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Nicole David
Furniture Queen
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 134
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05-25-2006 19:38
In addition, effective Monday, May 29, we will no longer offer a L$50 weekly stipend to NEW basic account holders. Existing basic account holders will continue to receive their L$50 stipend on the weeks they log in. Premium account holders, both new and existing, will be unaffected. I think this is a good start...and hope to see it go much further, very soon. |
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Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
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05-25-2006 19:44
I think this is a good start...and hope to see it go much further, very soon. oh hush! _____________________
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
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05-25-2006 19:51
It's about time!
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Nicole David
Furniture Queen
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 134
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05-25-2006 19:53
oh hush! No, I just think that after 4 weeks of account ownership weekly stipends should be cut in all basic accounts. For one account $50L a week is not much - at all, but for the economy it's a big chunk. |
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Musicteacher Rampal
Registered User
Join date: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 824
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05-25-2006 20:13
No, this is bad. Now new members will not have anything to expirament and learn how to build, create their own textures, go to events (because once dwell is gone, you know people will be charging admission), take snap shots, etc.
A good start would be cutting stipends for everyone who has over $L 500,000 in their account. |
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
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05-25-2006 20:25
Back in my day we walked 5 miles to school and it was uphill both ways! Let the new people do the same.
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"If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of doing you good, you should run for your life." - Henry David Thoreau
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Nicole David
Furniture Queen
Join date: 7 Sep 2005
Posts: 134
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05-25-2006 20:31
No, this is bad. Now new members will not have anything to expirament and learn how to build, create their own textures, go to events (because once dwell is gone, you know people will be charging admission), take snap shots, etc. A good start would be cutting stipends for everyone who has over $L 500,000 in their account. They still get $L250 to start off with..that's enought to experiment with. |
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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05-25-2006 20:33
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Musicteacher Rampal
Registered User
Join date: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 824
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05-25-2006 20:34
I just don't think it's going to have the desired effect.
Those who get $L's on a regular basis and want some more for a big purchase will buy whatever is available at the rates the sellers post (if they get rid of the limit buy option) Those who have to buy $L's to function at all will either wait for the lowest price possible, encouraging undercutting or they will say "screw this" and leave. I just think it's a bad idea if the goal is to encourage people to join SL....lets just pray they don't cut the premium stipend, what incentive would there be at all to have a premium membership? |
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Musicteacher Rampal
Registered User
Join date: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 824
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05-25-2006 20:35
They still get $L250 to start off with..that's enought to experiment with. The first time I created my own texture for something I built it took me 10 tries to get it right... $250 is 25 uploads...not nearly enough |
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Magnum Serpentine
Registered User
Join date: 20 Nov 2003
Posts: 1,811
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05-25-2006 20:36
I think this is a good start...and hope to see it go much further, very soon. I believe this is just more of giving into a Vocal Minority and leaving the rest of Second Life out in the cold. I do hope that Linden Labs remembers that all US$225 lifetimers, in exchange for paying 225 were told in writing that we would get 500 lindens a week. |
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Khamon Fate
fategardens.net
Join date: 21 Nov 2003
Posts: 4,177
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05-25-2006 20:38
Back in my day we walked 5 miles to school and it was uphill both ways! Let the new people do the same. _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
I.C.
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 2,492
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05-25-2006 20:49
No, this is bad. Now new members will not have anything to expirament and learn how to build, create their own textures, go to events (because once dwell is gone, you know people will be charging admission), take snap shots, etc. A good start would be cutting stipends for everyone who has over $L 500,000 in their account. How many $50 per week would this be? I've no idea but my guess would be that between cashing out and having a premium rather than basic membership the number wouldn't be that significant. _____________________
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Anna Bobbysocks
Registered User
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 373
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05-25-2006 20:54
uRk, now general is going to get all these posts? yeep.
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Susie Boffin
Certified Nutcase
Join date: 15 Sep 2004
Posts: 2,151
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05-25-2006 20:56
in four feet of snow...you forgot the snow I wish! I was more like 10 feet of snow no matter what the season. _____________________
"If you see a man approaching you with the obvious intent of doing you good, you should run for your life." - Henry David Thoreau
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Vares Solvang
It's all Relative
Join date: 26 Jan 2005
Posts: 2,235
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05-25-2006 20:58
The only ones this will help is the Lindens. It will encourage new basic account holders to upgrade to Premium accounts. So in effect, the Lindens will get more money, and more lindens will get into circulation. So if anything, this will have a negative effect on the exchange rate.
