Ok, I decided to jump in with the pirannahs today, and defend the issue at hand.
Why is everyone so upset about camping chairs? Do the camping chairs destroy the economy? I don't think so. The concept of the camping chairs don't destroy or even hurt the economy. If you look at it right, it was the dwell money that hurt a little, but think of this. The VGI group holds 27,000 Sqm of land split between 10 different sims. Each sim location is a VGI "Camping Casino." This type of camping system which was uniquely developed by VGI, links VGI's specially created "camping chairs" to games such as slot machines, and money doublers, and even card games. The base pay is set at L$3/10 min. and people actually come and play the games to win multipliers which increase the amount of money they earn every 10 minutes. Now I know that VGI is a highly advanced version of a casino and camping chairs mix, and really doesn't fit into the argument because only 15% of the people in a VGI casino are zombies. Lets look at an average daily payout, and then what a place gets from dwell money.
The VGI group totals in at about 200K total traffic rating or more per day. This brings in only L$3,500 a day from dwell for the group which is disbursed evenly to all 9 group members. Each VGI location averages about L$100,000 to L$400,000 in transactions a day. In the end, the VGI location owner makes about L$1,000 to L$4,000 a day. so about 1% of the daily transaction total is actually profit. And let me remind you all that this is all from gambling income, winnings, and camping chair payments.
Fortune casino closed down last year because of camping chairs, but it had a very high dwell rating at the time. 20 camping chairs paying steadily to leaches (Zombies) who sit, and don't play the casino games were totalling about L$6,000 a day. Now unless a place is generating over 400,000 traffic rating, they are running at a loss. Still think they use dwell money to pay the campers?
Why would you use camping chairs at your place of business? If you are running a casino, you would want the VGI camping casino system because people play the games to get more money. If you own a mall, you would probably use regular cheap camping chairs to generate the traffic of people who will buy stuff. Vendors look for places with high traffic ratings when they are looking to rent a vendor space. Around every VGI location, malls and stores pop up because people actually shop while they sit, play, and gamble. VGI does not currently offer vendor spaces at the locations, but soon will. Its part of business.
Camping chair money, or dirty money as some refer to it as, are in fact a quick and easy way for noobs to get first cash. Just like treasure hunts and money trees, except it takes longer. With this in place, we can eliminate the noobs stipend because there is no need for it anymore. The chairs have already integrated into SL, and clubs will lose money from loss of dwell money, but I think it will enter us into a new era of SL where business models change every 3-6 months.
SL is a perfect environment for virtual business, and testing different strategies for business and marketing along with learning how to move with the trends and adapt quickly to new ideas, and items. The game part is keeping ahead of the rest.
Ok, time to wrap it up... I think camping chairs do some good, though some bad comes out of it as well. If anything, camping loations should be banned from advertising "CAMPING" as an event. Camping Chairs offer a more robust customer group for vendors in places where they exist. The chairs are a content creation, and should still be respected as all other content in SL. Chairs are not a scam, as they are very strait forward. Suprisingly enough, I bet people would pay to sit at a camping chair location. VGI will never do that though. The chairs do not destroy the economy, the people looking to make RL money in a game from the start are the ones destroying the economy because they want to cash out quick, and put their money up for sale on the lindex at a lower price than everyone else to beat the system and cash out first (cutting in line). So before you continue to bash something. you better try it, and see what its really about! Wake up, smell the coffe, and stop grabbing your first idea and run with it. do some research and look at the entire picture.
As far as people not learning to build or script within the first 3 months or so because they go strait to camping chairs.. they are the ones who are just here for money. They may never contribute to SL in any positive manner. People who want SL for what it is, and not just to make money will always do so. It is up the individual to how they want to spend their life in SL. If they want to live as a zombi, then so be it.
I have talked enough. Now I will be eaten by the fishes......blub....
