Internet Nazis strike again

What the hell is going on banning gambling, sploders etc!!

I do not live in the U.S, have no desire to live there or be governed by their knee jerk nanny state laws.

Please understand that most people are responsible for their own actions and do not have to be taken by the hand to keep them nice and safe, bottom line is, the whole of the western world is now so scared of being sued over the most stupid things.

Sl is supposed to be an environment where free expression and the right to do pretty much as you want is encouraged, but alas it appears that is not the case anymore.

Such a shame that is seems SL will soon become a place full of buildings with nothing in them, and people wandering around with nothing to do.

Set up your own SL in your country, then. That way, you don't have to worry about the US "nanny laws". You will, however, have to deal with your own country's "nanny laws". In some countries, child porn is legal, so a SL based out of that country would not have to ban child porn images or sexual ageplay.

You see, in the end, it has nothing to do with LL, and has everything to do with what country they operate within.

I don't gamble in SL and have plenty to do. If gambling was the only thing people were getting enjoyment out of SL, then maybe one of the many normal internet gambling sites would be a more enjoyable place for them?

I think it is kinda narrow-minded to think that the ban on Internet gambling will be the death of SL, let alone fun things to do in SL.

Hobos unite!! (and please feed the hedgehogs)

Chill out Cousin. Where you live isn't the issue. LL is subject to the laws of where they live.

In fact of course its not even that LL is in the US, it could be anywhere and would still have to ban gambling if it wanted US citizens to be able to use their credit cards to pay subscriptions, buy lindens, etc.

So let us block US citizens!

Call me crazy but I'd much rather LL block non-US citizens just so we'd no longer have to listen to their continued strident, oh so thinly veiled, elitist whining about this.

Who says you have to be? No one has a gun to your head forcing you to play US based games. If you don't like the rules governing US based games, don't play them.

Noone will call you crazy, most non US citizens are not used to live under dictatorship. So actually i understand that what we call the voice of the people is in your opinion whining. If you are not used to freedom you don't understand the concept of freedom.

As this blocking would go both ways it's seems we agree that blocking based on nationality is something to take seriously. You are blocked from whiners and we will have our freedom back.

last i checked, things like sploders and such (the equivalent of a raffle, or giveaway) arnt illegal ANYWHERE.. yet SL seems to think they are harmfull to the game? pulleeese.
LL is becoming more and more a natzi state, as they slap down laws that dont apply to them in san fransisco or boston, and some that dont even apply to any known contries, simply to exersize whatever control they can, and give them an excuse to steal from the users who play. its sad, and its killing the game. its shame they dont have to common sense or the vison to see this.

If the lindens don't like the laws of other countries they shouldn't accept the subscription of such citizens and keep sl a only US game.

When the germans complained of ageplay kiddy avatars didn't get banned as well. To me a kiddy avatar is like a roulette. If there are no kiddy avatars their will be no agaplay as well. But it seems the US gov is more concerned about grown ups gambling than training camps for pedophiles.

When we subscribed their was no casino ban, even the CEO of LL used to have his own casino. So it's just misleading advertisement. We can't build our own world based on our own imagination.

I'm so excited to see this thread. This is a subject that hasn't been discussed nearly enough in these forums.

(sigh)

*removes tongue from cheek

And it won't be the last one

That's just the whole point! they don't ban child pornography they just wave the finger! If LL would be fair it would ban all things illegal, yet only gambling is illegal????!

If the lindens only want the US slaves as members they should stop harrassing our media with saying how a fun place SL is and we should all subscribe.

And the most annoying part of all this casino ban is that they ban all games. Who cares you don't gamble, i don't, nobody does. It's your free choice not to gamble. But if you can't even play a simple game of sudoku because a linden thinks it's gambling there is a huge problem because that has nothing to do with laws only with stupidity.

The ban covers all things gaming, legal or illegal. So I don't know what you do on sl but your fun can be taken away as easy as my skill games. If a linden finds that your favourite shop looks like a casino you might find your favourite shop gone, not because the shop is illegal but because the shop looks to that linden like a casino!

"Call me crazy but I'd much rather LL block non-US citizens just so we'd no longer have to listen to their continued strident, oh so thinly veiled, elitist whining about this."


listen to text? wow...

ok so maybe you meant "read about..." but in any case.. your highly into self abuse.. since you didnt have to read the post.. didnt have to reply... you chose to, it was your decision...

Call you crazy? yup...Tal YOUR CRAZY>>>

And coming up next, we discuss the Merits of Voice Chat.

IBTL.

Talon returns, looks at what was posted after his first response, nods sadly and says, "I rest my case."

Talon looks as bored as me. The fun doesn't seems to be in-world but on the forums.

Yawn, you're running a month slow

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
*fallen asleep already*

Well, there was some new insight in this thread in that some people (okay, just one but still) are obviously no longer even able to spell the word correctly.

Gambled their brains away, probably.

This is the the message i left at http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/slgaming/

"It should be a completely uncontrovesial fact that Lidnen Lab is a ISP, it is not a content provider it's a service provider. It appears that the US federal law and state laws don't apply to european content providers that use internet as the platform but for some reason those laws apply to content providers that instead use the SL platform... It's completely outragous that a such misuse of laws and abuse of force is not only beeing allowed, it's becoming a daily routine in a developed country. I would be completely fine if Linden Labs EVER declared themself to be a content provider, they're not, or if the service they provide was exclusive to us residents, wich it isnt (only 30% are from usa) majority is from the outside, why do europeans have to pay for corporate crime by american casino tycoons ?"

Ithink all can agree that Linben Lab is not repsponsible for the the content, they are just a internet service provider. And internet is international (however the main dns servers for the internet are located in USA, so basicly at any given time the US govt can shutdown the internet, similar to at any time they can also shutdown SL).

Taking that fact into consideration what FBI did (for us government) was an act of terror accourding to the official Us-Military definition of "act of terror".

The official definition states: "terrorism is violence or other harmful acts committed (or threatened) against civilians for political or other ideological goals."

Infact it was international state terrorism, because the us govt acted on behalf of "ideological goals" set by the us-gambling lobby (driven and funded by us-rl casinos), the goal was the ideology of maintaining a dominant monopoly on all gambling in usa, this would be act of terror by itself, it became international terror when they started to dictate those conditions to other nations.

Let me repeat it again, SL is not a game, it's simply a platform just like godaddy is to the internet so is LL to virtual worlds, Linden Lab is beeing held hostage by the us governement for political and/or ideological goals and civilians using this platform are beeing threatened by use of force, if that ain't terrorism then the official definition of terrorism is lying.

I suggest someone change the title of this thread to "Internet Nazis Commit International State Terrorism!"

Would be more correct definition, lol

It really ain't funny the fact is never before has the us govt used such methods of force to liquidate competition for it's own investors (those that fund politicians through donations).
It's illegal, but then again, what the hell does the current us-govt care about things such as International-Law or Geneva convention, they have enough power to ignore them.

You're right: these inappropriate uses of the terms "Nazi" and "terrorism" aren't funny at all.

I suggest talking to victims of the real thing might lend some much-needed perspective.