Sexual Animations banned in future?

I don't think they would ever get rid of virtual sex even if they could get rid of the animations (which would be tough cause then they'd have to browse every freebie store there ever was...). A lot of people would just resort to chat or - now that we have it - voice. Plus, they could never regulate what people do in their own private homes...

its like the most private news reporting. i watch it since week 16 now (there is a brave new tv at my land where anyone can watch it; also anyone can grab a tv for free) and i dont think they lie.

Well if they ever ban advertizing for Sex animations - well know a sex ban is in the future.

Since that LL SOP.

It would be impossible. You could ban advertising sales of sex toys and poseballs, close Public sex clubs, but unless LL is going to go through everyones inventory, monitor every conversation, and spy into everyones bedrooms they aren't going to be able to stop it.

Big Brother Dan is watching you

/me raises her shirt and gives a one finger salute.

I agree—this whole, “Will they ban this?” thread excitement is a bit out of control. I mean, if you guys reeeeally want to keep making up ban-threads for entertainment…fine, but I think we should lay off the “ban” topics until something IS banned, or is being discussed for ban.

It isn't a matter of lying or telling the truth, it's a question of how information is presented, and whether or not that information is substantial.

I would just like to know specifically what was said in the segment you watched. Are they reporting that Linden Labs has some plans to ban sexual animations, or was it the opinion of someone that such a move might occur?

It would be nice to ban everything that was offensive to someone somewhere. We'd all be living in straight-jackets (assuming straight-jackets weren't banned).

There are practical considerations to anything that is banned. The two main ones that one might expect Linden Labs to consider are (a) how does this affect costs and (b) how does this affect profits?

If Linden Labs can't afford to hire staff to provide customer support, they cannot afford to hire staff to regularly comb the grid to track down sex animations. On the other hand, and this is a guess without specific numbers, the customer base that uses Second Life primarily as a virtual sex playground is quite significant, and loss of those customers would entail a large loss of revenue.

If there were the possibility that Linden Labs could get involved in criminal prosecution or civil lawsuit over the availability of sexual animations, then the cost-side of the equation would need update. With the gambling ban, Linden Labs had the imminent reality of the FBI breathing down their necks. With the simulated-sex-with-children ban, even though Linden Labs may not have been in direct legal danger from German authorities, the German customer base is too large for Linden Labs to just thumb its corporate nose at Germany. There is a completely different cost calculation if the legal rumblings are coming from Liechtenstein, for example, instead of Germany. The customers who were in Second Life primarily to participate in simulated-sex-with-children probably weren't a huge percentage of the overall Second Life customer base, though again I'm guessing without numbers. Though a larger percentage of the customer base opposed the simulated-sex-with-children ban on principle, these customers probably weren't dropping their accounts in solidarity with the simulators-of-sex-with-children.

has nothing to do with the thread itself, should be deleted as spam

This has been discussed many times before, and is simply not true. See, for example, http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/dltr/articles/2002dltr0019.html .

Quick summary:

The Child Pornography Prevention Act of 1996 banned virtual child pornography. In 2002, the Supreme Court found this ban to be too broad, and knocked it down. The Protect Act of 2003 tries to fix the problem, by limiting it to virtual depictions which are indistinguishable from real life - something that clearly doesn't apply to SL.

It also applies to obscene depictions. The legal definition of obscenity requires applying community standards in a subjective way. This means that while some depictions of underage sex in SL could be found to be obscene and hence illegal, others might not be, and hence would be legal in the US.

Meh! Law is a fubared as SL. Missed the takedown in 2002.

I still, classify it under the "common sense" edict. Child porn is wrong. The only people that raised a voice on that ban were the ones wanting LL to grow a brainstem and define "ageplay" as pediphile acts, not just having a child avatar. No one here advocated it's return. Why? Because everyone knows it's wrong.

I still wouldn't call it a base for a precident for LL policy since that policy was in place from the very begining of SL. LL only re-affirmed it due to idiots going "ZOMG!!! There's ageplay in SL!!!" and those idiots going to news media and courts instead of just ARing it and watching as LL removed it (as they always do). Concidering the news crews that reported it are the ones that were doing it, you'll notice that heat died down really really really quickly. LL only made a public announcement to combat the PR attack. LL's poor wording on that announcment is what led to all the upraor in SL.







*quietly snaps pictures for......ummm....I'll come up with a reason later ^.^*

~Jessy

Get a hold of Chris. He's been trying to get a look at them for a while now. Just split what you get with me.

There isn't an option for my vote! I don'tmind the sex animations being there, they probably enhance the SL experience for a lot of people. I haven't indulged for many months, tho' I did try out the animations at one notorious venue in my early days purely in the pursuit of social/virtual research!

Where's the "I don't care about them but don't see a need to ban them" answer? This poll implies that if you're not for it you're against it.

Can't I just not give a shit in peace?

/me knew there was a reason for coming here. PENGUIN!!!

I think that if secondlife is created by its users, then we should be free to express ourselves anyway we please, since we are the ones creating everything. Anyone that is offended by the sexual content should not use the site then, because that is not fair to the rest of us who wish to have these things. IMVU did the same thing just because teens were accessing the sexual content so they ruined it for all of us adults who enjoy the content.

DO NOT ban animations, I enjoy them and shoudl have free will to enjoy them for as long as I please.

Give me a freakin' break. It has a LOT to do with the thread. And why is it ME that people flame when there is a tons of crap posted everywhere.

Sheesh, you guys...never cease to amaze me.

If you look earlier up in this thread, there is someone that says the same thing I did...why doesn’t HE get your “this is spam” comment?

Why do you guys love to troll so much?

You think it's bad now, just wait till they take away our sex balls. But I have to agree, you were sandbagged on that one.

why not chosse better options for polls?
yes, ban them
no, dont ban them

instead we have
yes ban them ban everything
dont ban them cos im a perv

wtf cant anyone post a decent poll around here?

But its not some conspiracy heck who is this Abraham guy?

They're not going to ban sexual animations. The worst that will happen is that vendors of such animations are only going to be able to sell their wares on id verified parcels.

Well I'm glad those animations I have are not sexual. They are exercise animations with very strange names.

btw...where is this "discussion" growing up at? Is it out of the paranoia that is common among many of the forum and blog-faring SL population or is someone legitimate discussing it?

Because if LL isn't discussing it then there is not going to be a ban.

Also, keep in mind Lindens have alts and I know for a fact there are a few that partake in that industry in various ways!

Umm not to sure I agree this time Jess ... for one thing, they are operating out of Brighton too now.

To draw a parallel with my workplace (US/UK) we have to abide by laws in both places.