When will Linden labs perma ban the whiners?
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Kyrah Abattoir
cruelty delight
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04-29-2007 04:15
From: Tod69 Talamasca My 2 Cents: My PC RAWKS!!! 2 Ghz Dual Core, GeForce 8800 GTS, 2 Gig RAM, 4 Hard Drives. No complaints here other than SL doesnt take advantage of my Video Card! Dear LL: Please take advantage of my 8800!! Give me HDR Lighting!! Particles, physics & effects seen only in the latest & greatest PC Games!!! I'd even settle for graphics like in Elderscrolls  blivion!!!  i would love that too and full dual core support but low end cards won't like hdr :/ (me: athlon X2 4200+ 4Gb ram Gef.8800GTX)
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Inigo Chamerberlin
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Join date: 13 May 2006
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04-29-2007 04:31
From: Kyrah Abattoir However, the forum is hardly the place for complaining (about how SL suck, how linden labs are mean, hippies communists, etc...) last time i checked we have jira to report bugs and problems.
jira? Don't make me laugh! That thing is possibly usable by a very limited (fortunately) sort of person. It's laughably user un-friendly, confusing, over-complex (and I'm trying VERY hard here to avoid using works like 'geekish', 'techno-babble', etc). That isn't designed to provide a method of recording/submitting problems - it's a token so LL can say there's an issue reporting system. It actually functions as (yet another) barrier to normal residents communicating with LL. I did waste 10 minutes attempting to figure it out, but luckily don't possess the Teki-Wiki mindset required. Besides, after 10 minutes my brain began trickling gently from my ears... Anyway, why bother reporting anything? LL have made their 'FU' attitude to us perfectly plain. Come the competition, I'll make my attitude to them equally plain. So will rather a lot of others. Meantime we just have to put up with this. Philip once said 'Where IS the competition? I say - bring it on! I can't wait.' Words he may regret.
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Kyrah Abattoir
cruelty delight
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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04-29-2007 05:53
from the atlassion.com website:
"JIRA is a bug tracking, issue tracking, and project management application developed to make this process easier for your team. JIRA has been designed with a focus on task achievement, is instantly usable and is flexible to work with."
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Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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04-29-2007 09:29
From: Kyrah Abattoir from the atlassion.com website:
"JIRA is a bug tracking, issue tracking, and project management application developed to make this process easier for your team. JIRA has been designed with a focus on task achievement, is instantly usable and is flexible to work with." The very first sentence of that definition says it all. It's a system designed for a TEAM. A system to make work easier for a TEAM. It's techie. It's geeky. It's almost useless to the average user. LL wants us to help them solve their problems so they give us this JIRA which most can't figure out well enough to even fill in the information. So the system will never work......just too technical for the vast majority of us. If LL wants our help they need give us a method we can understand and use.........then, of course, respond to us. They don't have any of that. And as far as I can tell they have no intention of providing anything either. But, I'm whinning again...........LOL
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Vale Vieria
The Devil Herself
Join date: 8 Feb 2007
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04-29-2007 12:10
From: Kyrah Abattoir
...Last time i checked you pay for a service where Linden labs explicitly stated that they where not giving you a single guarantee that it would work. You signed the TOS like all of us and accepted the conditions of the service...
It isn't always a case of people complaining when things don't work, I personaly accept that SL will always suffer from lags, bugs etc. I also accept that development is an ongoing process, like painting the Forth Bridge it's a nverending task and LL can't be expected to get it right everytime. But LL seem to many to be heading in the wrong direction over alot of issues. I don't believe for a moment that SecondLife could have been set up, maintaint and developed without problems, but I do believe LL could have done better and could to better in the future. As a relativly new business owner in SL I'm feeling the bugs a little harder than many of the other residents. I've spent time building my business and I'm very aware of what it's capable of and I can't tell you how disheartening it is to so frequesntly find myself virtualy cripled by TP problems, slow rezzing textures, lost inventory issues etc whenever LL decide to introduce a new feature that no one needs or has asked for. I've read some of your others posts in the past, I'm well aware of your indifference towards your fellow human beings, but please remember that everyone has their own perspective, everyone has their own story to tell and we all have the right to stand up and be counted. I know you're one LL's success stories, I know you're a powehouse of talent, but for the love of all that's pure and good, take a moment to consider that other people have value too, then quietly move on to somthing else when you don't like what we have to say. Vale
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Hydra Zenovka
Font of Wisdom
Join date: 13 Mar 2007
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04-29-2007 12:32
From: Kyrah Abattoir However, the forum is hardly the place for complaining (about how SL suck, how linden labs are mean, hippies communists, etc...) last time i checked we have jira to report bugs and problems.
No way - that's the only reason I read the forum: Its the best read of all. Not everybody is a lover of compter tech support beaurocracy - JIRA is not an easy solution to peoples problems, Some doubt that it is read frequently if at all by LL and there is not even the concilliation of agreement or advice from one's peers. So your suggestion that JIRA as an alternative to venting frustration on the forums is not valid ( in fact it blows ). Don't want to read the complaints - avert your gaze: why don't you stick to the good news threads and new product announcements. Why don't the complainers stick to another part of the forum? Because those categories were canned so here we are. Lastly, LL should pay these people, for crying out loud - they bring up important consumer issues that, as a service company, is a very valuable commodity. Once a company starts shutting out unpopular information about its product its either about to be sold or take a nosedive. Cheers
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Peggy Paperdoll
A Brat
Join date: 15 Apr 2006
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04-29-2007 16:25
Unfortunately, I think it's about to nosedive. If it were going to be sold there would be more effort toward fixing it first. There would tangible improvements LL could point out to the would be buyer.........I don't see any of that.
But, if I'm wrong and it is sold then my outlook is not much prettier.......anyone buying a system with as many known issues as SL with no realistic plan to fix it would be no better than LL in their business practices. Unless that buyer gets a hell of a deal AND has the resources to make it work. But why would someone do that when they could use LL's track record and develope one of their own avoiding LL's mistakes?
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Strife Onizuka
Moonchild
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04-30-2007 22:08
I'm locking this, it went down hill. From: Spotz Spork So you'll be the first one banned for making this thread, then? I would be surprised if that were the case.
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