Supreme flock of lan = Cheating land scalpers

It was an object lesson response to your "wheeerrbulance" comment. I thought it a bit more conceptually elegant than straight sarcasm.

Bastard, I prefer entrepreneur. But either or.

Marucs

Yeah? You'd probably make more money if you invested in one of those get-rich-quick-by-selling-lame-stuff-on-the-internets schemes.

Which I wouldn't be surprised to hear you'd done first, and failed.

Wow, another one. You good, i officially award you the title of "internet insult master".

Im not sure if you have been aying attention or whether its just a comprehention deficiency, but im not actually running land bots. But then dont let that get in your way of interlectually superiour insults.

Marcus

Oh, well when you agreed that "bastard" was a suitable description (in that you at least did not care), the implication was that you did. Your implication, not mine. Looks like you netted me!

I'd flip you off in second life, but it seems my body has completely disappeared and does not want to come back. Yay lindens!

You two are just trying to get this thread locked, aren't you?

Oh crap, im gunna go run and hide under my virtual bed, some one is going to have their AV give me the bird. Mooooommmmmyyyyy.

So whats your problem, is it the bots or the fact that you think SL is run by monkeys?

So far you have just said bland gernerics, bots baaaaad, people that run them are baaaad. etc etc etc.

Marcus

lolz, no thats not my intent, i would like for people to tell me what they are their reasons for disliking land bots, besides they are evil, or they raise land prices, or steal from the unfortunate.

So far no one has had one arguement that wasn't seriously flawed and FUD.

Marucs

Anyone tried ethics yet?

Ethics are subjective. Im after a concrete answer as to why bots are sooooo evil.

So far we have had,

Ethics, land price increases, ripping people off, licencing violations, TOS violations, you shouldnt do it just because you can, land monopolization, unfair, and a torrent of other rubbish.

All of those arugments are either opinion and subjective or out right wrong.

Can anyone supply me with a reason that is not opinion or plain crap?

I doubt it.

Marcus

Spare me, please.. You've been around since october and the only posts you've ever made are here in this thread today? "Hi, I'm the one that was selling copybot. Any of you idiots still hate me? I think landbots are cool!"

Troll.

LMFAO, Troll really? Way to dodge my question. Take my comments as you will, but it doens't make my questions any less valid. Oh, and what if I had a post count of 1000 would that makes my comments any more valid?

So far i have NOT seen one comment on the issue of bots (including copybot, landbot, campbot, sheepbot, blahblahbbot) having a negative impact on SL that has any grounding.

I can name half a dozen valid rational reasons why bots have no negative impact on SL.

Instead of posting useless comments that serve no purpose try responding to the question.

Marcus

Some bots are fine, but the quick-money type are unquestionably exclusively run by lazy bastards who won't do more than lift one finger (their mouse finger) to make a buck.

And, of course I have no problem with the monkeys that run SL. They have one of the worst jobs in the world. My problem is with the monkeys that DESIGN it.

Hmmm...you know, I did grab the SL client source, and I'm not half bad at programming myself. What if I were to make a bot whos sole purpose was to ruin as many sales by people who attempt to get land with bots as possible? I can think of about a dozen different ways to do it that wouldn't violate the TOS.

Would that be ethical? Would you mind something like that? What if I released it under GPL to anyone who wanted it?

What if there were hundreds of them running all over the place, making land flipping utterly impossible?

Huh. Watch for it. Let's just see what happens.

Really? And even if that was true why would that be a problem? Oh sorry I misunderstood you, thats right you trying the tired old line that making money is evil, opps sorry no i misquoted you, you really mean, making money easily is evil, because you have to work for it other wise your no better then a theif.

Wake up and smell you own BS, you think Elanthius Flagstaff clicked a mouse and landbot was born, crap, he had to write the code, debug it and then front the large amount money to run it, which at any stage he could lose.

While its not hard to write a land bot, its not a click of a mouse either.

Marcus

Not gonna argue with the rest of the post I am quoting, but it would appear to me that he is indeed using it privately.

If you can manage this without breaking the TOS I strongly encourage you to go ahead. It's really no big deal to me and the extra challenge would be fun.

So he had to write the code? Much to the contrary to popular belief, programming is not rocket science--unless you don't know how to do it.

I've already started the preliminaries for my bot, by the way. I don't know what I'm going to call it yet, but it's purpose will be ceiling and leveling at minimum the real-estate market in SL, since the lindens obviously don't care.

I can't sit by and watch people like you make money by being jerks. So I'm going to stop whining about it, and take a little action.

Now, since you're so good at programming yourself, you're free to see if you can do something to re-unbalance the system after the introduction of my tool(s). Actually, now that I think of it, that'd be a pretty neat competition, no? I would wager however that it would be a competition that the vast majority of SL denizens would want me to win.

See, I already like you more. Ok, Elanthius, you gotcher self a competition. I love a good bit of brain-battling. TOS will of course remain intact.

I say go for it, sounds like a fantastic idea. And no im not joking. As an interlectual exercise it takes the cake, landbots vs anti-landbots. Great how long before you start?

Oh wait, again your talking crap. Just more vague empty threats to stop the landbot menace and in the end just more words.

But please prove me wrong, either that or answer my question.

Marcus

Do yourself a favor... Forget the client code completely. Just go for the libsl code, because it can do absolutely everything you need with far less resources than a modified client. It also doesn't take 20 minutes to compile, more like 2. And by being less resource-intensive, you can run 10 of them concurrently on a single machine.

I am mostly playing devil's advocate, but I also have concerns that so many are throwing around the "modified client" phrase when that is almost certainly not what the bot is. People who don't know better will attribute all kinds of "bad stuff" to Linden Lab's open source viewer and I think that would be a shame. I fully support LL's decision to open-source the viewer.

Yeah, I've decided that I'm not talking to you anymore. Elanthius waited until a good moment to enter the fray where he didn't have to be a dick. And looking back on this thread, he's defended himself pretty tooth and nail, but always been civil about it. He didn't have to be; I've been calling him all kinds of mean names all this time. I appreciate his civility in the face of my extremely negative comments in his direction.

So, you can't play.

I'm thinking about it now, figuring out a few major issues with TOS first. We'll see how it goes.

Ah, and excellent point. I was so involved in being bitchy that I didn't think about the open source aspect of the client. You're right. libsl it is.

Actually, I think it might even be a lot more fun that way, since gratification is a hell of a lot more instant.

You point being what? He still had to write didnt he? or did the magic fairys do it for him?



Want some cheese with that whine?



Good luck, you'll need it, although I cant wait to see what you come up with. Persoanlly I think you bound to fail horridly. But either way it will be fun.



Just because the majority is on your side doesnt make you right, just makes a lot of people stupid.

marcus

It's way more than a few bucks, I think he's making around 500 USD a day by doing this.
People don't have any idea about the amount of parcels he snipes but a few days ago there was huge lag on the land search results which allowed you to visit all the parcels that were already sold in the last hours, all these parcels just kept being listed because of the lag and this allowed me to get a nice overview of who bought what and for how much.