Sexual Animations banned in future?

Like i just seen in Life4U-Television http://www.lifeforyou.tv/eng/index.php there is a new discussion growing up about Sexual Animations Ban.

Whats going on? and..how do you think about it?

*edited: wrote wrongly SecondLife4U, its called Life4U *redness*

I'm guessing that would slow the new member numbers

Is online sex being banned in any countries? The depiction of online sex between two adults? The internet is for porn as they say... and that's pictures and videos of real people. So..... when porn gets removed from the internet I suppose we'll have to start worrying.

You should have known that using the word "member" in a discussion about sex in Second Life was a bad idea...

Broccoli

No offense, but don't we have enough "What about banning this" threads?

Really, Pediphile style ageplay and Gambling were banned because THEY ARE AGAINST RL LAW. Even in a virtual world. So says the law, so must LL obey.

Allt he rest is up to LL and they a) Don't want to remove a revenue source and b) Are not wanting the extra work just to ban things that are NOT agaisnt the law.

(Before someone says "prostitution"; selling of virtual 'sex' is NOT agaisnt the law. It is in RL, but not on the itnernet.)

~Jessy

Who the heck is SecondLife4U?

Hmm, gambling maybe, but I didn't think virtual depictions of child sex were illegal in the US. I thought that was Germany. I thought the child sex thing was more about PR, because the fact they allowed such *depictions* for years beforehand suggests it had nothing to do with the Lab's sense of morality.

But... but... you can exchange recipes and stuff. There's so many wonderful things you can do with the Internet.

Nope. Child porn in all forms (real or depicted, and that "depicted" extends to computer generated images) is agsint US laws.

I'd say the reason for the all out ban was the uproar about it, but LL has always removed it when told about it. LL simply does not police the grid. Too much space, not enough people. But when they find it, they remove it.

~Jessy

i hope they ban the Wallflower Animation too

*grins*

I did..

Ah, I stand corrected. Virtual depictions are illegal where I live, but for some reason I thought that wasn't the case in the US.

I just looked it up and you're right (http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002256----000-.html), "visual depiction" would cover it. Thanks Jessica.

* Wonders if this thought might allso cause the panic we have seen with the ginko situation .....People all running around having sex with anything they can get hold of in a panic state . *

I'm fairly sure that if they took all the porn off the Net, there'd only be
one website left, and it would be called "bring-back-the-porn dot com".
-- Perry Cox, _Scrubs_

i didn't vote on this... I don't really have, need, or want sex animations. However they will not get banned... and here's why:

Linden Lab cannot control animations. Yes, they could ban any sex poseballs (but won't)... and they could ban objects that have a sex animation with them (but won't)..... but the animations alone are something LL cant and wont try to control.

LL only talks of banning something when there is a legal threat or a threat to the company. Kiddie porn.... illegal ... banned....
internet gambling.... illegal... banned

There's no major country that has any quams with simuated virtual avatar sex, so LL has no need to ban it....

Just because one group speaks out about moral implications doesn't mean LL is headed into their offices to discuss banning possibilities.

..... the next thing that will be banned (im assuming) will be inworld banking operations, and stock exchanges. Because they are entirely illegal they will be banned... it's just a matter of time before LL begins getting accused of aiding and abetting. ... that's when things in LL get banned

True, Jessica...but if you think about it, just about everything is against the law
SOMEWHERE. If some repressive country complained that LL was permitting virtual sex and it was against their law, LL could very well decide to ban it. After all, there's precedent.

For any enjoyable thing, there's someone out there that thinks that either
1) you shouldn't have it because it's bad for your health/sanity/morals/immortal soul, or
2) wants to be the one to provide it to you, for a fee, and anyone who's getting it for free should be eliminated.

Sometimes I wish I wasn't part of the human race...human nature can be so depressing.

For 18 and older, in most countries, including the country that matters most (in this case USA), sex is not illegal. So why even make a poll about sex being banned? That doesn't make any sense. People are just being silly now.

I didnt see the part of the website discussing a possible Sex animation ban. It apears just a 3rd party news magazine site - which uses Quicktime clips for stories instead of print. Which makes it much slower to browse.

Perhaps the direct link to the speculation.

On the Offical Blog it has not said Sexual Animations will be banned.

It did suggest howevr that possibly they will have to be on "Adult" flagged land when the new verification is in place.

Unless "Broadly Offensive" is more encompassing than we thought.

Or perhaps some people have an agenda?

Who knows.

the clips are the weekly news about sl from as 3rd party and so independent magazine

Quite frankly, that doesn't matter.

I'm not downing any other country with that, but LL is based in San Fran, CA, USA. Therefore bound to US and CA laws only.

Another country ~can~ prohibit LL from being used in their country if something breaks their laws. At that point, LL can decide wether to change to meet these standards, come to a comprimise, or simply lose that customer base. That is a company choice and one that will ahve to be made on case by case basises.

Following the laws of other countries to continue to run a sucessfull global buisness is one thing. Following the laws of LL's home country and state are another.

LL MUST follow the laws of the US and of CA (and TX and any other state they operate out of now). LL is not required to follow laws of other countries, nor even US states that LL is not a part of. It is good buisness practice to follow those of common sense, and those of the majority.

Following buisness practice, I imagine LL would rather have left gambling in SL. Why? Hey, that's a LOT of money going on there. Casinos pay land tier and gamblers buy L$ to keep playing. LL shutting down gambling hurt them as well, but LL had no choice as it violates the law.

If there is something in SL that is blatently illegal in the country the person is logging in from, then that person is at fault.

Same as if an underage person (<1 creates an account on the MAin Grid using mommy's and daddy's CC information. LL is not at fault at that point. The inattentive parents are.

The only precident set in SL to date, by LL, on the subject of banning practices from SL are those that are illegal, by RL law, within the country and state(s) of which LL resides. To date, no law outside of LL's country and state(s) has impacted any of such decisions.

~Jessy

/me looks at Jessy in awe ...

WHAT SHE SAID!!!!

Plus meh ... who would care unless they can't run with imagination and style in the written word ...

(I can't remember the last time I relied on a poseball for jollies ...)

How DARE you infer that swapping recipes is dull!!!!!! why, next you'll be saying watching paint dry is boring!

(Actually ... I love swapping recipes. Oops. Closet cook has been outed )

Interesting site. Nice production, but my first impression is that it comes off somewhat sensational. Maybe they do good reporting, but it's hard to tell without viewing several episodes, which I don't have time for right now. Can you quote specifically what they said about the subject? If it is just speculation based on no tangible facts, then it isn't news reporting, it's pure speculation.