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Dmitri Polonsky
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03-25-2006 00:23
From: ReserveBank Division Dmitri:
Stop being a broken record for the media, do your research.
Offshoring is GOOD FOR AMERICA because it creates jobs.
And not Mcdonalds jobs, but good high paying jobs.
If you paid under $1000 for a nice Flat Screen Monitor,
you can thank offshoring. Instead of $10,000 if it was made
in America. And guess what, that $9000 you saved, you can
now spend it elsewhere in the economy. And guess what? Your
ability to spend more elsewhere employs more people. As such,
offshoring is Good. Protectionism is Bad... ...and BTW...tell me how it makes jobs? You jstu put about 1500 pl out of work for a higher wage sending that job overseas. Now you gotta pump gas for a living ofr minimum wage..with inflaction as high as it is and the poor bearing the burden on taxes..no one here has the extra 1000 top cut loose for that monitor...gime a break. LMFAO |
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Dmitri Polonsky
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03-25-2006 00:37
From: Liberty Tesla Welcome to the Forums, Vasudha.
Respectfully, I think you're pursuing the wrong course if you're trying to build up low-skill jobs. The real answer is to build up the skills of the user-base. Hire a good technical writer and a good course-designer, and work out web- or SL-based training in basic SL usage, building, texturing, scripting, and animation. By building up the users' skill-set, you not only open up job opportunities for them, you make it more likely to 'buy into' SL, invest time and effort in it, the same way some people throw themselves into power-levelling or crafting in MMORPGs.
I can understand LL wanting to farm out a lot of functions to users, but punting on documentation and traiing is really not a viable option. It's in LL's corporate best interest to have a *strong* educational component, and Philip should be prepared to break out the checkbook to pay for it. Even if LL employees can't do the actual training -- teachers don't scale, it's true -- it would help enormously to have high-quality training materials, rather than just a couple of resident-maintained wikis.
(Not to dis the wikis, by the way. The LSL wiki is a work of art, and tremendously useful. I'm just saying that LL really shoud be picking up more of the load here.)
I'd also second some of the calls here for better object and land permissions, along with improvements to the group tools to better support collaboration and business arrangements (e.g., better control over the disbursement of group funds, more levels of membership, etc.).
Education and infrastructure, not make-work or subsidy; that's the way to go. Actually you are right to some degree, although I don't see LL ever cutting out stipend witout cutting it's own throat..not without the minimu pay requirements and minimum hours offerrd and enforcement thereof...a virtual nightmare BTW, in world courts.....pay and job offers being recorded as some form of contract..figuring out penalties and such for such matters....also the civil litigation involved and suits for unfair pay practices by employers...hey....we're turing this into RL at this point. IT ain't worth it. The best way to go about it is as you say...better training tools....better trainers....offgerring some form of incentives to fledging businesses, and agani get these ppl that are screaming about a stupid 50 L stipend which doesn't amount to a hill of beans to stop.....shut them up adn ask them to contructively help the economy thrive instead of lining thier own pockets and putting blame elsewhere. Sure the old timers know what theya re doing....but alot of them have killed potentially every chance the new folks have. If they wanna help stimulate the economy they gota help these new ppl thrive. Linden has to as well..instead of caterring to the who stockpiles L's adn resells them mrket. get rid of stipend you lose a lot of basics who might go premium....then the in world economy falters as newbie and basics are the one who do the vast majority of buying..at that point the money mongers don't ahve anyone buying thier L's as ppl are leaving in droves to go back to active worlds..which really sucks BTW graphically and support if anything is even worse than here. But still you don't have to buy land there..tehre is no in world cash. And that is the major reason they still ahve a thriving base of customers. Because you want land there you go grab it..you want walls you go get them. You jsut cna't ake all the nifty little toys we have. But the lack of simulation dollars sure is nice. |
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kerunix Flan
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Join date: 3 Sep 2005
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03-25-2006 02:02
Do like in france : - Cut the stipend - give the money saved on stipend to some company - the company can hire people - the company have "free" worker, and the unemployement % is low. - "everybody should be happy" Sound ridiculous, huh ?  |
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,760
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03-25-2006 02:39
From: Dmitri Polonsky ...and BTW...tell me how it makes jobs? I will. Consider two countries A + B, and two goods, say steel and wood. If country A has a lower opportunity cost for producing steel, it has comparitive advantage. If country B has a lower opportunity cost for producing wood, it has comparative advantage. If both countries specialize in the good in which they have comparative advantage, and trade, they can produce more of their respective goods. Therefore more jobs. (University was a long time ago, so feel free to correct me if I muddled any of that) Edit: When it comes to free trade, the US talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk. |
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
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03-25-2006 02:49
From: ReserveBank Division What country is that? France? Because I know
you couldn't in a million years be refering to America.
