If you were conenient to Dallas I could do a complete nuke,pave,lock on the PC, for fairly cheap (dinner or something).
I'm not going to bother with diagnostics on a forum like this (for reasons other than bitchy backseat techs).
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**Asri Falcone Hijacked(Idenity Theft)** |
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Burke Prefect
Cafe Owner, Superhero
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08-08-2005 11:40
If you were conenient to Dallas I could do a complete nuke,pave,lock on the PC, for fairly cheap (dinner or something).
I'm not going to bother with diagnostics on a forum like this (for reasons other than bitchy backseat techs). |
Camille Serpentine
Eater of the Dead
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08-08-2005 11:42
I'd install
Skip mccaffee and norton and make sure you disconnect from the internet while you clean up your machine. _____________________
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Circe Broom
Registered User
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08-08-2005 11:49
I am so sorry this happened to you, Asri! It is frightening! I think your idea of logging in with other than our user names is a good one.. But there is something strange about all this. All those who carry a lot of Lindens, beware!
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
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08-08-2005 12:02
I'd install
Skip mccaffee and norton and make sure you disconnect from the internet while you clean up your machine. And I'd get a Mac instead. Behind a router. Asri, such misuse of your personal computer systems and theft of your accounts constitute a serious crime, and I hope the perp gets at least a few years of jail. _____________________
Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
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Christopher Omega
Oxymoron
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08-08-2005 12:09
This is very scary, and I really hope Asri's able to get some of her SL assets back. As a preventative measure, make an alt account and dont use it for anything other then holding money & dont tell anyone you have it. Every so often, transfer all of Asri's funds to that alt, save about L$1000, just to have some conveniant spending cash on hand.
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Gabe Lippmann
"Phone's ringing, Dude."
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08-08-2005 12:12
This is disturbing. Perhaps you could try contacting an organization such as this:
http://www.idtheftcenter.org/vresources.shtml _____________________
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
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08-08-2005 12:16
It pretty much takes an attorney to do this, they can subpoena the information from LL. ... Asri, I would suggest you reformat your computer and install your antivirus/firewall software BEFORE you take it on the net. Then, go to windows update and download all the patches. I would advise contacting the FBI and frame this as identity theft. (Since it is business accounts being hacked.) They may actually want you *not* to erase your hard drive if they act on it. _____________________
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Laquita Maracas
She's A Brick House
Join date: 5 Dec 2003
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08-08-2005 12:17
I just confirmed with Robin Harper that it is impossible to get a password from customer service by calling them. The passwords are stored as encrypted one way hashes - they do not have access to them even if they wanted to give it to someone. They can only reset the password and send it to the email on file. Also, any requests or changes of account information must have the account security question answered correctly.
It certainly sucks what is happening to Asri, but at least it does not appear that customer service is the weak link here and that you can just call and finesse a password out of them. |
Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
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08-08-2005 12:19
I just confirmed with Robin Harper that it is impossible to get a password from customer service by calling them. The passwords are stored as encrypted one way hashes - they do not have access to them even if they wanted to give it to someone. They can only reset the password and send it to the email on file. Also, any requests or changes of account information must have the account security question answered correctly.
It certainly sucks what is happening to Asri, but at least it does not appear that customer service is the weak link here and that you can just call and finesse a password out of them. _____________________
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Roseann Flora
/wrist
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08-08-2005 12:20
I'm sorry to hear this.
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
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08-08-2005 12:47
I just confirmed with Robin Harper that it is impossible to get a password from customer service by calling them. The passwords are stored as encrypted one way hashes - they do not have access to them even if they wanted to give it to someone. They can only reset the password and send it to the email on file. Also, any requests or changes of account information must have the account security question answered correctly. It certainly sucks what is happening to Asri, but at least it does not appear that customer service is the weak link here and that you can just call and finesse a password out of them. No they did not give them the PW Cris, but THEY DID talk to this person thinking it was Asri and it really wasnt! _____________________
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Jeska Linden
Administrator
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08-08-2005 14:20
Moved to Notices and Well Wishes.
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Roseann Flora
/wrist
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08-08-2005 14:54
Bump
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Asri Falcone
THAT B!TCH
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08-08-2005 14:54
seens they move the post....considering its not an announcement or a well wish i was looking for i dont know why it was moved. I posted this because im flustered and dont know what to do about the situation and was looking for the general input of sl residents which was working til it was passed off amungst the birthday crap. just like lindens to look at a pictures and not read the content.
