New Stipend Policy

Maybe the resmods can be a good thing if they can move this thread..

I come to general to avoid the stipend posts.

Now's the time to get those stubborn friends to sign up!!









Just got to thinking.

Land? If you have the premium membership just for L$ - I suggest you switch to Lindex, it is cheaper.

Oh, it takes me many tries too...but most likely the first $L250 they spend won't be on textures.

I wouldn't be surprised if LL would happily refund you for the disconituation of the Lifetime membership.

Not with all the content creators wanting to increase prices - 250 is nothing, it buys you one mistake.

The perceived value of the L has just gone up, expect sales to decline as people think before they buy.

No, because this affects everybody - not just the trolls.

My inventory still doesn't load. We don't need any new members until the asshat system performs better

Actually they are.

I have a premium account, my land is my own, and nothing except the closure of SL can take that away from me.

If I rent land somewhere from a land baron who decides the effort isn't worth it for the profit, and decides to quit, then you lose your land.

$10 a month gives me security and peace of mind until either the day SL closes, or I choose otherwise. I am in control, nobody else.

Lewis

Exactly, a prem. acc. is about owning land, the bigger stipend is a bonus, that if were all honest we need a lot less than some 2 day old.

The first piece of advice that I give new players is DONT spend your money. There's 10,000 freebies out there and damn if they aren't good. I make extensive use of them myself, or just build my own stuff.
Plus, half the people in SL are out there to get your money while providing only a token product.

Well the newbie experience is going to be even tougher now, I hope there's plans to make it friendlier/educate them better in other areas.

Of course not, it will be left to the community to pick up the pieces.

The 'bigger stipend' is part of my spending. It's what enables me to buy things from other players, upload textures and sounds, play Tringo, and tip other players whose presence entertains me (such as musicians), or assist me (such as the scripter who I tipped L$1000 for writing a script I needed custom-making).

My 'income' goes right back into the economy, helping other people who enrich my SL experience. The only time I have cashed out was about L$20,000 which I had to 'borrow' in order to buy another plot of land before I was able to sell my current plot of land, which I got L$20,000 for.

What I provide to Second Life is constantly growing, evolving, changing, as my knowledge and capabilities grow. The L$500 I get each week is a great help towards that.

Lewis

I think this idea is fairly sensible, why not cut stipends for people with a pile of L$ ? After all we don't need them. I've been giving my stipend away in the form of money tree for ages now and I'd still keep the tree even if I had no stipend to give. Honestly, for an lot of us losing L$500 a week would be worth some stability in the market if it worked.

I fully expect that LL will either do away with the sandboxes, or start charging admission for them. Sorry but I need a little more bang for my buck, the prices are just too high for what you get.

membership
land
uploads
pot donations

-stippends
-dwell

What is my incentive to create? Oh thats right "Admission ticket sales".

No thanks.

Bryce, 3DMax, and the like are a one time purchase something LL would be smart to remember. Also the fact that unlike food and air no one realy needs SL.

so L$ perceived value is going up? well bullshit

L$ is getting cheaper and cheaper i am starting to get sick of the "perceived value" that is sooo far from the true value, because hey maybe i am a fool but its because of SL that i am not living in a cardboard box on the street, each months i dump 200usd to linden labs, yet i see peoples whine to drop 5L$ for a few entertainment stuffs...

world is crazy -_-

Give them a cm and they try to km!

Actually, LL doesn't need to care - totaly differen't market.

Still banging that drum?

Go back and re-read your ToS... LL can change the terms of their agreement at their own discression.

Sorry,

Don't want a refund and I plan on being a member of SL for life.

You know,

If you want to make so much money from Second Life, why not try building a store in the real world and making real money there. See that way you will not have to worry about exchange rates (As long as you sell with-in the US or whatever nation you live in) and there is a Federal Government that will protect you from Inflation.

Second Life should be for those who want to escape the Conservative Work Ethic. Second Life was ment to be a place to come and relax and escape all the pressures that business mogols brought to Second Life.

And may I ask, are you saying.... Linden Labs will not keep their word that they put on paper???

If you are so big on giving up your pay, why don't you just do that, and leave the rest of us alone???

Removing this form of virtual welfare is an important step to take. Free hand outs of money in a world where neither food nor shelter is necessary is just downright silly.

I don't understand why people have this sense of entitlement to "something for nothing" - premium account holders are already footing the bill for non-premium accounts, why should free accounts also be allowed to bork the L$ / US$ value as well?

FACT: If everyone was a basic account holder, Linden Lab and Second Life would cease to exist.

While we've currently got about 250,000 residents, the removing of certain sources (especially freebies) to the economy is essential to stablize it - just look at the statistics page and at the current inbalance between L$ sources and L$ sinks. Anyone who's taken Econ 101 can see this step is necessary. The amount of "free L$" that this L$50 would represent when Second Life has 1 million or 10 million citizens would certainly continue to destablize the L$ / US$ ratio.

Regards,

-Flip

Why's that crazy?

You pay US$200 for a platform that provides you with a real-life income and access to a virtual society that you're a recognised and respected member of.

Why is it so unreasonable to think that people who get far less from SL, would be prepared to pay far less for it?

I can see lots of nastiness resulting from this, myself:

- Building/texturing classes will now have to give out L$ to people to upload their textures with. This means people will start "gaming" these classes by turning up, getting the money, then leaving without doing the upload.

- Camping chairs will come back! Older users with clubs or stores will use their stipend to fund L$1/3 min camping chairs that will still appeal to users who'd otherwise have no money at all.

- Newbies will have to be warned out of the gate that their L$250 is all they have unless they buy more. Telephone signups will become effectively moot, as will cheap newbie sales. People will feel "bait-and-switched" by the free memberships and quit.

- Business will become harder, with less easily claimable income around.