Censorship going a little TOO far?

Mom!!! Someone said something less than adulatory about Anshee!!!!!

You could not be more wrong. I always spend effort to improve land I buy. Instead of putting ugly spinning rotating signs with sex adverts on barren land I invest time to create best landscape the restrictions in the sim allow for: waterfronts, islands and vegetation. Where you took your pictures the same vegetation is applied in 2 whole sims, not just on some spots that you call "marsh", but everywhere. So would you suggest that I am also try to hide the more desirable terrain with ferns?

Nobody who buys land has to delete all the vegetation. In fact, many people are happy to build their house between the trees. Even if not: land usually remains unsold for some time, often for several weeks and thus at least during that time the sim looks better. I remember when people flamed me for "ruining landscape" by put too many sale signs on land. Now I spend many hours to improve landscape. Where is the appreciation? Instead I get flamed for improve the land. You really want me to put all land for sale in the worst possible state, just to make it impossible for some buyer to make it look worse? I really don't understand you.

Here is one picture that shows Anshe land left and competitor land right. You choose yourself what you want land for sale to look like!

Result of hard work improving sims:

Land of competitors spending less effort:

May I ask you if you made the referenced post as Anshe Chung resident of SL, or as a representative of AnsheCorp?

If it was the former, I have no comment.

If it was the latter I'll note that not only is it terribly bad form for any business to disparage their competitors, it is also kind of scummy. Business commentators and experts have long known that it is only the second tier players in a market to point out the failings of their competiors as not only does it call attention to their secondary status but it also raises awareness that the second tier firm also perceives themselves to be so. It also has the fault of giving publicity to the leader. A classical example of this is that Coca-Cola® advertisements never mention Pepsi®, whereas Pepsi often touts their "superiority" to Coke. Also, could you please post the locations where your images were taken as I believe that they are photoshop alterations and do not fairly represent any of the properties?

Question: Why is ok for Anshe to post pictures of competitor land (so that anyone could go and look and find out who they are) and then she can call her competitor "lazybone", but we are not allowed to critique Anshe's practices? Seems like a double standard to me, or am I missing something?

Well, after one competitor here accuse me of "low marketing practise" I call the horse by its name. I actually spend effort to improve the SL landscape, while many others don't.

And, yes, when I post here I speak as member of the community. If I would play "Anshecorp representative" I would make myself rare and not post at all.

Nope.

lol you had better teach this to Bill Gates, Scott McNealy, Larry Ellison, and many other leaders in the tech community. Sometimes they pick on competitors by name, sometimes by broad implication. It can be obnoxious, but it can also be quite entertaining. I've never thought of it as scummy -- just the particular way they want to play the PR game.

There's a big difference between getting 50 spam mails a day and someone mail bombing a box. Try a few million emails an hour or as much as your pop3 server will handle before it kills your email from receiving any more. Never underestimate the power of a griefer. Granted, they could use a decent server code to auto-filter any such attempt. I've written a few myself. But its hard to do if the attack is made from within SL (it is very possible, won't go into specifics for obvious reasons) without cutting all IMs-to-Email which kinda defeats the purpose of having them in the first place.

I'm not saying I have an issue with you doing so Anshe. I'm just saying if you are allowed to do it, then others should be allowed to as well.

One thing I am trying to get clarification on with regard to forum policy, is whether or not we can point out dissatisfaction with Businesses, as long as it is the business we are focusing on and not an individual person.

Personally I think that should be allowed. No matter who the business is. And apparently it *is* allowed, due to the many posts I see that claim dissatisfaction (as well as posts with praise) with GOM, IGE, and various other SL businesses. If an individual uses their name for their business, I do not think that should make them exempt from critiques of dissatisfaction, as long as it is clear that it is the *business* being discussed, and not an *individual*. However, some clarification from the Lindens on this issue would be helpful.

Since I have not read the other thread before it was deleted it is very hard for me comment. But in general, if you search for my name in these forums you will find many posts where people freely expressed their opinions, also about my business. The only posts I have seen moderated sofar contained direct personal attacks or were clearly intended to be damaging, rather than to constructively address one issue.

I've seen others go *poof* but I'm not allowed to say that.

You know maybe we are placing blame on the wrong people. Why did LL make those crappy looking sims to begin with?


AnsheChung.com seems to be trying to fix up something that is a lost cause, while others are just letting it stand. Why in the hell would anyone want to buy land on those sims? They make the snow sims seem like a rent controlled Apartments with a view of the Park (maybe only New Yorkers will get that one).

/me drools

I really wish new SLers were taught right away, before they have a chance to buy land, about terraforming limits and how to turn off trees and all that. Good thing Lisse is teaching again.

Haven't gone to see the land in question at the outset of this thread, so I'm not going to speak to that. I did want to say, though, I really appreciate the way Anshe reforested Grindlewald recently. After my wonderful neighbor Joey moved away, I was afraid that much of the sim would be left looking like a vast barren tundra covered with spinning sale signs that'd attract black box clubmallasinos or massive glow-in-the-dark purple cinderblock mansions with red ban lines. It was a huge relief to see Anshe pacing back and forth with her tree planting wand. Took her a long time . . . I was surprised by that. Anyway, some great neigbhbors have been moving in, the sim looks better than ever, and we're gonna have a block party. The remaining forest is wonderful -- my friends and I go for rides through it on Dee MacLean horses, and I recently discovered wild Starax-built penguins roaming in the woods!

I'm no great fan of palm-covered islands, marshy or not, but thank you, Anshe, for the forest in Grindlewald.

/me looks at her glorious view of the airshaft.

I have always strongly recomended new players that they first take a "first land" for 2 reasons. It gives good practice what terraform can/cannot do and also can play with other land options. Secondly one can make a small profit with the land, helping fund the purchase of the next land.

What comes to ppl wanting to buy land, it is strongly recomended to ask questions before buying. Often an experienced landowner can tell if the land will be what the buyer is looking for. Sometimes small tricks like switching off builds or trees help seeing what the land is under builds.

I get quite a few questions about land daily. I try to reply them as well as I can, but my opinion is just an opinion ( which I also point out).

Not photoshopped at all. Those are real pics of the surroundings. And I see both sides of their marketing efforts...one is making it more appealing to the eye...the other is leaving it barren for the builder to decide. One is "marketing" the land, the other is selling the land with less effort. And, being as they are right next door to each other...and if you look at the big map, you'll see they are in the lake there...does it matter they one has trees and one does not?

It's watery land. It's beautiful, IF that is what you are looking for...

Trees is nice, but this IS overkill... I bought newbie land on Ellis Island long ago...and the vegetation was there, but you could walk thru it and see the land beneath the trees. That is NOT the case here.

The barren land feels a little more "honest" to me.

Well I personally prefer seeing what the LAND actually looks like, instead of being HIDDEN by strategically placed foliage. I know a lot of people who feel the same.

Perhaps then, a campaign is needed to get LL to stop planting strategically placed foliage on all new land.

But, Anshe said she did the landscaping??



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I'm speaking of the 'foliage overkill' as shown above...

No I don't think its fair to differenciate between residents placing foliage to make land more attractive, and LL placing foliage to make land more attractive. I think that in all fairness to the issue, one must be either for, or against, foliage.

I think the Lorax is going to take some issue with this....