Illegal activity banning

those doods need to chiiiiiillll...

It is also illegal to own a killer whale in California without a license.

I tried to comply with the law, by "freeing willy" - leaving him behind in a linden owned ocean area, but he was returned to me.

I tried to go to Amsterdam and sell (or trade) him, but I was beaten and shang-hai'd - forced to work aboard a pirate ship somewhere off the mainland.

Its been several weeks now. I think I have an infected wound and possibly scurvy. Yesterday I devised a plan whereupon I would open my search window and TP away from this life of slavery.

Alas, the SEARCH function is down and TPs non-functional.

So here I am - broken and wasted - with a damn illegal whale in my pocket. I suppose this is the thanks I get for trying to be a law-abiding citizen.

Hey, sailor, is that a whale in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?


(Sorry, I could never resist a straight line like that one!)

the ship is sinking where is the captain?

If all the play money we made were kept inside this virtual world there wouldn't be any issues.
Go back to hard basics where you earn your money the old fashion way by selling goods and services to be the king of the money pile that way. But that's not possible.

Perfectly stated! I can't believe someone even attempted to compare sl drugs to rl drugs or sl drugs to gambling. All these new threads of people comparing anything and everything to gambling are getting ridiculous.

There's something odd hovering over this issue.

You don't NEED to buy Lindens.
You CHOOSE to buy Lindens.
They are GIVEN to you for free every week!
You can get them from sitting in chairs, or pull them out of trees!

There is no equivalent to this in "real world" gambling.

Also, they don't inherently have any real-world value. They are NOT LEGAL TENDER.

Any perceived value is based on the willingness of another party to purchase them with their own legal tender. This is not guaranteed nor implied by Linden Labs or anyone else.

I'm still searching for the salient point put forth by this fact,
but its undeniable that a distinction exists.

From a mental and psychological point of view, every questionable activity we perform on SecondLife does affect and alter us mentally in some form or fashion.

Smoking virtual drugs or having virtual sex on SL, of course is not physically real BUT can you guarantee that any of these activities do -not- negatively affect, manipulate, desensitize or alter your perceptions which are then taken out into the real world and affect your decisions/choices/mannerisms there? Probably not.

Now with that said, I am in NO WAY wishing any/all of these activities plucked away from anyone as we are consenting mature adults (well hopefully most of us are) choosing to have fun (as we individually choose) on SL. I am merely pointing out that just because something is not physically real, does not make it any less "bad" (than something else) so to speak.

I'll get to the point though. For anyone that enjoys knocking on anyone that likes to gamble/game and are glad it's going/gone, some news for ya. You got vices, bad habits and you perform activities that aren't exactly saintly/good too.

It's called being imperfect and being human.

There absolutely is an equivalent. Many casinos have "free" offers.



Real-world value != legal tender. A diamond has RL value, but is not legal tender. A ham sandwich has RL value, but is not legal tender.

Poker chips have RL value, but are not legal tender.



Actually, it very much is implied by LL. In so many ways it isn't funny, because they basically set themselves up for being extra-vulnerable to this exactly because of how many ways the imply it.

But you're wrong. There isn't a less blunt way to say that. You're wrong. There's absolutely nothing like the connection are you are trying to imply exists here. Reading a book on drugs could change your opinion of drugs too, but that doesn't mean the book is "drugs".



This is not, and never was, about morality.

Besides, gambling is far more stupid than it is immoral. If people who cant do math want to pay a much higher tax bracket than me, so be it.

And I say YOU are wrong. If you try to compare your analogy of reading a book to say... engaging in sexual intimate-like activities with another person or [numerous other similar activities] that is simply, NOT of the same caliber.



I simply brought up some possible repercussions and possibilities which was targeted moreso towards the individuals that wanted to shout out their "holier than thou" attitudes towards those of us that enjoy gaming. Call it "Food for Thought" if you will.

Let me make something perfectly clear though. I AM NOT here to be the Morality Police. I could care less if you want to do [insert crazy activity here], if that's how YOU have fun and everyone involved is consenting to it... HAVE FUN WITH IT. I just expect the same consideration for what I ENJOY.



