Linden response to racist incident in Ahern Welcome area

Sounds like some sneaky racist plugs there. Now are you REALLY trying to spank me or are you just using this thread to get out your own racist remarks on the low?

Nope, I am showing you that what you said is no different than those. You just refuse to see it because you seem to think it is fine to comment on white people, apparently that isn't racist but commenting on blacks and Jews would be. Nice try though - diversionary tactics never work well.

Exactly.

The problems of WA griefing and lack of LL support are not limited to racially insensitive incidents. As such, coming up with a viable solution is further thwarted by making unfounded accusations about the motivations behind LL inaction. Muddying the discussion with more he said/she said squabling just ephasises the reason these situations wil not be satisfactorily resolved by residents. Thanks for that.

And your reverse phsycology tactics do? If you were so concerned about my intentions for my post and wanted to try to understand why I made that comment, you could have very well IM'ed me, sent me a PM, or emailed me being that you have my personal email address. But that's not your intention. Your intention is to publicly defend LL (for whatever reason) and to make sure that I am the one who looks racist.

Too bad, it's not going to work. I am not, nor have I ever been racist. I do not appreciate being called such and I would suggest that you do some research before calling me any more names.

No I do not think that the entire staff at LL is racist. I have no way of knowing if they are or not. I only know that some experiences I have had with them in the past lead me to speculation.

(I guess I better stop expressing myself so freely before my inventory goes poof or my account balace disappears.) LOL

That was a nice try wasn't it??? ROFL

Did you inform any LL staffers of your experiences?

Either inform us as to what leads you to the speculation or stop bringing it up, please.

He said sahe said? Where did you get that? No one said anyone SAID anything. And no they won't be satisfactorilly resolved by the residents. But if no one speaks up, then how LL know that there is a problem?...

America had to have how many peace marches and wounded/murdered people to end racial segregation...but only the government could put a stop to it, in the end, correct (No pun intended). Until segregation was outlawed, it was common practice. It takes people SPEAKING UP about a problem to make the governing body take action. Do you think segregation would have been outlawed if no one would have said anything and everyone just accepted it? No. We'd still be using separate bathrooms and our children would still be attending separate school.

It's an expression and I'm referring to the little interpersonal drahma going on here.

The point is that you have turned a discussion about general WA griefing issues into a personal stand against racism, including veiled hints about LL staffers that you will not elaborate on. This issue was only marginally about the type of griefing that occured and only then in the sense that it was more offensive than getting pushed by another avatar.

Potential solutions and discussion has degenerated into utter tripe.

Why are you asking? So this thread can fall further off topic? You are the only one who keeps bringing it up. I brought it up once and have since only responded to yours and Cristiano's threads. How about YOU stop bringing it up.

If you want to know whether or not I spoke with them, perhaps you might try knocking on one of their office doors or tapping on the cubicle wall (whichever it is). Say politely, "Can I speak with you fir a moment?"

Now. Take THAT...twist it around all you want, then smack yourself with it.

You are the only one "triping". I made a comment based on MY feelings and MY experiences. Who the hell are YOU to question MY feelings or MY position on this subject? If you have an opinion about what I said, then fine say it and move on... but for some reason you continue to badger and insult me.

You don't know me so I would suggest that you back the hell off.

Now that being said...I will not respond to your troll-like beckoning with any further responses. I said what I had to say. You said what you had to say...there's no more to say. If you forget and decide to post some more trash comments directed towards, at, or near me, I'll just repost this as a reminder to ya.

Have a great day!

Why the pissing contest? I explained to you why the reason why they do nothing. I'd bet that the Lindens are a mix of white Americans, Indians (from India), and Obviously some Australians (/me points at Torley). But the point you're all missing is THEY DON'T CARE!!! ANYTHING GOES!!! Short of violating IP laws, of course. Because that's about the only thing that could generate a Cease and Desist and shut them down.

Is now all about the money. They have $11 Million USD in venture capital now. That means they now have to answer to someone about the money. All of the Hippy, love each other, crap is gone.

Look at the blotter. Nearly all of those items could cost them money. Sure they throw in one or 2 "Community Standards: Indecency, Mature Content" items here and there. But those are to give them something to say "they're trying" when cornered. Don't do anything to crash a sim or get them sued and you'll be okay.

At least they haven't yet come out and told us point blank to leave them alone they have a business to run. YET.

But, I want the last word!

I have not been anywhere as hostile as you have. I ask whether you told LL since that might help to correct the problem. If it isn't ingrained in their culture, they would probably like to know. Nothing would please me more than not hearing about it in this thread.

