Crippling lag of unknown origin since 1.6 update

Every since 1.6 last night, I have been randomly crippled for 10+ minutes at a time by an unexplained issue.

According to the ctrl+shift+2 debug screen, it seems to be huge, spiking jumps in network idle... But whatever its doing, it basicly freezes my system until it passes. IT comes in spurts every few seconds, basicly continuously. Eventually it went away the first time, I've not stayed logged in as long as it took that time though, so I dont know if it always does.

This is on the exact same system and net connection as before, mind you. I've never had this problem, ever. It is not a problem on my end.

I've talked with others who have experienced this too, but it does not seem to be universal... Several others had no idea what I'm talking about.

I want to stress that this is not 'just' lag. I could deal with 'just' lag. I'm used to playing this game on a crappy laptop and the most god-awful coffee-shop wifi setups when I'm traveling. While this, whatever 'this' is, is happening the game is absolutely unplayable. I might as well not be logged in at all it's so bad. It's not even useful for chat, hardly, because I don't see the screen refresh often while I'm typing... It's like using an old terminal that didn't have local echo enabled. :/

Attached are a couple ' o screenshots to show what I'm talking about.

I've experienced this too, along with spiked and sustained lag of the following kinds:

-UpdateGeom (still hasn't gone away since I first began getting it in 1.5.x)
-AgentMisc (constant full bars, a little skip, and then more of them)
-Process Messages (seems to happen after you're on SL for awhile and chatting a lot, with each line of Entered text it'll stutter and make a BIG ORANGE LAG SPIKE OF DOOM )
-Process Messages + Callbacks combo (investigating this one further)

Your lag bears some similarity to the UpdateGeom precedent:

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Ditto. I notice it's worst whan I turn to face something I've already loaded but haven't faced in a while (30+ seconds), and BAM, molases.

I am having the exact same problem - after about 5 minutes in Mavericks, I will all of the sudden get the lag of doom that drops everything sub 1 FPS and I cannot move - the idle goes through the roof. The only thing that corrects it is relogging. It happened to me both times I was in SL last night - I gave up on trying to relog.

I made a screen shot of the stats - I noticed that the Ping Sim/User spiked from 140 to 35959 - after I took the screen shot it spiked even higher to 49000 in Mavericks. I was signed in for less than 5 minutes when this happened.

I hate to state the obvious, but are we sure this isn't related to loading movie URLs by plot? It's very possible that, even though you have the streaming media content "disabled," the URL is still being handed off to your machine - which would account for the crippling lag. This is, of course, just a hypothesis.

Anyway, for those of us that experienced 1.6, it's very common to have the viewer spike in this way when a new URL is started up - but then, it still needs to be concensual. Since I don't see the little "play" button in your viewer there, and it looks to be in the middle of nowhere, I can easily be incorrect.

Additionally, for those of you having problems, what's your connection speed? That may be a factor.

Another thing I've noticed is the viewer does far more frequent refreshes of cached assets - my skin texture last night reloaded several times in the viewer. This may also be the cause.

Absolutely 100% positive it isn't at all related in any way to media loading. It happens wherever I am... sandbox, my land (Which normally has no media set, that was just a test), other peoples non-media-enabled land, whatever.

My connection is a 1.5 meg cable connection, which has always been more than sufficient in the past. If it's not now, that's awfuly poor network coding. I refuse to believe any company could be THAT stupid as to make a 1.5 meg connection obsolete.

As for this being reloading cached stuff... nuh-uh. If thats what this is, its some insane bug. But that wouldn't explain the spikes in network activity that the debug screen shows. This happens for 10, 15, 20 minutes at a time before it subsides. Then it's just gone, and I can do whatever else I want just fine. Until I crash and have to relog, then the whole process repeats.

Hmmm... this is all really strange. I may have to concede my earlier hypotheses to some testing in the debug menu later, to see if I can reproduce this problem with my client. Assuming your connection and throughput were fine, which I would count on, this rules out my thoughts that the lower connection speeds were affected.

I'd still be willing to bet, however, that this is in some way related to the new netcode put in place to handle more rapid streaming. Where the problem lies, however, still remains to be rooted out.

Probably. My gut feeling is its somehow related to the inventory streaming thing. But I have no proof of that whatsoever.

Post wars continues.

Unfortunately, I won't have a chance to test the problem until later. Fortunately I have two boxes to test with (my laptop and my desk), so I'll try to see if I can rule out certain factors later.

At this point, it's all conjecture for my piece.