Why is everyone so upset about camping chairs? Do the camping chairs destroy the economy? I don't think so. The concept of the camping chairs don't destroy or even hurt the economy. If you look at it right, it was the dwell money that hurt a little, but think of this. The VGI group holds 27,000 Sqm of land split between 10 different sims. Each sim location is a VGI "Camping Casino." This type of camping system which was uniquely developed by VGI, links VGI's specially created "camping chairs" to games such as slot machines, and money doublers, and even card games. The base pay is set at L$3/10 min. and people actually come and play the games to win multipliers which increase the amount of money they earn every 10 minutes. Now I know that VGI is a highly advanced version of a casino and camping chairs mix, and really doesn't fit into the argument because only 15% of the people in a VGI casino are zombies. Lets look at an average daily payout, and then what a place gets from dwell money.
The VGI group totals in at about 200K total traffic rating or more per day. This brings in only L$3,500 a day from dwell for the group which is disbursed evenly to all 9 group members. Each VGI location averages about L$100,000 to L$400,000 in transactions a day. In the end, the VGI location owner makes about L$1,000 to L$4,000 a day. so about 1% of the daily transaction total is actually profit. And let me remind you all that this is all from gambling income, winnings, and camping chair payments.
Fortune casino closed down last year because of camping chairs, but it had a very high dwell rating at the time. 20 camping chairs paying steadily to leaches (Zombies) who sit, and don't play the casino games were totalling about L$6,000 a day. Now unless a place is generating over 400,000 traffic rating, they are running at a loss. Still think they use dwell money to pay the campers?
Why would you use camping chairs at your place of business? If you are running a casino, you would want the VGI camping casino system because people play the games to get more money. If you own a mall, you would probably use regular cheap camping chairs to generate the traffic of people who will buy stuff. Vendors look for places with high traffic ratings when they are looking to rent a vendor space. Around every VGI location, malls and stores pop up because people actually shop while they sit, play, and gamble. VGI does not currently offer vendor spaces at the locations, but soon will. Its part of business.
Camping chair money, or dirty money as some refer to it as, are in fact a quick and easy way for noobs to get first cash. Just like treasure hunts and money trees, except it takes longer. With this in place, we can eliminate the noobs stipend because there is no need for it anymore. The chairs have already integrated into SL, and clubs will lose money from loss of dwell money, but I think it will enter us into a new era of SL where business models change every 3-6 months.
SL is a perfect environment for virtual business, and testing different strategies for business and marketing along with learning how to move with the trends and adapt quickly to new ideas, and items. The game part is keeping ahead of the rest.
Ok, time to wrap it up... I think camping chairs do some good, though some bad comes out of it as well. If anything, camping loations should be banned from advertising "CAMPING" as an event. Camping Chairs offer a more robust customer group for vendors in places where they exist. The chairs are a content creation, and should still be respected as all other content in SL. Chairs are not a scam, as they are very strait forward. Suprisingly enough, I bet people would pay to sit at a camping chair location. VGI will never do that though. The chairs do not destroy the economy, the people looking to make RL money in a game from the start are the ones destroying the economy because they want to cash out quick, and put their money up for sale on the lindex at a lower price than everyone else to beat the system and cash out first (cutting in line). So before you continue to bash something. you better try it, and see what its really about! Wake up, smell the coffe, and stop grabbing your first idea and run with it. do some research and look at the entire picture.
As far as people not learning to build or script within the first 3 months or so because they go strait to camping chairs.. they are the ones who are just here for money. They may never contribute to SL in any positive manner. People who want SL for what it is, and not just to make money will always do so. It is up the individual to how they want to spend their life in SL. If they want to live as a zombi, then so be it.
I have talked enough. Now I will be eaten by the fishes......blub....
I'm not a creator or a scripter, etc. I'm simply someone who enjoys SL for the sake of friends who I've known for years in several games, the relaxation, just the fun of playing, exploring new builds, etc. After several months in game the "ooo factor" is still there for Me. I buy a few thousand $L periodically but it's not a habitual thing. For Me the camping chairs have almost ruined the enjoyment of shopping. I TP into a mall to find a dozen zombies in camping chairs. There is so much lag because of them that vendors won't even rez. I'm not waiting maybe 5 minutes between images on a vendor, I'm moving on to a less laggy mall. I hope the camping chairs and the associated zombies die a cruel ugly death. My advice to any content creator...if you want sales, place your wares where there are no camping chairs, otherwise I won't be seeing them at all.
