/mentoring two people at the same time. Suddenly it was like my teaching wasn't important and particle was rezz'd and souls were stolen. C'mon guys.... I might be new as a mentor, but I've been mentoring new citizens since my second week in SL. If you want to take souls or rez particles, do it on your land. If you don't have land, there is a sandbox you can fun in. Enjoy. But please, if you see me teaching/mentoring. Don't come by. I take my mentor tag seriously and want others to benefit from all that SL has to offer.
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Sky McGann
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Join date: 9 Nov 2005
Posts: 80
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I prefer............
04-10-2006 02:26
From: Torley Linden "Newbie" is kind of generic. My usage of it isn't frequent, but if someone refers to themselves as such, I may address them as "newbie" in kind. However, for the specific purposes of Second Life, as long as "new Resident" may be, is one reason why I've shortened "Resident" to "Resi" . Perhaps that could extended to call new Resis "newRes". "n00b", on the other hand, carries more of a derogatory meaning, the way I've seen it used in conjunction with other words like "PWN" and "STFU". This whole Mentor thing is a very unique aspect of Second Life... and I like that we have unique terms too! Part of our culture.  I actually prefer to call the newbies "New Citizens". It has a better ring to it than New Residents.  ) I never use nOOb's as I agree, it seems a bit derogatory.
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Usagi Musashi
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04-10-2006 03:31
From: Sky McGann Here is my issue. I was on HI and suddenly it was like a barrage of mentors came to where I was teaching/mentoring two people at the same time. Suddenly it was like my teaching wasn't important and particle was rezz'd and souls were stolen. C'mon guys.... I might be new as a mentor, but I've been mentoring new citizens since my second week in SL. If you want to take souls or rez particles, do it on your land. If you don't have land, there is a sandbox you can fun in. Enjoy. But please, if you see me teaching/mentoring. Don't come by. I take my mentor tag seriously and want others to benefit from all that SL has to offer. Well i take it seriuos. enought to the point where i can`t stand some of the occurs that is happening in the mentor group.
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Sky McGann
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Join date: 9 Nov 2005
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Not that we should need it....
04-13-2006 11:01
From: Usagi Musashi Well i take it seriuos. enought to the point where i can`t stand some of the occurs that is happening in the mentor group. but since everyone's style of teaching is different, I think that we should all respect that and not butt in - unless in IM. Don't get me wrong here. I value assistance. The butt in is in reference to pulling a chopper out of your inventory or doing something flashy that will take the attention of the person I'm teaching and miss out on something. I feel it's very important to give the New Citizen the information on what to expect on the mainland and how to use their SL client. (How to use "Find" or "Gestures" or where "Live Help" is, etc.) Most of you who visit the AR's know that many, many new citizens arrive without that information. Sure it's from bypassing and coming right to the mainland, but I've seen just as many who didn't and they ask, "how do I find a club or a bar here?" and my favorite - "What do I do now?"
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Usagi Musashi
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04-14-2006 08:45
From: Sky McGann but since everyone's style of teaching is different, I think that we should all respect that and not butt in - unless in IM. Don't get me wrong here. I value assistance. The butt in is in reference to pulling a chopper out of your inventory or doing something flashy that will take the attention of the person I'm teaching and miss out on something. I feel it's very important to give the New Citizen the information on what to expect on the mainland and how to use their SL client. (How to use "Find" or "Gestures" or where "Live Help" is, etc.) Most of you who visit the AR's know that many, many new citizens arrive without that information. Sure it's from bypassing and coming right to the mainland, but I've seen just as many who didn't and they ask, "how do I find a club or a bar here?" and my favorite - "What do I do now?" Ok you totally lost me in this one........ok what i getting at here MAYBE is that just showing a flashing image is not enough? Is that what your getting at?. If more then Gestures and find and showing how objects work. Its the interaction between the newbie and mentor.
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Usagi Musashi
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now this is sad
04-14-2006 08:48
Now I need to address a issue that is shocking and shows how disorangized with the wrong types of people getting into the mentor groups .I resently had a chat with Tat about some issues about the lack of control inthe group. Now let me tell you how messed up this mentor group is. I am sitting a relaxing for a change for once and this really rude and new mentor IMs me and insults me tells me a few world that are not allowed in a PG sim in her IM. She totally insulted me because she believes she is so perfect now that she is a mentor. This person has only been inthe game for 3 months and she had the ball to abuse report style im insult me! Now i been in this group for almost a year and seen alot of changes. But this person actions was a sign on how badly organized and stocked withthe wrong type of people inthe group. Mind you, we ahve a a bunch of good people as well but this person really needs to understand that foul wording in a ABUSIVE report type of IM really DOES NOT BELONG IN THE MENTORS! I did file a abuse report on this person with a lower the ave IQ. But really saying abusive words and terms to another mentor is uncalled for!. Ok you say i said things about other mentors, but but i never called tehn foul names to them or otehr things that caused to to send a abuse report on me. If jeska reads the report I with turn purple. which wil not happen because she never relies back in anyform.
