How to profit off land swoopers

and keep in mind that when we buy a plot of land that we pay the land tier on this land for who knows how long. Buyers wont take that into consideration if they see that you purchased low. Land values change and is effected by many things, the changing surroundings, L value ect. Putting a price history is just a silly idea that will never happen.

exactly

people just generalize about things and their idiots for doing so. THeirs the buy cost, tier fees, time spend with possible clients... it all COSTS somewhere

imagine if the entire free world (REAL LIFE that is) started posting manufacturing costs. Would you REALLY buy a $60,000 Escalade if you knew the manufacturing cost was $5,672??

Sure you wouldnt, but you wouldnt take into accounting the manhours put into it, delivery costs, inventory cost, etc. Oh and GOD FORBID a little profit to enjoy some of the finer things in life.

Go buy an economics book people

I'd personally like to commend those who resist the temptation to profit off of others' mistakes. I recently made a stupid error in pricing my land -- I'm still kicking myself, because I know better -- and realized immediately what I'd done when five agents suddenly appeared on my lot, but it was too late.

I congratulated the lucky winner, and asked if there was a chance she had any ethics. She asked how much I'd intended to sell it for, checked her history, and promptly resold the land back to me for what she'd paid for it.

I thanked her and told her I'd remember her for it, and so I'm posting this note here.

For what it's worth, it seems there should be some way to better see what you're selling land for. I think it's the missing comma or something that throws people off, but ultimately I know it's my responsibility to be careful. I do know that SL let's you do a "Join land" function on real estate that is listed for sale, and that certainly contributes to some of the errors. When the parcels join, one inherits the properties of the other, including it's sale price. That's a GUI issue, in my opinion.

- Rachel Darling

PS the ethical realtor was Sunnyland. Thank you again; you're OK by me.

This is usually why I buy products AND services from those that do not advertise heavily. Keeps my costs down low and helps out the little guys.

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It takes one person hitting the find/search button at the wrong time. And if you get someone new like that, you could get some whiplash.

and your right... the join land thing is a bug and very well should be corrected. That IMO is tkaing advantage.

but if someone lists land for public at $1, no ones responsible for that but the person who set it, and ethics or not thats a valid transaction in accords with the TOS.

I've bought $1 land before... i've given it back before, and i've kept it before. I always give back if it was a land join issue because i think thats taking too much advantage - its not noted anywhere and does not confirm a price. However some people REALLY do sell for $1 on purpose. Dumping tier, quitting the game, pissing off their group, etc. I've seen it all.

If you do screw up and someone buys your $1 land... only thing I can say is be polite. If your rude, from my dealings, you dont get it back. I can understand a lil rudeness, but when talk progresses dont keep calling someone a thief - they didnt steal it they BOUGHT it, and the person who set it is the idiot. I personally love when people call me a thief, say their calling a Linden and all that jazz, and dont listen to what I'm telling them. When they dont listen and continue their rudeness, no they dont get the land back. I wait for the live help they do nothign, I wait for the Linden, they do nothing. I proved my point, their lands listed for sale.

Oh and OBVIOUSLY dont say "aw shit someone stole my land" then say "screw it keep it" because thats just an invite to keep the land from previous owners permission.

that it does... and if someone REALIZES your baiting for people... good f'ing luck. Your land WILL be gone and dont expect any sympathy from anyone when you lose it.

example you are baiting a few times. Well people in the land business generally arent stupid. Bait a few times your gonna piss someone off. When pissed off they'll make SURE they grab your land on your next attempt to bait. Your out your land you come to the forums to post your sob story... then the person who GOT you land says "well they asked for it, they baited a 1024 for $1 3 times, on the 4th bait attempt I got it, so you asked for it buddy"

So go ahead and bait... when you lose it dont cry about it because you asked for it... someone can still buy land hovering above your bait spot at 10,000m or even from the next sim over disabling camera constraints

Huh? If I want an Escalade I don't care how much it cost to make it. Talk about a need to buy an economics book. People buy what they want especially since we're only talking about a couple of real US dollars.

If buyers knew the history, of course they are going to make generalizations about land dealers and how much profit they are making....how is that any different from what happens today?

Seen any signs recently like "Have you hugged your land dealer today?" I've been here a couple of months now, and I haven't seen any.