With its 4.8% Unemployment, 1,000,000-2,000,000
new jobs each year being created, rising standard of
living year over year, etc...
As for the French... 10% Unemployment, A meer
8,000 new jobs created in 2004, riots over the govt
giving industry the ability to layoff workers... Man,
talk about a rough economy... The French are Screwed. France's unemployment rate is actually twice that (the official rate doesn't count temporary workers' unemployed days nor people who stopped looking for a job and live on pure welfare). There were 0 jobs created since 1997. I know, I live there. Yes we are screwed, and I feel like living in pre-1989's East Germany. The protests are over treating people under 26 as a seperate, disadvantaged class of workers. I wouldn't call US' economy that successful though, especially when compared to Ireland's.
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
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03-25-2006 02:59
From: kerunix Flan Do like in france : - Cut the stipend - give the money saved on stipend to some company - the company can hire people - the company have "free" worker, and the unemployement % is low. - "everybody should be happy" Sound ridiculous, huh ? The true french way, as applied everyday under my very eyes, is: - have 20% of all residents employed by LL, pay them lots of L$ whether they login or not, promise to continue paying them for twelve years after they stop working - tax all residents for half of whatever they earn - use that tax money to subsidize some residents' employing of newbies and pay LL's inworld workers - seize 60% of everything owned by Anshe Chung (before she flees to There or EVE or Entropy Project)
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Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
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Jopsy Pendragon
Perpetual Outsider
Join date: 15 Jan 2004
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03-25-2006 03:20
Welcome Vasudha. I hope you're still following this thread, despite the derailments. My first question to your thread topic: Who will be the employer? Case 1 - Linden Labs as "in-world" employer: If LL intends to be an in-world employer, AND you feel that stipends are a problem, then the solution I'd love to see would be: non-transferable Tier credits. With the current land surplus, allowing some players the ability to accumulate and expend tier wavers in order to hold their land makes perfect sense to me. It provides something of value to a citizen, doesn't devalue the L$, and costs nothing extra to Linden Labs. The citizen still needs to aquire enough L$ (or pay US$) to acquire land in the first place. What better way to reward people for efforts that benefit Linden Labs than that?  Case 2: SecondLife Citizens as Employer: .. well, I'm completely out of my depth. I don't make enough in SL to pay for my own costs, much less anyone else's. You have the numbers in front of you telling you who holds the biggest businesses in SecondLife... I can only assume you're initiating private conversations with them to determine what things they might be willing to expend some of their profits for, in terms of in-world assistance. *IF*, as was mentioned earlier, this thread exists because you're interested in ways to replace the stipends with new sources of funding for the masses in Second Life... then I have some concerns. If stipends are reduced or eliminated:1) Would you expect the default tier allocation for premium accounts to INCREASE to compensate for the loss? 2) What 'new citizen' incentives and hooks will LL deploy to replace the loss of basic stipends? Marketing only entices new citizens so far. After they arrive, LL's biggest challenge is getting a new player to make their FIRST cash transaction, either buying a premium account or L$'s on the LindeX. SecondLife is just strange enough that new players really do require an effective 'free sample' to see if it's right for them or not. (one possible hook would be to grant new basic accounts a 512sqm probationary free tier allocation (starting at first time of first land purchase and lasting 2 months?). They would still have to come up with enough L$'s to buy land, and for some that would be a sufficient push) 3) How will LL re-introduce the money that exits circulation via the remaining money sinks and left in the pockets of citizens that expire due to inactivity/cancellation? Anyway, I look forward to hearing your ideas and conclusions in the months to come. [For what it's worth, my background and involvement in SecondLife: I own/maintain a mostly non-profit SecondLife 'Self-Paced' learning resource and also a tourist destination. My 'business model' was strictly dwell based, but now includes some object/texture sales to make up for the change in dwell income. I've bought L$'s to buy land, sold L$'s to pay tier. For custom/commission works I usually prefer to trade rather than charge. To me SecondLife is primarily an art studio, a gallery, a classroom and a coffee shop. (I use it to create, display, teach and hang out with friends).] I believe that SecondLife will always be perceived as a game by some people. I think "some people" are the majority, now, and for some time to come. To me, it is an environment with competition, rules and victory conditions. It is also a place to learn, collaborate, relax and experiment. Calling it a "Game" (or not) is, to me, merely a marketing choice. Replace the word 'citizen' with 'player' above if you like.