I am always nice to newbie mentors/greeters making them feel happy and give them a pat on the back to get them started. But this person just kills the reason why one become a mentor..............ITS THE TITLE......The abuse of it!
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Siobhan Taylor
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Join date: 13 Aug 2003
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04-15-2006 03:14
From: Usagi Musashi But this person just kills the reason why one become a mentor..............ITS THE TITLE......The abuse of it! There's always been an element of that, Usagi. Some people just like power, and though mentors have no real power, what we do have (or at least appear to have) is respect. Even that's being lost though, mainly because the screening process for new mentors is too lax. But then, it always was.
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Usagi Musashi
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04-15-2006 06:20
From: Siobhan Taylor There's always been an element of that, Usagi. Some people just like power, and though mentors have no real power, what we do have (or at least appear to have) is respect. Even that's being lost though, mainly because the screening process for new mentors is too lax. But then, it always was. Its really sad this is such part of the this group. Laxing of groups have been happening this past year. But then again as I recall there is or was a under age person in this group as well. Well that all well and said there you go  . Every day I see the listing of the mentor numbers increase. But what strange is i see no appearance of them. It seems that people get into some groups that are looked at as "MENTOR like quiities" Then the sceening process see this and says OK.... Well...........
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Sky McGann
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Join date: 9 Nov 2005
Posts: 80
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Please Let Me Know
04-25-2006 09:21
From: Katiahnya Muromachi No Mentors have told me that this annoys them, but if it does, just let me know- I'm just trying to help and I don't want to upset any fellow Mentors and drive them away, as we need all the help we can get. (Somewhat off-subject: Am I the only person who completely refrains from using the term "newbie"? I'm not the most politically correct of people, but for some reason I find it the term "newbie" to be condescendingly derogatory.) Please let me know as well. I spend a lot of time at HI and at times (very rarely) there are many Mentors there helping out. I ask that if I butt in, that anyone of you please tell me in IM that you've got it. From here on out, I will do the same. (To your off subject: Since becoming a Mentor, I have been using the term NC's (New Citizens) for the same reason - I find noob/newbie derogatory in nature. I'm finding that others are now using it too. I think it also makes the NC feel more welcome and more of a person rather than a newbie burdon.)
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Sky McGann
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You're not lost, I just needed to make more sense.
04-25-2006 09:37
From: Usagi Musashi Ok you totally lost me in this one........ok what i getting at here MAYBE is that just showing a flashing image is not enough? Is that what your getting at?. If more then Gestures and find and showing how objects work. Its the interaction between the newbie and mentor. My apologies for the confusion. What I mean is this. You're there with a NC, answering their questions. Out of nowhere comes another person/Mentor and they start to pull things out of inventory. (Partycules, Flashy Cars, Heliocopters, etc) This then takes away the attention of your NC and the help you're offering. I don't mind added information from others and will be the first to admit to the NC that I don't have the answer, I won't blow smoke up their rears just to make myself look good. I will seek the answer elsewhere (even in the Group IM - which I've been chastised for -"Does this really need to be sent to the group?" but that's another forum topic) from anyone around. It's not the flashy stuff or the machinery, it's the interuption of what you're teaching by bringing these things out of inventory without notice and without asking if they can interupt.
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Usagi Musashi
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04-25-2006 09:48
From: Sky McGann My apologies for the confusion. What I mean is this. You're there with a NC, answering their questions. Out of nowhere comes another person/Mentor and they start to pull things out of inventory. (Partycules, Flashy Cars, Heliocopters, etc) This then takes away the attention of your NC and the help you're offering. I don't mind added information from others and will be the first to admit to the NC that I don't have the answer, I won't blow smoke up their rears just to make myself look good. I will seek the answer elsewhere (even in the Group IM - which I've been chastised for -"Does this really need to be sent to the group?" but that's another forum topic) from anyone around. It's not the flashy stuff or the machinery, it's the interuption of what you're teaching by bringing these things out of inventory without notice and without asking if they can interupt. These days there is more of police type action we are doing now a days........its not easy at all to be amentor......basics are what makes a mentor good and knowsing how to explain. But what i seeing nowa days are people in the mentor groups insulting playing drama games as well..... This we don`t need. another matter is misinformation be chatted about in the mentors group chats. OMG i though i was goign to drop dead with i saw a mentor "TRY" to explain to another mentor that mentor could not long in. It was wrong answer given that poor person at asked....i was so sad when i saw this incorrect information told that other mentor......so much i Im that person and explain the real reason. gesh why does few have to flash their bla bla egos in the group all the time? actions speak louder then words..... Sorry for the ratting on with this issue but i had to say this.............
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