I guess if trying to steer the issue of generalized WA griefing is trolling, so be it.

I realize that my posting is obtuse at times, but I don't feel like you got the tone of my missives here at all.

Spork, I don't know that LL doesn't care at all. Seems like maybe that is so. Maybe they are understaffed. Maybe they have some rogue, crappy employees asleep at the wheel. Maybe the KKK griefer was a FIC.

EDIT: Unchecked griefing of the WA will very assuredly cost LL some cash.

Reminder #1

Sorry MadamG if people have derailed the subject and are jumping on you, however I can easily see how your messages could come across as easily misconstrued. When one reads this:


The first assumption that likely pops into someone's head is you believe that LL's lack of immediate action in this matter is due to the fact that they don't care, and they don't care because they're all white.

My apologies for coming to that assumption, but you have to understand that assumptions are a part of our everyday life, and we don't last long in the gene pool or at our jobs if we don't excercise logical assumptions. If you leave room for assumptions in your speech, people are going to naturally assume what they believe you are trying to convey. Another case in point would be when you said:


You are implying (albeit accidentally) to others that there are people in LL who are racist.. To illustrate the point, compare these two sentences.

A) "No, I do not think Mexicans are lazy."
B) "No, I do not think all Mexicans are lazy."

When someone hears statement A), the though being conveyed is pretty clear cut. However, when they hear B), they will immediately assume you are implying, "While not every Mexican is lazy, some of them are."

This thread is no different from the Rodney King beating, or any of those other racially motivated beatings that took place prior. I will not say anything else for fear of being beaten to death with all of your forum night sticks.

A warning to the rest of you. Do not voice your opinion in these forums. You may be tarred, feathered, beaten and possibly banned all in the same day by one or several individuals who may or may not be alts resurfacing to keep the beating going.

You have been warned..

LOL

MadamG-

Go re-read your original post. The insinuations are rank.

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Racism is still racism, even when reversed.

Quit trying to imply that I am somehow racist. Since when did wondering if someone else was racist make the person who wonderes it a "racist"? Give it a rest already! Your obvious, trollish attempts to twist my words around are "rank". Your night stick is small and ineffective.

The aroma of alts fill the air.

Nothing really needs to be said about this, it says it all.

Yeah, Jopsy, Katiahnya , Lordfly, Gabe and I are all one person - I am proud to be in such company- if that makes it easier for you to think more than one person couldn't find what you said stupid, then go with that. No one has twisted your words - you actually keep repeating the same thing in various forms. Here you are backtracking and saying that by wondering if a person is racist it makes you racist - you didn't wonder about an individual - you wondered about a group of people that you assume are white because they wouldn't help.

It wouldn't have mattered though even if you were just wondering about one person. Making that assumption based solely on their race again IS RACISM. If the night stick is so small, what are you getting so worked up about this? - certainly evoking Rodney King is a bit over the top, even for forum drama.

Oh Cristiano, I wasn't talkin about YOU! K? Feel better? But I see you picked up your night stick again. "Ouch!"

I am not getting worked up either, but I will not let ignorant folks who have no idea of what they are talking about continue to talk trash about me either. If I have to continnue to defend myself to the "individual" who continues to FLAME me, then I will do so.

So if this is my position on the matter and you don't farkin like it, then say so and move along and flame someone else. I don't like everything that YOU have to say on the forums either, but you don't see me making a post after everyone of YOUR posts do you? How would you like that?

It would not surprise me:


Sorry, couldn't resist.

Ooh! I'm the troll with the purple hair! The rest of you.. err.. me can fight over the other colors.

Racism and Race in itself go way beyond skin color though!

A person I referred to SL made the automatic assumption (for example) that because my avatars SKIN was a darker hue that I was portraying myself as african american. They even stated this to persons in SL and RL and YES, it pissed me off not becuase they were essentially making me the equivalent of any race, but they were insisting on defining who I was based on a 'skin' color, when only I will decide what and who I am in SL or RL.

There is much more to being a race or ethnicity than a skin color and I would think that people realize this.

the injsutice served to us anywhere is in assumptions.

so the 'racist' if they want to be as such can quite frankly piss off imo they are not a part of MY SL.

LL has a big order to fill .

All right. No twisting, I'll try to speak as plainly as possible:

Using a public forum to "wonder if someone is a racist" is an open invitation for a lot of angry critism, especially when you use lame hypthetical conjecture to back it up.

Call it whatever you want if that makes you feel better... but it still sounds like a reverse discrimination smear tactic to me.

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You left me out of the pic... I'm the one with green hair.