Simply your opinion. There are plenty of things I've seen people do that I think is FAR MORE stupid than gaming/gambling but that's irrelevant and only MY opinion.

There's things I enjoy and there's things you enjoy doing on SL correct? If [this] is stupid to you? Don't do it. I'll do the same, however, when you start telling ME what I can and can not do then that is where I have a problem and I'm sure you'd have the same problem if it was done to you.

Also, don't bother bringing up the "People are gonna tell you what to do, that's life.. Get over it" argument. It's really old, tiring and a dead horse beaten into the ground.

Besides, SL is becoming more and more like Real Life and less and less like a FANTASY WORLD anyways so let's just go ahead and apply all of the real world problems, laws, etc here and see how much fun you have on SL.

I thought SL was for us to ESCAPE REALITY and HAVE FUN! Boy, was I wrong!

But it is, actually. Sex, drugs, whatever, aren't illegal in the real world because of how they might make you think. There are normally health or societal issues that simply don't exist in "simulated" recreations of the same thing.




But it's not my opinion. It's statistically proven, mathematically sound, verifiable fact. Casino games aren't something you can defeat with a cheery disposition and a plucky attitude. They are designed from the ground up to take in more money than they pay out. It's as simple as that.

Now see, you're referring to the legalities of said questionable things. I never specified anything I said to the actual legalities of said activities. Whole 'nother ballgame that is.



Actually, that would depend on what specific game(s) you are referring to and what specific game(s) I am referring to but honestly it doesn't really matter because -ALL- gaming/wagering is banned (or might as well say it is because the New Policy is so confusing and vague that many people are afraid to do anything of this nature in risk of getting into trouble) so this debate isn't very productive to the matter at hand anyways.

Actually, no, I'm not. I'm simply saying that the reason they aren't illegal kind of defeats your arguement.




No, not so much. Any wagering type game is based on the premise that someone - other than the people playing - profits from them. The sole exception being a game strictly between two or more people with no outside involvement whatsoever, and those are damn rare in SL.

Actually, I used to make a pretty decent amount of L$ on gaming. Some casino owners seemed to just be giving it away, and had their games set to high pay outs. I assume that they wanted to generate high traffic, and winners stay and play and come back again.

Perhaps they enjoyed "owning" a casino more than profitting financially. Lots of people dump lots of real dollars in SL for the feling of ownership or being somebody important.

Actually, it is a little more complex than that, as that is still illegal under most anti-gambling statutes.

Basically, what is done amounts to this:

1) Casino sets up games which pay out in "valueless" products that they buy from Supplier.
2) Casino players "win" lots of these items.
3) The Casino doesn't buy them back, specifically, because that would mean that they are still operating an illegal gambling operation, as the items would not be truly valueless. The items, however, have identification marks on them, letting the customers know who will buy them back.
4) Players go to the Supplier and sell their "valueless" items for cash.
5) Supplier recycles the items by selling them back to one or more Casinos.

In some cases, the selling supplier and the buying supplier are different entities, and they may go through several steps to recycle the items back to the Casinos, in order to hide or "launder" the money going through the process.

Trouble is, that there are other statutes which attack the loophole in various ways. The RICO act usually eventually gets the ones who aren't smart enough to outfox the authorities.

Amazing to what lengths people will go for their vice "fix" or to provide it to others.

jesus chirst people go and get a real life dumb ass.

drugs in second life make you walk funny big deal it's second life. you will use it for a day get a laugh and throw it away after a day. jesus.

Yeah, because alchohol isn't a drug. And it's totally not dangerous or addictive or anything.

we are talking about second life here not real life

omg, are we warming up two years old threads now?

You haven't heard about the Seclimine scandal in SL?

You haven't heard about the Seclimine scandal in SL?
Because hemp threatened Hearst's investments in timberland for paper making. Doesn't everyone know that?

I have an inworld store where I sell glasses for avatars. They're not prescription and don't improve your avatar's vision. I wonder if I can be sued for fraud and medical malpractice. (^_^)y

yes... and i have a pair and i WOULD sue if i thought i could get enough $$$ for it! just be glad you don't serve coffee... that's where the BIG money is...

/me hides the carafe... (<.< .... (>.> .... (^_^)