Beware

Shaun...you seem to ahve a habit of defending those who are not entirely honest in their dealings. I know who is being spoken of as well. I know the games are custom scripted to only pay out verrrry arely. and I know when they do pay out unless you are one of a chonsen few..you'll enver get the pay off. If linden is going ot ahve an in wolrd economy then they need to stat some enforcement of this kind of thing. So far the only enforcement I ahve seen out of them is them protecting those griefing us out of our HONESTLY earned L's. and BTW, I highly doubt anyone wants to tell me I cannot say what I ahve seen. Protection of the haves adn fleecing of the ahve nots. You know what? Move over old timers...there's a lot more of us newer folks and without us you'd go broke.

Now you will get my side of the story:

Stacey is referring to my games. Stacey is a long-time poor sport who consistently harasses other players and although I can't do anything about them, I get lots of complaints from other players about how she calls them names while they're trying to play my games.

Stacey is upset because she was unable to take advantage of an exploit that was found last night in one of my Video Keno machines. The exploit allowed someone who hit 0 numbers on a 15 number pick to win 10,000 credits (the highest amount possible). There is no question this was a flaw in my script -- I do not and have not denied this.

Another player noticed this flaw about 15 minutes before Stacey even thought about playing this game, and notified me about it. I was unable to log in immediately as I was not at home when I received the notification. I asked him to put blocks over my games so that they couldn't be played, but by that time, Stacey had already taken a keen interest in the game and was only playing 15-number picks. He warned her that it was a flaw and that I was on my way. She kept playing.

I finally got home, immediately logged in and removed the machines. Stacey was upset because she hadn't been able to cash out her exploit winnings. I sent her L$10k for her trouble and asked her for about the 10th time (she has other alts that I will name for anyone who wishes to know in-world) never to play my games again.

I have always operated this way -- I pay people lots of money in bug finder's fees when they find bugs and report them to me. I am not in the habit of paying anyone anything if they are visibly trying to use an exploit. I guess Stacey expected me to just sit back and allow her to drain my account.

I have other witnesses during this that can attest to the fact that the winnings she claims she has a right to were gotten through the exploit and not through a posted, legitimate win. I have never even thought of not paying legitimate wins.

If anyone has any further questions for me, please feel free to ask. I'm happy to answer what I can.

I've long wondered why we don't have some sort of player run Better Business Bureau or Consumer Reports? Would make sence that with all the potential bad business that we'd have a place to voice complaints.

As far as I can figure it, mostly because nobody wants to do that much work as a total charity. It would be great if one evolved, though! Are you up for making one?

Hi Kaboom. No, she was playing a L$10 machine which means if she had actually gotten a jackpot, it would have been L$100k. I have her L$10k, which was way more than she had won on the machine without the exploit, but still not what she would have gotten if she had gotten the jackpot.

Yes it does. ALmost as bad as jacking prices on freebies adn reselling them to unsuspecting folks.LOL

I am up for funding ( well i got a few Ls lol) and making one of em, its about time we starting doing stuff like this for ourselves.

Now you will get my side of the story:

Stacey is referring to my games. Stacey is a long-time poor sport who consistently harasses other players and although I can't do anything about them, I get lots of complaints from other players about how she calls them names while they're trying to play my games.

Stacey is upset because she was unable to take advantage of an exploit that was found last night in one of my Video Keno machines. The exploit allowed someone who hit 0 numbers on a 15 number pick to win 10,000 credits (the highest amount possible). There is no question this was a flaw in my script -- I do not and have not denied this.

Another player noticed this flaw about 15 minutes before Stacey even thought about playing this game, and notified me about it. I was unable to log in immediately as I was not at home when I received the notification. I asked him to put blocks over my games so that they couldn't be played, but by that time, Stacey had already taken a keen interest in the game and was only playing 15-number picks. He warned her that it was a flaw and that I was on my way. She kept playing.

I finally got home, immediately logged in and removed the machines. Stacey was upset because she hadn't been able to cash out her exploit winnings. I sent her L$10k for her trouble and asked her for about the 10th time (she has other alts that I will name for anyone who wishes to know in-world) never to play my games again.

I have always operated this way -- I pay people lots of money in bug finder's fees when they find bugs and report them to me. I am not in the habit of paying anyone anything if they are visibly trying to use an exploit. I guess Stacey expected me to just sit back and allow her to drain my account.

I have other witnesses during this that can attest to the fact that the winnings she claims she has a right to were gotten through the exploit and not through a posted, legitimate win. I have never even thought of not paying legitimate wins.

If anyone has any further questions for me, please feel free to ask. I'm happy to answer what I can.

I'll pick apart this pack of lies.

First of all I would expect nothing less from this guy then to attepmt to cover his ass after robbing me of $350 dollars.

I have no alts. This is a free account and I have no intentions of paying lindens any more money as I don't appreciate the fact they allow griefers and blatent cheaters like the one refrenced in this post.

I played his keno game before the other guy he's refering to ever touched it. I didn't win so I went and played another game for a few minutes. Then I decided to try Keno again.

I used NO exploit or was I aware of one either. The other guy playing another keno machine hit a jackpot as well, but as that was only a 10k jackpot he was paid. He his on a 1 dollar machine I hit on a 10.

He claims it paid on zero hits. This is not the case as I hit zero #'s on previous occasions and received no credits for it.

The only whitnesses there were the other guy playing (which he stated him and Tony are good friends) and another girl that saw the whole thing and said she would stand witness.

