Supreme flock of lan = Cheating land scalpers

AAaahaahahah haha ha.

You still can't play.

Pitty you dont own the game, then you might get more people pandering to you selfrightious ego than yourself.

You dont get to make the rules of the game, life is just wonderful.

marcus

Well with that kind of an amount, this will all be quite a lot more fun. And the best part to me, the funniest part, the most ironic part, is that I won't be making a red cent doing any of this. It will simply be a free service to evaporate cash straight out of their pockets.

No. But I might be able to take a hell of a lot of money out of your pocket, and burn it.

...at which point modern society falls appart because the judical system no longer functions because "ethics is subjective" and anything can be legal under certain circumstances.

LMFAO OMGBBQ, I really hope your not talking crap. I really want to see what this "botkiller" your coding is going to do to stop the great lannd menance.

Personally I cant think of one thing that could halm landbots that couldnt or hasnt already been coded against. Yes, yes take the easy shot and call me stupid. Yawn.

Oh and because you obviously have a learning disability, i'll dumb this down for you, I AM NOT RUNNING LAND BOTS, YO!!!

Marcus

Since when have ethics been law? I must be under some misguided impression that Law was Law and ethics were a personal set of beleifs.

Sort of why a "Code of Ethics" or "Code of Conduct" isnt legally binding.


marcus

Woot, look ma i have ethics.

Would killing someone fall under law or ethics?
Sure, it's illegal to do so, but does that stop some people?

Didnt you just answer your own question? Obviously its not unethical in the murderers mind to kill someone. Subjective.

Marcus

Welcome to pop-psychology 101

Well the best thing is that when 100 or more of your bots are pinging the LL servers the Lindens will get mad about this and take action, resulting in adjustment of their TOS to ban all possible landbots and scripts which will bring the market back to something that offers fair buying options for every single land trader in SL, something that isn't the case today but should be.

I don't think you're stupid, I think you're a jerk. They're mutually exclusive.

And, I think I've come up with a couple of ideas that keep the TOS intact while at the same time can probably even the field a bit. And it's not a "bot killer". I'm approaching things from a more subtle direction.

Its actually really interesting to think about, and I'm having quite a good time. That's alright with you, isn't it?

You've been reading my mind. Very naughty.

But that's one idea out of two or three viables, I think. I wouldn't want to attempt this kind of thing first, it would be a last resort if nothing else seems to have an effect.

Thanks, I think your a jerk to. You dont need my persmission to do anything in SL. I would be having a good time, but im an impatient jerk who wants the anti-landbots to be ready now so i can see how well they "level" the field. Might just be the motivation for me to actually finish writing my landbot =)

If you would be so kind to drop me a line when you have finished i would be most grateful. Most people IM me with "hay, jerk. I have somthing to tell you, so stop looking at porn you degenerate fcuk and listen up!"

Marcus

Lolz, there are already 100's of bots in SL 24/7 and as of yet LL has done nothing.

Elanthius Flagstaff was running the bots when the market went down to $1500 for a 512 so that sinks the "bot increase land cost" theory.

Welcome to the free market, supply and demand. All hail Neo-Capitalism!

Marcus

The fact that LL was releasing massive amounst of first land at the time not withstanding....

Hmm I'll send them a case of bananas.


and yes, considering the state of the grid day to day and their ignoring it and us the customers a reasoned argument could be made that they are in fact monkeys... now if someone could put them in a room so they can write the works of Shakespeare.

Market forces at work. Land will move up and down due to market forces which landbots will have little or no impact apon.

Everyone seems to think that landbots have some super power to control prices, crapspittly, they have as much force on the market as all the people that scanned the land search for bargins, bought them and then relisted them at FMV.

Oh, wait lets see now, hmmm before it was landbots it was the land barrons, those theives and conartists. Damn their oily hydes.

The people that cant see this simple fact that land bots are just faster at what they do, but they only do what land brokers have already been doing with little effect on the market. You want to see land prices fall, wait till LL opens a crap load of new sims. LL is the only one who has the ability to affect land prices at will.

