get it?
People not being able to play with their on-line paper dolls is the same as Anne Frank's not being able to, well, live?
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
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08-12-2007 00:41
no, the people that rat out people for no other reason than 'its the law' are the same kind of people that rat out people for no other reason than 'its the law'.
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Matthew Dowd
Registered User
Join date: 30 Jan 2007
Posts: 1,046
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08-12-2007 01:04
Not that long ago, someone at LL had the bright idea of writing a script to run through the database disabling clearly illegal alts. Unfortunately the criteria used to determining a illegal alts were fatally flawed - not least of all, that a new billing system introduced a month earlier made it impossible to pay for new alts, so quite a few had been created without paying the required fee (even though the person creating them was perfectly willing too). Also the account system didn't allow you to change (or even see) contact related information.
As such this disabled a number of legitimate alts and caused a lot of complaints. Worse it appears the existence of this script wasn't communicated properly within LL, so LL support gave a lot of false information as to why alts were being disabled. I wonder if someone has had another "clever" idea for a script to detect gambling? e.g. if avatar x has just run a script which included a call to llFrand AND avatar x has just paid avatars, a, b, c some money then disable avatars x, a, b, c for further investigation "Oh, its 5:30pm, lets run this script over the weekend and see what its done on Monday..." (I'm not entirely serious about this - I hope) Matthew |
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Sling Trebuchet
Deleted User
Join date: 20 Jan 2007
Posts: 4,548
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08-12-2007 02:03
This thread really confuses me. The poster was talking about getting tossed from SL but many of the responders are talking about parrots? Parrot explanation: You see, it's all about LL treating its users Pretty Poorly. |
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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08-12-2007 02:14
Parrot explanation: You see, it's all about LL treating its users Pretty Poorly. _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
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Usagi Musashi
UM ™®
Join date: 24 Oct 2004
Posts: 6,083
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Is this real?!
08-12-2007 02:23
http://forums.secondcitizen.com/showthread.php?t=17563 Earlier today, a friend of mine was working in SL an ongoing project that had reached the point of needing stress testing before going live. She lined up some testers, and offered to pay them $1000L if they would submit a report after their testing. Nothing unusual - the test went fine, and she paid out $1000L to about 15 individuals who turned in their reports. Without any warning while doing this, she was suddenly knocked off line with a message saying her account had been suspended pending investigation for gambling activities. The recipients also had the same thing happen If i appear slow I am sorry. Can you explain to me how can they suddenly knock this person offline? Meaning were they watching this person?If this is so, this shows you that the lindens with harm anyone they like. If they have done and harm or not. I don`t know all the facts here since i reading it here first. But this is scary stuff..... What i am seeing these days is a world imploding . Because of many factors, but what is worse that are using their powers withouts guidance. I don`t know about you but its not a fun world anymore. if one has to worry about be banned for issues that are so fuzzy as one said here. If i have misunderstood any part of this issue please correct me. But as i read them, big brother as they say is getting more and more stronger. Usagi |
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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08-12-2007 02:34
Is this real? _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
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Rebecca Proudhon
(TM)
Join date: 3 May 2006
Posts: 1,686
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08-12-2007 04:28
How can such a potentially great thing like Second Life become such a mess?Don't answer that. I don't really want to know.
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VooDoo Bamboo
www.voodoodesignsllc.com
Join date: 4 Oct 2006
Posts: 911
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08-12-2007 04:35
The part about this I really love is the fact that the so called staff of this company has time to run around SL chasing gambling ghost but can't lift a figure to go after one of the biggest scams to hit SL with the whole Ginko thing.