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
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03-25-2006 04:13
If the stipend is cut there must be adequate compensation made (not an immediate one time money drop, a long term one) or the populace will drop to basic or off the map.. Suggestions: increased 'free' tier - give premium users 2536m2 (or more) free tier instea dof a stipend. Leaving first land at 512m2 will increase cash flow in the market as they buy more land.. cutting premuim costs: Lower premium (to say 4.95 a month for monthly, less for annual and quarterly) charges to adjust for the loss of the stipend. edit: From: someone I believe that SecondLife will always be perceived as a game by some people. I think "some people" are the majority, now, and for some time to come. To me, it is an environment with competition, rules and victory conditions. It is also a place to learn, collaborate, relax and experiment. Calling it a "Game" (or not) is, to me, merely a marketing choice. Replace the word 'citizen' with 'player' above if you like. Good view on the topic
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ReserveBank Division
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Join date: 16 Jan 2006
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03-25-2006 04:19
From: Selene Gregoire And just who is going to pay for me to move? YOU? Oh!... that's right... money grows on money trees in SL so it must be the same in RL.
And when you quote someone TRY not to quote them out of context the way you did my post.
BTW...I've lived in other states and in some larger cities as well. I own my own business and I work 7 days a week. I put in an average of 60 hours per week. While the city I live in may not be the size of NY, LA or some of the other highly overpopulated places, it is most defintately NOT a one stop sign town.
Someone needs to get a grip on reality and it isn't me. Then again, some people can't deal with reality and spend all thier time in fantasy worlds like SL.
You can take your condesending, holier-than-thou attitude and stuff it where the sun don't shine. Consider yourself whacked big time with my iggy stick. Dear Selene Gregoire: If you don't like the economic situation of your self-employment business, then it is your own fault for remaining in poverty. Those are the facts, jack. If you need money, move to where the money is.. If an immigrant can travel thousands of miles with only 2 nickels in their pocket, I'm sure you can make it to economic prosperity somewhere in America. Stop being lazy and move. |
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ReserveBank Division
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Join date: 16 Jan 2006
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03-25-2006 04:21
From: Dmitri Polonsky More political rhetoric...telly uo what. Why don't you stop believing everything they tell you, quit your job..go out adn try to find yourself a GOOD paying job with a HS education...it ain't gonna happen. Outsourcing is not only not good for the nation..or anything else for that matter..it is effectively killing the largest customer base for those companies doing the outsourcing. Thing is they are taking the typical american business stand point of looking a tthings quarterly. They need to look 20 years ahead. And you need to lok at something other than political propoganda and comic books and get a reality check. Dmitri: If all you have is a "High School" education and you want a "Good Paying Job", then I'm sorry. You are SOL... I recommend you go back to college, get a degree, and then you will be welcomed to the high paying job market. Sorry, the days of $100,000 factory workers is OVER.... It has been replaced by $100,000 Computer Experts. Either adjust to the marketplace, or be left behind. |
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ReserveBank Division
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Join date: 16 Jan 2006
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03-25-2006 04:24