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Asri Falcone
THAT B!TCH
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08-08-2005 15:03
I would advise contacting the FBI and frame this as identity theft. (Since it is business accounts being hacked.) They may actually want you *not* to erase your hard drive if they act on it. i did that on the 10th yet nothing....and been hit a few time since. _____________________
I belive the children are our future...teach them well and let them....wait a second...I dont belive that $hit!!
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Roseann Flora
/wrist
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08-08-2005 15:15
Oh my.. moment 22.. But LL must take care of this so the future will be brighter for us all.. and that it cant happen again.. the question are of course whos next??? LL must act... who want to do serious business in SL when this can happen us all?? In my case it was ”easy to prove” and they hunted down the man. But at that time this was so new that there was no prejudicats.. He are still out in cyber and IRL of course - but I am checked up often - still now after many years... no fun but. what to do... Exactly my thoughts....this is just horrible and I really hope something can be done soon to fix this mess! _____________________
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Cutter Rubio
Hopeless Romantic
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08-08-2005 15:27
Interesting question is how the password is passed from client to server? Is it encrypted enroute or does it go clear-text. If it's clear-text, any old packet capture tool could grab it. If Asri is in fact choosing secure passwords, with special characters, numerics and mixed case, it would seem that's the only way someone could be grabbing it, short of actually logging in on her actual PC themselves if the "Remember Me" box is checked.
This is, of course, assuming that any chance of a trojan or password grabber has been eliminated already, as others have noted. _____________________
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Lisbeth Cohen
Registered User
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08-08-2005 16:18
Oh no, Asri
![]() I really hope Lindens take this security issue very serious, and at least raise the level of security to netbank standard. Because we are after all trading with real money here! I too have experienced not being able to log in because already logged in a few times last year. Since I was able to log in only a few minutes later I didn't think more about it. But after my last attempt to quit sl (mission impossible - lol) a good friend sworn she had seen me come online while I were offline. I asked her and other good friends to tell me if that happened again. And I changed my sl password. Have not happened to me since - that I'm aware of at least. Cutter: I really hope Lindens have properly encryption to passwords and anything the client sends and receive. But I fear most are sent without encryption ![]() I suggest changing password very often, use your alt as your bank (as I understand she is not exposed to this crime...?), and to install multiple anti-spyware programs and virus checkers. I use PC-Cillin, System Mechanic and AdAware. Hope this was the last time this have happened to you - and to anyone else! *warm huggs* |
Rose Portocarrero
Here to look cute
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08-08-2005 16:41
{{{hugs Asri}}}
I agree with others that this sounds like a key-logger was put on your computer. These obnoxious pieces of code are not picked up by virus checkers and can easily send out on any of your open communication ports by-passing your firewall. It is the only way to fully explain your passwords being stolen and the thief seemingly "ahead of you" on all your changes. ![]() Keep an eye out on your credit cards as well. If it was a key logger, they can get your credit info the exact same way. If this person did get greedy, you may have your "paper proof" right there. It sucks, and I hope you find this person and press charges. I would also hope Linden Labs would take this as seriously as they did the client hack last month and be as cooperative as possible. - Rose |
Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
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08-08-2005 17:25
Moved to Notices and Well Wishes. Why was this moved here? Good lord! Dont you think this should be in the general forum for discussion and assistance, why was it moved??????????????????? _____________________
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
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08-08-2005 17:44
Why was this moved here? Good lord! Dont you think this should be in the general forum for discussion and assistance, why was it moved??????????????????? Because it's a notice to the community that her account has been hacked? Feel free to start a general discussion about password security in another forum. This thread belongs here, however. |
Eboni Khan
Misanthrope
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08-08-2005 17:54
Because we are after all trading with real money here! Lindens have no value per the TOS. _____________________
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Asri Falcone
THAT B!TCH
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08-08-2005 18:39
Lindens have no value per the TOS. yet they advertise the money making possibilities? _____________________
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Ardith Mifflin
Mecha Fiend
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08-08-2005 19:00
yet they advertise the money making possibilities? Yehp. Even relatively benign companies like SL frequently distort the truth. The sooner you catch on, the sooner you can join the rest of us bitter, jaded, and disillusioned persons. The world is a vicious place! |
Asri Falcone
THAT B!TCH
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08-08-2005 19:13
Yehp. Even relatively benign companies like SL frequently distort the truth. The sooner you catch on, the sooner you can join the rest of us bitter, jaded, and disillusioned persons. The world is a vicious place! jaded? bitter? i only wish my feelings toward that were so ....so....so....eeeeh clear and non-hostile. ![]() _____________________
I belive the children are our future...teach them well and let them....wait a second...I dont belive that $hit!!
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