I had been playing the game for a good 30 minutes before I hit jp. Then the other guy (tony's pal) said while it was counting off credits he was calling tony.

Also I've never 'called people names' unless names were called me first. I usually talk to noone when I play games. I've been harassed on a couple occasions by others while playing his games and if there's any truth to his statement I imagine it's this one guy that would always get pissed when I was winning Bingtris.

Now to finish off tonight I received an IM from him here's the contents...

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I didn't misunderstand, I just didn't agree. My statement applies generally, it was a response to many similar sentiments expressed in these forums, not just that one.
Have a look at my join date. I'm pretty new too. In fact, a lot newer than you. I've never felt limited by that, and I'm just finishing up a project working alongside far older, more experienced builders. Not once have I felt looked down upon, or 'viewed as an unskilled newbie". They complimented me on my work, even though I was more in awe of theirs, and even rated me for build. I didn't get paid like a newbie either.
My point was simply this: If you view yourself as limited, controlled by the will of others, then you will be.
Don't give up, keep working your butts off, people will notice. And remember, sometimes it's not just the quality of your work, it's also how you market it, how you conduct yourself (and I am by no means suggesting you are necessarily deficient in these areas), and the strength of your own will.
The 'old timers' I've met seem to give credit where credits due, and I think most of them are confident enough of their own abilities to be able to acknowledge the work of another, regardless of their join date.

as i am typing this, stacy black is at "chaos theory gaming" in-world playing Tony's games.
(bingtris to be exact)

if someone "robbed me of $350" i certainly wouldnt patron their games/casinos.

The California Gambling Commission has no real interest in the regulation of virtual currency in a place that doesn't technically exist in the real world.

Although it could be argued that a casino deals itself in "virtual currency", these are legally-redeemable chips with a fixed value. the Linden Dollar has no fixed value, in fact no "real" value whatsoever; there's simply a high enough demand for it that it floats its own perceived value.

i play tonys games daily. i win thousands upon thousands at a time. 10k, 20k, 30k is par.

obviously i dont win daily, but i win enough to pay 100% of my SL spending/tier and a few RL bills monthly.

tony has been in SL and an upstanding businessman longer than anyone posting in this thread (except lordfly).

ms. black and her many alts (cant control herself well enough to hide their identities) are constantly an issue, both to the community at large and to the various liason lindens. i have had several personal experiences with all of her.

shes the kind of person you like to get riled up because youre bored. kinda like the neighborhood dog when you were a kid.

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Now to finish off tonight I received an IM from him here's the contents...

Tony Tigereye: (Saved Sun Mar 26 13:35:01 2006) i'm putting you on mute now. this is the last alt of yours i am asking not to play my games anymore. i am not required to tell you any more, no matter what alt you use, that i don't want you playing my games.
Tony Tigereye: (Saved Sun Mar 26 13:35:48 2006) and you're wrong about the laws. go ahead and notify them. i'm sure they'll find you to be the stupid cunt i find you to be.

i find this statement very odd, although I'm sure you've had experiences that led to this impression. However, as a counter example, one of my favorite builder teams in SL right now is rez menoptra and endira udal. They joined at the very end of 2005 and immediately got attention out of the sheer quality of their builds. I discovered them because other builders I know were psyched to see such great new talent working in SL.

Anyone who judges quality based on how long someone has been in SL versus what they've actually created, probably can't build worth a damn themselves.

I'm sorry but the only place I've seen you is your name on the bingtris board. I'm guessing you're one of Tony's alts as NOONE wins 10 20 and 30k on his games on a normal basis. The only place those kind of winnings happen often is bingtris, which is not a payout from tony's bankroll, rather the amount of money paid by all people playing. Tony is far from the 'upstanding businessman'. He constantly rips people off. You don't get several million lindens like he (or you I should say) has in this game by being honest. So if you're not one of Tony's alts I'm curious how much he paid you to defend him in this thread. His true colors are out in the light of day now, and I can only imagine he's thinking of any way he can to make himself look like an angel.

I'll pick apart this pack of lies.

good job on posting IM chat logs. that is a violation.

as i am typing this, stacy black is at "chaos theory gaming" in-world playing Tony's games.
(bingtris to be exact)

if someone "robbed me of $350" i certainly wouldnt patron their games/casinos.

Yep you're correct I'm playing bingtris because it's an 11k pot. Unlike tony's (your) other games, this is not a casino type. The jackpot if player funded as opposed to being funded by you.

I'm getting quite tired of people claiming I'm the alt of other players. If I do or do not have any alts it's no business of any of tony's friends that he's obviously pointed here to defend him. Of course sensual would defend him as she makes 1000's off his games by hosting them. So of course her interests are to defend him. Also I find it amusing the others defending him are part of sensual's group. So naturally they'd be benefited as well.

So just because tony posted here what he say's is fact huh? I was honest in my post. His was completly twisted. He robbed me of 100k lindens end of story. I will be contacting the California Gaming Commission to see if this situation qualifies. I don't forsee me getting my 100k from this cheat, but I do hope me contacting the comission does bring some government eyes into this game. There's FAR to much cheating going on which Linden turns a blind eye to.

And if I'm such a bad sport I'd suggest you speak with Smuk Zaftig. He's beat me several times and often for 10+k jackpots after which we've joked about it via in game IM's. He's the only other player of Bingtris I really speak with.