From: Dmitri Polonsky ...and BTW...tell me how it makes jobs? You jstu put about 1500 pl out of work for a higher wage sending that job overseas. Now you gotta pump gas for a living ofr minimum wage..with inflaction as high as it is and the poor bearing the burden on taxes..no one here has the extra 1000 top cut loose for that monitor...gime a break. LMFAO Answer: Reread previous post Q) How many of those jobs will go to the smaller cities and towns? A) None. If you don't like it, MOVE. Otherwise remain poor. Your Choice. Pack your bags gas pumper and move to where the money is... Ohh, and pick up a degree, certificate, skill, somewhere in the process.. You will be rewarded for your hard work. Lazy people will continue to fail. If you know the money is in Internet Networking, I suggest you start working on getting that CCIE and/or Computer Science Networking Degree... Otherwise, repeat after me, "Would you like fries with that Sir" |
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Jesrad Seraph
Nonsense
Join date: 11 Dec 2004
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03-25-2006 05:18
From: Jopsy Pendragon 3) How will LL re-introduce the money that exits circulation via the remaining money sinks and left in the pockets of citizens that expire due to inactivity/cancellation? And more important yet: how will LL introduce enough L$ to match the economic / demographic growth ?
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Either Man can enjoy universal freedom, or Man cannot. If it is possible then everyone can act freely if they don't stop anyone else from doing same. If it is not possible, then conflict will arise anyway so punch those that try to stop you. In conclusion the only strategy that wins in all cases is that of doing what you want against all adversity, as long as you respect that right in others.
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
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03-25-2006 05:40
and the sinks
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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03-25-2006 07:56
From: ReserveBank Division Pack your bags gas pumper and move to where the money is... Care to share with us what you do in real life? Because I just have visions of you doing something entirely mundane, and you only live out some fantasy life here on the forums and in game - if you ever actually log in that is - to make yourself feel important. Yes, I would like fries. Thankyou for asking. Lewis |
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
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03-25-2006 08:50
From: Lewis Nerd Care to share with us what you do in real life? Because I just have visions of you doing something entirely mundane, and you only live out some fantasy life here on the forums and in game And what would be wrong with that? As valid a use for SL as any other. |
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
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03-25-2006 11:02
From: Shaun Altman I've bookmarked this thread for ressurection in March 2007. You're on (though if I'm badly wrong I may not be around to see you gloat). My biggest boner so far was predicting that Apple wouldn't produce a headless Mac a month before they announced the Mac mini. I was glad to be wrong that time.. |
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Enabran Templar
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03-25-2006 11:27
From: Lewis Nerd Care to share with us what you do in real life? Because I just have visions of you doing something entirely mundane, and you only live out some fantasy life here on the forums and in game - if you ever actually log in that is - to make yourself feel important. That's amazing. That's exactly how I've been describing you!
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From: Hiro Pendragon Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court.
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Ordinal Malaprop
really very ordinary
Join date: 9 Sep 2005
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03-25-2006 11:33
Hey, I like to log into Second Life to make me feel important.
I believe that RBD has previously said that he works some network monkey job; he's not Donald Trump. That's not a cause for criticism. If anything, not being Donald Trump is a good thing.