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Musicteacher Rampal
Registered User
Join date: 20 Feb 2004
Posts: 824
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05-25-2006 21:01
that's just it, taking away $L 50 a week from NEW members only is so insignificant why bother? It makes the experience less fun for new players checking things out and will not really effect the economy at all
As for the cutting of people with a high $L balance (I said $500,000 as a starting place) would probably not be basic members. It's more likely to be premium members who run successful businesses or those who can afford to buy lots of $L and don't need their stipends, you know the ones complaining abouot the value of the $L. |
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Richie Waves
Predictable
Join date: 29 Jun 2005
Posts: 1,424
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05-25-2006 21:09
It's more likely to be premium members who run successful businesses or those who can afford to buy lots of $L and don't need their stipends, you know the ones complaining abouot the value of the $L. just like RL aye.. those with it tend to be the ones begrudging it of others. 50l a week ffs! _____________________
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Cocoanut Cookie
Registered User
Join date: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 1,741
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05-25-2006 21:13
I just realize a HUGE psychological aspect of this.
I imagine I'm a new member. I don't have any Lindens; I've spent my $250. I see something else I want to buy. Hmmm. I click at the thing on the top of the page, and I see how I can buy Lindens from LL. (Can you buy only in blocks of 1000?) Ok, so anyway, I decide I'll give the Lindens $2.98 so I can buy a new skin. Hmm, I think to myself. The game's free, but if I want stuff, I just have to pay LL for it. ------- That is my huge epiphany: That because it is sitting there on the screen, I, the new player, think I am buying money from LL. Yes? No? coco _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
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05-25-2006 21:13
Moved to Land and Economy.
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Tsukasa Karuna
Master of all things desu
Join date: 30 Jun 2004
Posts: 370
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05-25-2006 21:28
Am I the only one who saw the annoncement title and thought "Oh shit, they finally yanked stipends"?
This is a good start, aye. Stipend elegibility should be a matter of income though, not of L$ held. Its too easily abused. If the ceiling is 100k, all i have to do is give a friend (or an alt) enough to put me below the cap on payday and i'm up 500. Then again.. if you have that much money, 500 probably isnt going to matter to you a whole lot. Just sayin', tho. Another thing about premium accounts.. they simply are not worth it anymore. You can own land on one of the many developments springing up (Dreamland, azure islands, etc) get a hell of a lot more stability, better neighbors, less lag, AND for less money than you pay on the main grid. And with the L$ being what its at, why drop 9+ a month on premium when i can drop that much into LindeX and get more bang for my buck? So long, premium. _____________________
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Six Kennedy
I make boxes - Lots of em
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 544
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05-25-2006 21:37
that's just it, taking away $L 50 a week from NEW members only is so insignificant why bother? It makes the experience less fun for new players checking things out and will not really effect the economy at all As for the cutting of people with a high $L balance (I said $500,000 as a starting place) would probably not be basic members. It's more likely to be premium members who run successful businesses or those who can afford to buy lots of $L and don't need their stipends, you know the ones complaining abouot the value of the $L. There are probably SO few people if any at all that have that kinda money in there account. That being the case .. taking away 500 a week from them will do NOTHING much. _____________________
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,760
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05-25-2006 21:39
Am I the only one who saw the annoncement title and thought "Oh shit, they finally yanked stipends"? This is a good start, aye. Stipend elegibility should be a matter of income though, not of L$ held. Its too easily abused. If the ceiling is 100k, all i have to do is give a friend (or an alt) enough to put me below the cap on payday and i'm up 500k. Then again.. if you have that much money, 500k probably isnt going to matter to you a whole lot. Just sayin', tho. Another thing about premium accounts.. they simply are not worth it anymore. You can own land on one of the many developments springing up (Dreamland, azure islands, etc) get a hell of a lot more stability, better neighbors, less lag, AND for less money than you pay on the main grid. And with the L$ being what its at, why drop 9+ a month on premium when i can drop that much into LindeX and get more bang for my buck? So long, premium. Speaking purely as a consumer, I'd be happy to see it go. I'd prefer it was just tier and the Lindex, then I could choose if, when, how much and at what price buying L$ suited me. _____________________
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Miriel Enfield
Prim Junkie
Join date: 12 Dec 2005
Posts: 389
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05-25-2006 21:55
Bleh. Bad idea, I say, and I'm disappointed at the possibility that a few screeching rent seekers in the Land and Economy forum have influence. I'd much rather they cut the stipend for all basic accounts older than a month or two. That would slow the influx of cash, and it would still give newbies a chance to buy things or upload things. Newbies already have a hard enough time finding things to do. Drastically cutting the ability of new people to experiment with shopping or content uploading doesn't seem like a good way to retain people.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
Forums Rock!
Join date: 22 Dec 2003
Posts: 14,229
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05-25-2006 22:08
uRk, now general is going to get all these posts? yeep. It does sort of seem like Land and Economy would be the place for a stipend related thread, doesn't it? _____________________
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