Quote of the day: "Shine a little light in a dark and dirty room....and watch the cockroaches scatter". If that doesn't describe you, then you have nothing to worry about from my silly suggestion.


--Ham

People dont just buy what they want in sl! People are cheap, and many just dont have the means. Ive had someone make me give a demo and haggle over a 100l item. If people were to see what you had purchased for they may feel they are being taken advatage of and not purchase despite the teir youve paid or time you put into developing the area.

*makes mental note to create "Have you hugged your land dealer today?" signs when SL returns

and you can turn on that light... I'll stand tall and give you the finger for waking me up Anyone has anything to say about me they can say it. I stand behind everything I do.

And I also sure hope you dont pay sticker price at a car dealership... if you do hey i got a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell your for L$30000

I have no problem with dealers making an honest business and yes I have seen the cheapness that you are talking about. But I've also seen people shell out 350L bucks for a copy of hoochie hair and lots of moola for an outfit without even thinking about it. It is all in what they want.

Ok...don't like my idea? Let's modify it some. Instead of the sale history being a sink for Lindens, make it a income generator for the current owner. You want to see my sales history of my land, it will cost you $100L per peek (we'll call it a title search!!). Eventually if you get enough peekers, you won't have to worry about how much it cost you.

--Ham

Phew.. another hot day.. blah..

To the topic at hand, while I applaud your seemingly honerable intentions, but I'd much rather see development issues focused on fixing all the bugs in this virtual world as a primary task. Seriously, I can't believe the grid is still down after such a long 'preview' of this new update. *sighs*

ya sure the idea of a "title search" would be interesting. that way you, and only you im sure, would pay and run around doing title searchs.

do you honestly think someone looking at my land really gives a rats ass what *I* paid for it? Hell no... they know i paid less and thats all that matters. From my consumer view, what I paid for the land is none of their concern... period.

Why do title searches exist in real life real estate? To track land value... do you really thing thats needed inside SL? SL Land Value is in the eye of the purchaser, whereas land value deemed in the real world is deemed by Real Estate Appraisers (trained, qualified, and certified to do so also).

You don't like the way land works, cool.... dont buy any or just rent. Or maybe even a more crazy idea... ASK THE PERSON what he paid. If they dont laugh at you first, ya never know maybe you'll get an answer.

Your lil theory is useless... period. The solution to "swoopers" is already in place, its called the CONFIRMATION screen. If everyone would read it before confirming, mistakes are avoided.

My quote of the day "Stupidity on your part is no excuse for me"

Read??? Surely you jest. Why would we want someone to do that?

well it would save me time so i dont have to argue with the idiot whos $1 8192 I just bought

and a sales history would show that you did the right thing by selling it back to him for 1$ and then purchasing it for a reasonable price. I think we're on the same page.

ok lets say for example the above was true and i got an 8192 for L$1

how the fuck do YOU KNOW it was an error? What if I traded someone an 8192 elsewhere? your "title search" idea would show the 8192 sold for $1, where in reality i traded his 8192 for one of mine.

or another legitamate scenario - guys dumping land to quit SL, sells all his holdings for $1

you are thinking one specific scenario, not the whole picture proving to thread readers your nuts.

we're no where NEAR the same page, you keep tossing out moronic ideas. The current way its set up works fine, they only other thing to do is make a flashing RED banner for the idiots to say "READ THIS IM SERIOUS READ IT OR YOU'LL DIE"

come up with an idea that doesnt lead to an assumption, cause we ALL KNOW what it means to ASSUME - YOU MAKE AN ASS OUT OF U AND ME (well in your case YOU and YOU, because no one makes me look like an ass)

uhmm, it was only one idea refactored. but here's another. Take a chill pill dude.

ur the one thinking you have a solution... i know the solutions already in place so now that your off the subject you can go back to your regularly scheduled nothingness

Nope, sorry you misunderstood. I made a suggestion to make the "how to profit off swoopers" type of threads go away. You don't have to like, which you obviously don't, but I think you are protesting a little hard.

In my book, someone who do not return land that has been set for sale by mistake, and a person who tries to trick people into buying more expensive land ( like the thread starter) are similar lowlifes.
Both are taking advantage of another persons mistake.

I even find it quite hard that some people seems to think this is a cool thing; same people who cuss at land grabbers. Good example of double moral.

Agreed. It doesn't matter who is doing it, buyer or seller.