What is a cause for criticism is the nonsense that he spouts, but actually I now reckon he's a cunning satirist.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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03-25-2006 12:03
From: Enabran Templar That's amazing. That's exactly how I've been describing you! You're entitled to... however I don't pretend to be an 'authority' on a subject, and my 'mundane' real life work happens to be for a charity. Not the best paid but it is rewarding. Lewis |
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
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03-25-2006 12:29
From: Lewis Nerd I don't pretend to be an 'authority' on a subject... Actually you pretend to be an authority on what 'the game' is and how we should all be 'playing it'. You also claim to represent "99%" of 'players', which would be scarey if it were true. You expect us all to tread the path of St Lewis of the Immaculate Content. |
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Jahsun Manhattan
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Join date: 26 Mar 2005
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03-25-2006 15:37
From: Jopsy Pendragon Welcome Vasudha. I hope you're still following this thread, despite the derailments. My first question to your thread topic: Who will be the employer? Case 1 - Linden Labs as "in-world" employer: If LL intends to be an in-world employer, AND you feel that stipends are a problem, then the solution I'd love to see would be: non-transferable Tier credits. With the current land surplus, allowing some players the ability to accumulate and expend tier wavers in order to hold their land makes perfect sense to me. It provides something of value to a citizen, doesn't devalue the L$, and costs nothing extra to Linden Labs. The citizen still needs to aquire enough L$ (or pay US$) to acquire land in the first place. What better way to reward people for efforts that benefit Linden Labs than that? Case 2: SecondLife Citizens as Employer: .. well, I'm completely out of my depth. I don't make enough in SL to pay for my own costs, much less anyone else's. You have the numbers in front of you telling you who holds the biggest businesses in SecondLife... I can only assume you're initiating private conversations with them to determine what things they might be willing to expend some of their profits for, in terms of in-world assistance. *IF*, as was mentioned earlier, this thread exists because you're interested in ways to replace the stipends with new sources of funding for the masses in Second Life... then I have some concerns. If stipends are reduced or eliminated:1) Would you expect the default tier allocation for premium accounts to INCREASE to compensate for the loss? 2) What 'new citizen' incentives and hooks will LL deploy to replace the loss of basic stipends? Marketing only entices new citizens so far. After they arrive, LL's biggest challenge is getting a new player to make their FIRST cash transaction, either buying a premium account or L$'s on the LindeX. SecondLife is just strange enough that new players really do require an effective 'free sample' to see if it's right for them or not. (one possible hook would be to grant new basic accounts a 512sqm probationary free tier allocation (starting at first time of first land purchase and lasting 2 months?). They would still have to come up with enough L$'s to buy land, and for some that would be a sufficient push) 3) How will LL re-introduce the money that exits circulation via the remaining money sinks and left in the pockets of citizens that expire due to inactivity/cancellation? Anyway, I look forward to hearing your ideas and conclusions in the months to come. [For what it's worth, my background and involvement in SecondLife: I own/maintain a mostly non-profit SecondLife 'Self-Paced' learning resource and also a tourist destination. My 'business model' was strictly dwell based, but now includes some object/texture sales to make up for the change in dwell income. I've bought L$'s to buy land, sold L$'s to pay tier. For custom/commission works I usually prefer to trade rather than charge. To me SecondLife is primarily an art studio, a gallery, a classroom and a coffee shop. (I use it to create, display, teach and hang out with friends).] I believe that SecondLife will always be perceived as a game by some people. I think "some people" are the majority, now, and for some time to come. To me, it is an environment with competition, rules and victory conditions. It is also a place to learn, collaborate, relax and experiment. Calling it a "Game" (or not) is, to me, merely a marketing choice. Replace the word 'citizen' with 'player' above if you like. Ok, so usually I try to stay out of these discussions because I don't feel educated enough, and I am actually still a basic account and will remain one until I feel comfortable with building/scripting/creating. So here I sit feeling that possibly my input may actually be desirable, also noting the posts as to whether or not stipends should be removed. Personally I see the stipend as a form of "welfare" in the world of SL..lol. And the reason being is that it doesn't really amount to a whole lot(however if used properly to perhaps introduce new textures or perhaps artwork those RL artists out there) and well...ANYONE can get it. So yeah in that aspect I suppose the stipend is very useful. I personally can't live SL with just that 50L(well couldnt before...lmao...now I have a sexy sugar momma that buys me everything I could possibly need, however...I feel the need to find a way to make some real moola now)so if that was gone...well I honestly wouldn't miss it. If you really need L$'s go find money trees or get a job(which, yes honestly is severely missing thing in the