Illegal activity banning

Now since people are talking about SL banning people for violations of US laws i would like to bring up another issue

DRUG DEALERS

are they to be banned as well?

drugs are bad mmk

another issue in the red is copyright infringement of unauthorized uses of company names and various product like booze and such...what will you do after lawsuit after lawsuit appear??

along with gambling these issues will cause a fall in clients and the funds supplying this game will dwindle to a trickle

i am sorry to say to the creators of secondlife ... you have broken various laws in the past and present...why you did not think of this in the past is beyond me

we are here to live our dreams as advertised on your site... or are we mislead to believe it

you have lawyers... you have the money to buy the best... use them to save yours and our game or we all lose

WTF are you talking about? What drug dealers are you referring to?

go to amsterdam lol its all over too look for it

Heres a perfectly legal idea under their policy--a hi-lo table not relying on chance or number generation to determine a winner as some have suggested, with payouts being trophies and trinkets as "prizes"-- no real world value but mysteriously the owner is willing to buy them back---oldest casino trick in the book to get around reported gambling winnings
Someone said this a while back (paraphrasing):


First Age play (they leave)- Check!
Then gaming (they leave) Check!
Then escorts (they and thier customers leave)
All other broadly offensive activities (all those avs leave)

Who is left? The builders and artists but no one to sell to and they leave to.

Im glad I finally sold my land, should have known from the way they handled real estate, an economy was way beyond their comprehension-- only had to take a L$15000 loss, guess that doesn't take luck or skill

The US Government frowns on independent economys being run inside its borders-- for example, California can you say() Class Action Lawsuit?

thx dave ...im glad someone some of you see how this ball is rolling..it will get bigger and bigger ..i posted this to say my bit..if sl reads it i hope they understand and fight for us..not to succum to the pressures of thug governments and petty lawsuits tryin to destroy the hard work they have done... and the hard work we have done

thx again dave

While I agree with most of it LL does not read these forums they nixed them to hide the disgruntled *Customers* to lul the more desireable corporate clients into turning this into a commercial world. The only thing they even address slightly is that usless blog crap. All that is here now is a mod or two that when they bother to log on just moves posts around if they think it's in the wrong spot. You will only find a few people that can't let go of the forums and a few like me that drop in from time to time to see whats being chatted.

Are these people selling real world drugs to SL users? If they are, then of course they should be banned.

If they are not selling real world drugs, that real people can swallow/snort/smoke/whatever, they are doing nothing illegal.

Gambling is risking real money (don't even talk about the bull that $L aren't real, they pay for them, they are real). That's now illegal on the internet in the US, so it's illegal here.

Do you really think that selling something that makes your POV on a computer screen go wacky is illegal? If so, what are you smoking that messes up your perception this much?

people use real money for the sl drugs to the drug dealers and proccessed into real money...same thing as the gambling...

thx for your input

No, it is not the same thing as the gambling.

In gambling you are taking a chance on losing your money. When buying "drugs" in SL you are buying an item, and it is NO different than buying a hat.

Gamblin is illegal on the inernet in the US now. SL is based in the US, and must follow the laws here or be shut down.

Buying virtual hats on the internet is not illegal. Buying totally virtual "drugs" on the internet is not illegal.

Can you possibly get it that these are NOT actually drugs they are buying?

SL has been forced to ban gambling, because it is illegal. They are not arbitrarily limiting your freedom, they are following the LAW.

*beats his head against a brick wall*

DRUGS IN SECOND LIFE = NOT REAL DRUGS

GAMBLING IN SECOND LIFE = REAL GAMBLING

WHAT THE HECK IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS?




And this stuff IS gone after, but a quirk of the copyright laws leaves it up to the copyright holder to go after infringements.




You vastly over-estimate the impact of gambling.



Actually, without fail, almost any "big name" content-creator in SL is doing so quite legally. The people who have to rip off the graphics of Coke cans and such rarely amount to a hill of beans.

Here. We go. Again.

Drugs in Second Life. Not real. Don't believe me? Drive down to the ghetto and get yourself smacked up. Woah. See the difference?

Copyright infringement here? The original creator can issue a DMCA and get it dealt with. It happens all the time. That is the normal procedure on the WWW too.

Gambling? People use their credit cards to buy Lindens to place a wager on a game of chance. If they win game of chance, they might cash out. Legal grey area is glaringly obvious. Therefore not surprising that LL acted on it.

You'd know all this if you'd read the forums before posting.

OK explain to me how you can even TAKE drugs in SL? That is lost on me.

She's gone quiet, but don't worry, I can explain! Only if you drop some LSD in RL first though. My explanation will make sense afterwards, I promise.

/me is proud to admit she never has touched anything other than alcohol in her entire life. And is not starting now.

This ruins my plans.

Think up another plan.

There's a strategy in the IT market, specifically internet corporations and conglomerates looking for buyers, to ignore (or at least spend very little resources on) most "test" legalities---the laws that may or may not be being broken by the entity and/or its customers, and have yet to be tested in court.

In expensively decorated conference rooms in big cities all over the United States, some have taken to calling this activity (or lack thereof) "tubing" or "youtubing", as it is precisely what youtube did regarding potential copyright infringement lawsuits. They simply stalled until they were bought by a fish big enough to afford them.

I would not be surprised at all if this is what LL is doing---and in fact, it's what they SHOULD be doing, by all rights.

I have this GA pixelplacer whose fitness function operates through a NN trained to recognize disorientation of a person on a webcam. So the cam watches you the NN determins if you're more or less disoriented and the GA changes the pixels on the screen accordingly


the above is fiction ( for now)

/hands her my pixelized bong.

Just attach it to your mouth.

Heh, so you're "proud" that you take the drug called alcohol? Strange. Other than the fact that Alcohol is legal, and others are not, alcohol is just as much a drug as any other. Why, for example, do you think marijuana is illegal? Because it's addictive? Because it's bad for your health??? Alcohol is both of those. The reason marijuana is illegal is because there's medical uses for it, and the drug companies cannot patent it, and sell it at outragous prices, and, they have our government in their pockets, who keep it illegal. It totally amazes me how people find alcohol acceptable just because it's legal.

Lighten up, Johan.

Light one up, Johan


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wow

Marajuana is illegal becuase at the time they started regulating drugs -

Alcohol was the typical white person's drug of choice.

Black People and some Imigrants used Marajauna. Largely becuase it was easy to grow where they lived (rual areas)

And Chinese people used Opium.

The big drug companies were SMALL drug companies at the time - and didnt have big fat proffits from presciption drugs and giant congressinal lobbies.

Now ... It may be the reason Marajuana remains illegal is drug companies , thats harder to say.

Its technically not automatically illegal, instead the tax to produce it is regualted to an obscenely huge amount. An amount impossible to pay .. and thus all Marajuana is illegal becuase no one payed the excise tax.

Thats becuase its controlled via Congress's powers to regulate commerce.

And you misread what Brenda said - she didnt say she was proud she drank. She only said she was proud to say she has only drank.

There is a considerable difference.

Oh for Christ's Sake people! It was a throwaway joke. It wasn't meant to start a sociology debate!