Marcus

I have been land hopping today, I have watched avatars buying land up to 1.5L per metre (very cheap). Elanthius was in a selling mood today, he listed a ton of parcels just below the cheapest price for mainland, 40 or 50 so far and he's still doing it at the moment.
He must have given his bot the day of, because real people were buying the parcels in the last couple of hours. This indicates that there aren't 100's of bots at work, if so they blow.

Software like Elanthius is using constantly pings the LL dataserver requesting packets, sure not a huge load so his bot doesn't do any harm to the dataserver, when a few 100 people start running such bots, even multiple ones from the same pc the load will become more heavy.

If the software is coded well which can't be to difficult for a decent programmer the one who has the T1 line and is closest to the data server will get the parcels, well most of them.

Cable > T1

Man oh man, thanks for the newbs guide to sl and how the internet works, but im passed that. Yawn, yawny yawn. If you dont know that there are 100's of bots (not just Elanthius) in SL already your a nub. I saw a few the other day, buzzing around, do what ever they are programmed to do.

Im a l33t h@xs@w!!11!!1111!!! and this is getting old. Why dont we change the topic to the flying dildos that attacked anshe chung.

Oh but I have to say;

"when a few 100 people start running such bots, even multiple ones from the same pc the load will become more heavy."

Compared to the 30k people that log in every day? Please even 200/300 bots would be irrelivant.

Marcus

OC-192 > ALL, mahahaahahahahaha

Its incredibly funny the only guy one the landbot creators side, is the copybot seller. Marcus, no doubt your a smart person, and Elanthius, same to you. But Marcus, your coming off very arrogant, I have read every one of your posts. And Elanthius, theres not a single person thats not on your payroll that thinks what your doing is good.
I will admit my major problem with landbot is purely that it beats me to the good deals. No TOS violation there. But sooner or later your going to have to look at more than just the TOS to understand that whats right and wrong cant be determined in a TOS. You yourself said the only people it affects are your competitors, absolutely correct, it affects me, it effect all the others too, it also affect the guy trying to buy a peice of land for himself. Your bot is indiscriminate, it affects every person buying land. So partly you have to look at it from a ethical point of view. The other part and I did raise concern about it before and not trying to rehash old debate... wait yes i am, database overload, not just your bots overloading the system, but everyone trying to beat your bots too! its a crazy world,
But I have got to give you credit for one thing, you did force me to adapt, I'm 95% out of the mainland business because of you, and very happy to be so now, since your bot came out i dumped my mainland holdings and got into estates. so there is your thanks, still dont mean your right.
And you know it too, your just making too much money to let your conscience get the better of you..
oh Marcus... you have no conscience

> to understand that whats right and wrong
I'd guess their aim is rather making shedloads of money (which they doubtlessly do) then to get respect or friendship or something. Some thousand bucks easily make up for the lack of sympathy.

To be honest, if I were able to code such a bot, I also wouldn't care too much for not being loved, while bathing in my bucks

Care about selling that bot, Elanthius? How much would it be?

That happens not to be true. Yes, there were people who put lots up for sale at prices as low as $512, but that was simply a matter of "black humor" in the middle of a market collapse. I was in-world that night teleporting around to the lowest parcel, talking to the land speculators who showed up, and we finally had an "end of the bubble" party as the price settled down.

The lowest sustained price during the price crash was $3000, and it was back up over $4000 the next morning, and hit the pre-bubble high of $5000 again within days. Prices in the middle of a market panic have as little to do with "fair market value" as prices in the preceding bubble did. The fact that prices are way above the pre-bubble historical level despite the fact that there's more land on the market than I've ever seen means there's *something* keeping them artificially high.

There's a L$2000 difference between the prices the "land barons" were able to maintain and in the current market.

No, the bots do not operate the way humans do. Humans can tell a junk lot from a good one, bots can't.

To quote Churchill, "we've established what you are, and now we're simply negotiating the price".

And if a few thousand bucks impresses you, your price isn't very high at all.