SL world, jobs that is...you can find a money tree just about anywhere and utilize them if you are a newbie, which i personally have only taken a few L$'s from, and then realized I needed a job...so I did the whole dancer thing making 25L$'s an hour and eventually moved on to less mind numbing and boring things to do with my time)or hell....go find something fun to do...play some slingo or tringo...whatever...learn how to race at SMC, or race snails(my personal favorite thing to have done...lol)Anyway, there are fun things out there to do that you make way more from than your stipend...so maybe it SHOULD be done away with..leave the stipend for the premium members and they in turn can teach/employ us basic members, in turn possibly causing a significant change in the L$ to US$ value due to the fact that yes...as one Av...50$L means very little to me, however 50L$ spread over an average of(just a very wild estimate)1-2k active basic accounts...thats 50k-100kL$ which at GamerzFix rate(who I am personally very fond of selling to when I feel like selling)of $3.25/1000L$ block comes out to $162.50-325.00/week of inflation. And I'm not sure what that comes to in market value, but every little bit contributes. So maybe possibly it would be a better idea to have a temporary basic stipend of 50L$ for 2-6months for new basic accounts, and even better to have that 512sqM for a trial of 2 months after the initial purchase(which may in turn sold back to LL for fair market value if indeed this said AV decides they just don't want to rent this land). Personally, I would buy into this one..lol. Well anyway, I lost my train of thought, so i will close up my post. |
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Jahsun Manhattan
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Join date: 26 Mar 2005
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03-25-2006 15:41
P.S. For those of you that may think because I am still only a basic SL av that comes here to succeed in life....its actually the exact opposite, I succeed in life, have my own RL store and actually play SL while waiting for customers, PEACE!
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
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03-25-2006 16:02
I like that suggestion Jahsun It gives basics a taste of more than one aspect of premium.
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Selene Gregoire
Eyes of the Wolf
Join date: 14 Sep 2005
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03-25-2006 17:33
From: ReserveBank Division Dear Selene Gregoire:
If you don't like the economic situation of your self-employment business, then
it is your own fault for remaining in poverty. Those are the facts, jack.
If you need money, move to where the money is.. If an immigrant can travel
thousands of miles with only 2 nickels in their pocket, I'm sure you can make it
to economic prosperity somewhere in America. Stop being lazy and move. I'm supposed to close the doors on a business that isn't even old enough to start making a profit yet and move without a car, clothes, money, etc to a new location and live on the street to find a job? Man what planet are you living on? I bust my ass 7 days a week working to make my business a success and I'm lazy?? What kind of drugs are you on? Immigrants get money from the freakin government to help them get started but because I am a natural US citizen I don't quealify for that sort of assitance. I'd love it if the Us Governemtn gave me a car, a home and the money to start a business just like they give to immigrants. You think the government doesn't do this? Take a good look at what is going on in Oregon then. Immigrants have it made there. I'm not even going to waste my time answering anymore of your outrageous post since you obviously have no idea of what you are spouting. When you have experienced what I and many, many others have you MIGHT understand, but until then your mind will remain closed and you will continue to believe in your fantasy world of the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. |
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Selene Gregoire
Eyes of the Wolf
Join date: 14 Sep 2005
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03-25-2006 17:34
From: ReserveBank Division Dear Selene Gregoire:
If you don't like the economic situation of your self-employment business, then
it is your own fault for remaining in poverty. Those are the facts, jack.
If you need money, move to where the money is.. If an immigrant can travel
thousands of miles with only 2 nickels in their pocket, I'm sure you can make it
to economic prosperity somewhere in America. Stop being lazy and move. I'm supposed to close the doors on a business that isn't even old enough to start making a profit yet and move without a car, clothes, money, etc to a new location and live on the street to find a job? Man what planet are you living on? I bust my ass 7 days a week working to make my business a success and I'm lazy?? What kind of drugs are you on? Immigrants get money from the freakin government to help them get started but because I am a natural US citizen I don't qualify for that sort of assitance. I'd love it if the US Government gave me a car, a home and the money to start a business just like they give to immigrants. You think the government doesn't do this? Take a good look at what is going on in Oregon then. Immigrants have it made there. I'm not even going to waste my time answering anymore of your outrageous posts since you obviously have no idea of what you are spouting. When you have experienced what I and many, many others have you MIGHT understand, but until then your mind will remain closed and you will continue to believe in your fantasy world of the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. |