I am truely stunned... SL is really going down the crap bowl. It's appeal is really starting to wear off on me. _____________________
VooDoo DESIGNS www.voodoodesignsllc.com
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Yiffy Yaffle
Purple SpiritWolf Mystic
Join date: 22 Oct 2004
Posts: 2,802
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08-12-2007 05:23
Automated suspensions for paying out money!!! That is absurd and unfair..if in fact its true. If this is true why not just remove L$ all together? it would save a lot of people a lot of hassle... :/ Not that i want L$ gone, but if we are going to be banned for spending or getting it it then i see a problem with having it in the first place. _____________________
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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08-12-2007 07:02
They are stuck, between common sense and a beautiful beach. Damn.  |
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Rocketman Raymaker
Registered User
Join date: 4 Feb 2007
Posts: 530
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08-12-2007 07:21
Looks like we need another site just to take care of employee salaries such as this, whether they are one off or reoccurring, a marketplace for wages etc similar to how SLexchange works.
Anyone willing to give it a shot? I'm willing to invest and help out with my time if some else has the skills required to lead a project like this. _____________________
"Proud member of the anti-ginko busy body committee"
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Jessica Elytis
Goddess
Join date: 7 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,783
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08-12-2007 07:34
If this is true, then the programmer who wrote teh script (if it's automated) or the Linden that did it manually needs slapped so hard the dead parrot feels it.
There has to be MILLIONS of transactions a day in SL. Which means there is no possible way a human could track that all (not even if all of LL was doing JUST that one thing). The possible permutations for reasons for L$ transfers is just as mind-boggling and there is absolutely no way LL could program all the critera needed into a "watchdog" program. If LL is trying this, then they get the "OMG You are stoooooooooooPID!" award. I'm going with the hope that this is miscommunication on the story. I am going to hold onto the thought that not even LL can be THIS stupid. ~Jessy _____________________
When your friend does somethign stupid:
Dude, you are a true and good friend, and I love you like the brother that my mom claims she never had, but you are in fact acting like a flaming douche on white toast with a side order of dickknob salsa..maybe you should reconsider this course of action and we go find something else to do. |
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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08-12-2007 08:53
From the OP of the SC thread were I first read about this: "I do know that the story is in fact true or I would not have posted it, as I am putting my name on it and it is my credibility on the line too. The person behind it is a well established person here as well, she asked me to publish it for her so as not to interfere with the resolution of it but to make people aware that it happened and could potentially happen to them. I imagine more details of it will emerge on Monday, since again, LL is an 8-5 M-F only operation for all intents and purposes so nothing else has been able to be resolved on the weekend."
If the story turns out to be false, I apologize to the forum. I thought I should post it as a warning. Figured if I helped one account from getting frozen it would be worth it. However, I am hoping that it is actually false because if it's true it spells all kinds of unwanted hassles at a time in SL where there are enough hassles going on. Also, it's just plain irresponsible. _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
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Annabelle Babii
Unholier than thou
Join date: 2 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,797
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08-12-2007 09:00
From the OP of the SC thread were I first read about this: "I do know that the story is in fact true or I would not have posted it, as I am putting my name on it and it is my credibility on the line too. The person behind it is a well established person here as well, she asked me to publish it for her so as not to interfere with the resolution of it but to make people aware that it happened and could potentially happen to them. I imagine more details of it will emerge on Monday, since again, LL is an 8-5 M-F only operation for all intents and purposes so nothing else has been able to be resolved on the weekend." If the story turns out to be false, I apologize to the forum. I thought I should post it as a warning. Figured if I helped one account from getting frozen it would be worth it. However, I am hoping that it is actually false because if it's true it spells all kinds of unwanted hassles at a time in SL where there are enough hassles going on. Also, it's just plain irresponsible. There is one way to know for sure (and I'd do it if I wasn't stuck outworld at RL work) Make a throwaway alt. Give it some $L Go to a welcome area and start throwing money around - use the same figure each time. Say, $10L See how long before you get banned. Either way, you're out a few $L, some newbies got some free $L, and we know for sure one way or the other. |
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Zen Zeddmore
3dprinter Enthusiast
Join date: 31 Jul 2006
Posts: 604
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08-12-2007 09:01
^_^ what jessica said.
although looking back over the SC thread, no one asked the OP if s/he tried to comfirm the friend was actually removed from game. _____________________
A kilogram of programmable nanobots can lower the certainty of both death AND taxes.