Was at the spa and had only 3 persons in the whole sim, but the Sim FPS was in the 40s! Also, as was mentioned earlier in the thread, it seems to freeze up when i turn. movement is key. I make the wrong move and I freeze, then eventually the window says program not responding at the top, and I have to quit (sometimes as many as three times before it actually quits) and relog.

Shortly after getting onto 1.6 for the first time, My FPS was also jumping from normal to 5-6 and back, spending 1/4 or so of it's time in the 5-6 range. After a while it went away, and I never had a repeat of the occurance.

My guess is that it was related to the inventory conversions that 1.6 had to do once, and that once you have weathered the storm from beginign to end, it won't happen agian. Reloging may start the process over, so it might be best to wait for it to end before logging back in again.

...But then, I haven't been able to get in again today yet, so this is just speculation. But it's something for everyone to test.

I have been experiencing this as well. *sigh*

I had what I called "lag spikes" pre-1.6 as well... BUT.. when those would hit, they would usually get the majority (usually everyone) in the area. They weren't as severe either, I don't believe.

As of last night and the new version, the "lag spikes" seem to have mutated and gone evil tho. Dang!

I was at one place (no video) and was the only person experiencing them. The land owner and I were in IM while he was kinda trying to figure out if something was going on unseen. First I removed all scripted objects. No help. He asked others to remove theirs - assuming there was some evil wayward script out there that wasn't quite compatible with the update. No help. We never did make any progress at all. But, boy, do I ever appreciate his attempts to help!

A few hours later, I was at another event and sure enough... someone there was experiencing the exact same situation with the lag spikes. And, yet again, they were the ONLY person with the issue... Amazingly enough, I had NO LAG and no issues.

This made me feel better.. as I was a wee bit paranoid about my system here. Altho I feel it is pretty top of the line.. well.. I didn't relish making upgrades that I didn't exactly feel I needed just to make SL run well. But, goodness.. it sure does make the "lag spikes" more than a bit confusing!

Hopefully we will get the nod from the Lindens on what is happening. Perhaps we will be told to contact a Linden to run out and look around when we experience it until it can be narrowed down. *shrug*

thats so odd, i know several have this, but i havnt gotten it yet once, i know i will eventually tho, since now i cursed myself

Are you guys using : Play streaming music/media ? , mine never on, but now since i cant see the music url anymore i guess i must -.-

When I first open my objects folder I go from about 20fps to 1 or below..... For several minutes. As with my texture folder....

Well, I spent a good long time in SL both on my laptop and my desktop this evening, and did not experience the problems mentioned - or if I did, it happened once and a TP rescued me. I think that was just standard sandbox lag, however.

Test machines:

Desktop -
1.7 ghz P4
512 MB RAM
Radeon 9600 Pro 128 MB
Win XP
Directx 9.0c

Laptop:
2.1 ghz Athlon XP 2800+
446 MB RAM
Radeon Mobile IGP 320M (Not on the "supported" SL card list)
Win XP
Directx 9.0c

Both are running somewhat older video drivers and a Cable connection.

I'm having the same problem....Recently happened to me just as i started going through my inventory searching for textures.

At first it laggggggggssss for like 30 seconds unable to move at all grrrr...Then after for a long time lags in small clumps ....This went on for about 10 minutes (as you described.) SOOO difficult to build while it does this.

Just as the giant 30 second lag began, I hit ctrl-shift-2: clumps of the light blue bars (as shown in your pics) showed up very frequently. Then, every small lag I experienced after showed about 2 to 3 in a row.

This is actually much WORSE than update geom lag.....

Thanks for the screenshots - we should be able to track this down.

Woot!

The first snapshot is like what happens to me.
but more often.
I'll get lag spikes that are reguraly spaced and effect client FPS.

I was experiencing this, then I realised my pref's had all gone back to max, which was indeed crippling me, I lowered some of them again, and BOOM no more lag

Although opening my inventory is a crippler till I close it again

I have noticed that this problem seems to somehow involve the inventory window - I was signed in for awhile with no lag, then as soon as I opened my inventory, the sim ping fps went up to 40,000 again and stayed up for several minutes. It eventually cleared. Nearly every time this has occured, it has occured after working with inventory in some way.

Yes.

This is exactly my experience, to the letter.

Ok, this pretty much confirms that this is somehow related to the inventory changes.

Myself, I'd rather have a five minute login wait than a 10 minute period that I may as well go get a sammich.

At least Phil says it can be fixed! Yay!

I just experienced this again, and got a snap.
Both times I was creating things....though this time my inventory was not open. And alot of "AgentMisc" is showing up this time, along with NetworkIdle.