Internet Nazis strike again

And the other side of the coin is places with the freedom to shoot anyone dead and leave their bodies in the street for weeks.........................

I hope you don't mean Raynor...he was just being ironic!

I actually did. And judging from your response, you actually didn't read mine.



I never claimed the USA to be the voice of the people. You claimed to represent the voice of the people. I merely pointed out that you do not represent the voice of the people.



No they don't. You choose to play a game run by a company governed by US law. Nobody is forcing you to play. Don't want to play a game run by a company governed by US law? Then don't. You don't have some inalienable right to play a US based game and enforce your preferred set of rules on it, bypassing US law. You are free to play some non-US based game. Hey you are even free to build or finance your own game. Really. Try it. The USA won't stop you, honest.



You can vote in your own country, and you enter Second Life by choice.
You want to vote on this issue? You can. By leaving. I promise you won't be shot by any guards while trying to climb the wall to reach freedom. Even better, you won't encounter a wall designed to stop you at all. Wow, this must be the single most liberal dictatorship on the planet.

I couldn't agree more.

The reason LL banned gambling is due to a law that just went into effect that makes it illegal for credit card companies to transfer payments for ONLINE gambling.

LL is not worried about being in trouble with the law; they are worried, and quite reasonably IMO, that the people with the power to cut off the flow of revenue could, if they decide LL is even possibly a gambling site, put them out of business overnight by stopping payments.

Gorean roleplay, on the other hand, is not illegal even in RL, so long as it's roleplay and not real enslavement.

To put it another way: Gorean roleplay is pretend slavery, whereas SL gambling is *real* gambling-- even though the amount of money involved is usually relatively small -- and therefore, it's something the company has to be smart about with regard to the laws.

This isn't complicated, really it's not.

Evidently it is Mick.

I'd be interested in knowing what country the person lives in that doesn't rely on some sort of WMD as part of it's defense. Chances are they don't need them because they are protected by someone else's.

Ok Bobo..........what rate are you taxed at? Do you keep the fruits of your labors or are they taken by the government?

In the country you live in, is it illegal to express certain opinions or ask certain questions?


Are you able to own and carry any rifle, shotgun or handgun you wish?

Answer these questions and then we will see who lives in a dictatorship.

Yeahh...Second Life suddenly needs to make such a firm stance on gambling, but not ONLINE PROSTITUTION?!?! This is retarded!!

I used to be a DJ at a club, earning tips on the side. I didn't know what the hell to do with all my tips, since they were so little and add the fact I couldn't cash in my lindex earned because SL won't reply to fix my account to withdrawl lindex (my max withdrawl limit is set to $0......even through I've been on Second Life 2 years). So, I'd need to sell my lindex off to some third party for cash (with a transfer fee of like $3.50, with a $1.50 check shipping fee). I honestly couldn't even afford the transfer fees, so I spent what I had on Poker in my off-time. Now that SL has banned gambling outright, I have nothing to spend anything on, since SL has effectively banned sources of income for clubs and my favorite thing to do in my spare time on SL. What do I have left? Should I spend my lindex that I earn on a neat pair of virtual clothes or a virtual sword or a virtual crack pipe, or maybe a piece of virtual a**? Sorry, I don't enjoy being told what I can do WILLINGLY WITH MY OWN MONEY. If that isn't an instance big brother tightening his grip on civil rights, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS.

Some people choose to spend 10 bucks at a movie theater watching a movie, some people choose to spend 10 bucks for a round of mini-golf, some people spend 10 bucks playing 2 hours of poker for the thrill of it. It's all the same thing, we're all spending money, it's all entertainment. Sure, there's going to be addicts, as well as addicts in everything else, but should we go BANNING EVERYTHING, based on the actions of a few people and a few selected (and heavily slanted) news reports??? Should we ban buying Star Wars memorabilia, since some Star Wars geek has gone off spending their life savings on Star Wars toys? Or how about we ban all food, since some 800 pound woman spends all her money on eating hundreds of pounds of food everyday? It's all the same thing!!!

Sorry, Second Life has one less contributing citizen now, thanks to this crap. I'm very disappointed the FBI had to meddle in the affairs of a private business, rather than going out catching real criminals.

Are US citizens able to gamble? Pay for (non-forced) prostitution? Take safer drugs than alcohol or cigarettes? (look up the casualty rate on alcohol...and I think you know what it is on cigarettes) Can we buy cheap prescription medicine? ...Or even buy prescription medicine? (the kind without many side effects) Can we protest in public, without a public permit? Can you renounce your citizenship, or permanently leave the country without being treated like a felon for doing so? Can you put racing mods on your car and drive it wherever you want, even through you're obeying the traffic speed?


In case you haven't been catching the drift, the answer to all of those is no. Oh, but sure you can carry a HAND GUN TO KILL WITH, and talk freely. (while increasingly being eavesdropped on by the government, by the way) If you call JUST THAT freedom, you don't deserve it. Oh, I don't care what I do, cause I'm free with my handgun, talking to my friends.

Also, about the leaving the country, the US government has declared that if you have an estimated or predicted value of $500,000 or more, you are considered a tax dodger, and must pay something like $100,000 JUST TO LEAVE. Also, if you decide to leave, you get hassled by the government, questioned, and basically treated like a criminal before you can. It's been much easier to immigrate, but MUCH harder to emigrate. Why? It has to do with taxes. The government wants more people in the country to tax them.

"Do you keep the fruits of your labors or are they taken by the government?"

Does the IRS ring a bell?

You know, many third world countries have protection of speech...maybe not the handgun thing. But I guess if they can't own a handgun, they aren't free, huh?

I can drive for 10 minutes and gamble if I so choose.
And yes the government does take the fruits of our labors, but at a much lower rate than the other nations of the world tax their serfs.

I buy cheap prescription meds every month.

Yes, we are a hell of a lot more free than most everyone else in the world, especially our neighbors to the north and our cousins across the Atlantic.

Because there is no physical act of sex between the two. Same reason phone sex and cam sex is a very profitable operation in the USA and legal.


Being you can't figure that out I ignored the rest of your post.

Maybe I didn't make my statement clear. I was relating gambling to another "sinful" business. I wasn't referring to what online sex is. They're both potentially addicting, there's real money exchanged between them. Same thing. If you read the rest of my post, it might have become clear to you.

LOL yeah you're allowed to carry a gun, but not a sword or wear armor. yeah sounds like a dictatorship to me.

I wonder what the whole debate about buying cheap, generic meds from Canada or Mexico was all about, then. It was a hot issue during the last presidential election.

Also, (correct me if I'm wrong) isn't the general stance of the US government against gambling? It seems like half of the online casinos don't even allow US customers, and the other half gets lots of declined credit cards from US citizens. If the US isn't against it, I wonder why the hell SL would ban it in the first place. They'd be essentially cutting off most of their revenues for the game. I don't think most of SL actually enjoys paying for things, just to play dress-up with their avatars.

Most of SL doesn't pay, period. That's one of the biggest problems today that so far doesn't even appear to be being looked at.

pwned
suck it up norse. you just checked into the smackdown motel.

Nonsense.

*moves*

Can you provide ANYTHING to corroborate that claim, or have you just been usuing soem of those cheap Mexican and Canadian Drugs?

Should have look at this thread more carefully.

Action: Lock & LR
Reason: Trolling
Source: AR