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Raymond Figtree
Gone, avi, gone
Join date: 17 May 2006
Posts: 6,256
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08-12-2007 09:09
There is one way to know for sure (and I'd do it if I wasn't stuck outworld at RL work) Make a throwaway alt. Give it some $L Go to a welcome area and start throwing money around - use the same figure each time. Say, $10L See how long before you get banned. Either way, you're out a few $L, some newbies got some free $L, and we know for sure one way or the other. _____________________
Read or listen to some Eckhart Tolle. You won't regret it.
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Conan Godwin
In ur base kilin ur d00ds
Join date: 2 Aug 2006
Posts: 3,676
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08-12-2007 13:02
Nothing like uneven-handed justice. I really dislike the entire guilty till proven innocent mess. Meenwhile actual Kacinos are still running in less traveled parts of the grid. Spelling it with a K should also be a bannable offence  _____________________
hateful much? dude, that was low. die. . |
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poopmaster Oh
The Best Person On Earth
Join date: 9 Mar 2007
Posts: 917
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08-12-2007 15:42
http://slurl.com/secondlife/ParrotHead%20Cove/79/68/27
if this was true this island full of gambling would not still be running..... _____________________
InSL u find every kind of no-life retard you could possibly imagine as well as a few even Tim Burton couldnt imagine u find 12yr-olds claiming to be 40 men claiming 2 be women, women claiming 2 make sense and every1 claiming 2 have ideas that are actually worth a damn if only someone would just listen to their unique innovative and exceptionally important idea
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Maggie McArdle
FIOS hates puppies
Join date: 8 May 2006
Posts: 2,855
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08-12-2007 15:45
'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!! get out my head!!!! Long Live John Cleese!! and the MP Gang!! _____________________
There's, uh, probably a lot of things you didn't know about lindens. Another, another interesting, uh, lindenism, uh, there are only three jobs available to a linden. The first is making shoes at night while, you know, while the old cobbler sleeps.You can bake cookies in a tree. But the third job, some call it, uh, "the show" or "the big dance," it's the profession that every linden aspires to.
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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08-12-2007 15:47
The story is not false. The person it happened to has identified herself over on SC. This is a reputable individual, by any standards.
Moreover, this is not the first time this has happened to someone. coco _____________________
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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08-12-2007 17:16
Earlier today, a friend of mine was working in SL an ongoing project that had reached the point of needing stress testing before going live. She lined up some testers, and offered to pay them $1000L if they would submit a report after their testing. Nothing unusual - the test went fine, and she paid out $1000L to about 15 individuals who turned in their reports. Without any warning while doing this, she was suddenly knocked off line with a message saying her account had been suspended pending investigation for gambling activities. The recipients also had the same thing happen. /me nods. This is assuredly true. The same thing happened to a large organization I'm a part of, that while legitimate, was still caught in this automated ban. Seems to affect mainly identical large-size "payouts" to multiple avatars. I guess paychecks look like gambling winnings. This was a really bad idea, LL. Good intentioned, but bad idea. Mari _____________________
 "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world  " - Prospero Linden |
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Tristin Mikazuki
Sarah Palin ROCKS!
Join date: 9 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,012
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hhm?
08-13-2007 14:46
Has anyone heard if this is true and if it got resolved?
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Caroline Ra
Carpe Iugulum
Join date: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 400
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08-13-2007 15:00
Great. Now do you know an inworld private eye that can locate my missing scripted crab? It jumped to the next sim and started an infestation...look for the crotch scratching avis. _____________________
The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made.
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
Join date: 3 Mar 2004
Posts: 5,887
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08-13-2007 15:43
*moves*
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Truth is a river that is always splitting up into arms that reunite. Islanded between the arms, the inhabitants argue for a lifetime as to which is the main river. - Cyril Connolly Without the political will to find common ground, the continual friction of tactic and counter tactic, only creates suspicion and hatred and vengeance, and perpetuates the cycle of violence. - James Nachtwey |
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Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
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08-13-2007 15:44
This is very worrying.
If anyone is still using change-paying vendors, you need to remove them as soon as possible. |
