When will Linden labs perma ban the whiners?

A forum is ment for discussing things and state ones opinion, which can be positive or negative. And yes, some ppl could be pointed out as whiners, but every forum has them so ignoring is the best you can do. Personally I learned a lot on this forum, the majority of ppl here are very helpful.

Mandy C

i just wanted to voice my complaint about the complainers who complain that you should not complain about complainers that complain.

i mean come on.....

You KNEW what you were gettin into when you got on the plane, YOU KNEW THE RISKS!!!

I say let 'em die......

But you are MEAN!

But I do understand. You're tired of people complaining. But that's what this forum is for. As Strife keeps repeating like a demented nazi parrot - "This forum isn't for discussion". So the only thing you're going to see here is people complaining. Just like you're complaining now!

What else do you expect to find here?

Not this forum!

I know Kyrah - it's disgusting. You'd think people would know better wouldn't you?

I mean, it's SO unreasonable, expecting LL to fix the numerous, historical faults with SL...

Some people! They just have NO idea, do they?
They pay for something and expect it to work properly!
THEN, when it doesn't, they have the temerity to complain! And not privately, via support - oops, well, privately anyway.
Oh no, they just can't take being ignored.
So, what do they do? They complain publicly! I mean... what an outrage?

And yes, a perma-ban could be the answer. Then, when there's no one left but Lindens, Linden Alts and Linden pets, why, you can all Perma Ban each other!

*moves to feature suggestions*

Was the OP meant to be ironic?

It alway the ame old hit?
Methinks your s key works, you're just too lazy to complain more. Damn layabout!

Actually Strife, I don't think so. There's a technique to irony. I didn't see any evidence of it.
Nice call from you btw.

As with many things in life for many people, we have a choice. We choose to open up the post with the title that reads "LL Sucks Donkey Testicles"... and then we let it affect us. We don't have to do either.

As with everything: consider the source. Someone notorious for venting and whingeing endlessly will eventually lose a certain amount of influence over others.

Sure, there are problems with SL, as there are with all software, technology and just life. I've been in the tech industry for many years now (time to feel my age), and I've never seen such shoddy production of PC components in my life... nasty return rates. But that's life and apart from penning a strongly worded letter to the manufacturer to look up Quality Control in the dictionary, there's not much I can do.

Understandably, there are people who need to vent. It's healthy.

But we, the readers, have a choice to read their ravings, give them any credibility, and even allow them to affect us. We could, instead, help a newbie or plan for building something cool in SL or find a way to help LL.

No, like others, I do feel very sad for those who suffer financially, and emotionally at the hands of the SL experience. I feel very fortunate that apart from an occasional bout of shoe&hair ass, I'm having a great time.

Just as a side note, my home has a number of PCs of varying age. SL runs beautifully on my latest beast. As SL upgrades have been released, the SL experience on my 3 year old PC (with a THEN top of the line graphics card) has diminished. I do believe there is a correlation between PC and SL enjoyment. Although, granted, LL needs to beef up their asset server.

One final remark and then I'll bugger off. I've seen SL evolve over the long term and that has me excited. I've seen evidence of this in people's builds and items. The advances of SL's offerings does sweeten. The truly disheartening things about LL/SL ARE things that can be repaired. It is my hope that some day they will figure this out or enough people write them diplomatic letters.

Cheers.

Actually, legitimate complaints are useful if LL is keeping an eye on them (OK, I know, could be a big if). The Lindens seem to be constantly running this grid at the outer limit of capability, just short of collapsing into a smoking heap of spark-shooting, fused metal and glass. If a complaint is valid, it is like an indicator on their dashboard telling them something has gone into the red zone and their car is at risk. Even the peevish and silly complaints could be useful, and even the biggest jerk in the forums could be the first one to warn of the fatal leak in the dike. So I guess you have to let them all get posted to be sure the valid ones are all there.

Do like to skip over certain ones myself, though...

I will gracefully stand corrected. Fitting that the one named Heretic would go against type......

Suppose I should endeavor to answer the question.
If in the course of whining they break existing forum policy, they will be fed into the system. People who repeatedly break the rules may be banned from the forums.

It's not the whining that gets people banned, it's how the whine is done that can get people banned from the forums.

I have to agree. I am a good judge of irony. This wasn't it. We are all users of this product. We have expectations from it. If it doesn't meet our expectations we get frustrated. How we express those frustrations may seem like whining to some, just as some frustrations produce rude, insensitive, arrogance. Even a whiny post can bring to light a legitimate issue. Even if the Providers didn't read the Forums (although I have been gently corrected on that assumption), humans need to express their anger and frustrations. All joking aside, we are granted a good amount in freedom in what we post here, in my opinion. Better yet is the amount of Freedom we have to NOT read any post we wish.

EDIT: /me rates Strife positively

Onward!

Back to the 18th Century!

Onward!

Let me know when the Queen of Hearts gets here.

"OFF with their heads!"

Feature suggestion: make Kyrah her own personal grid, with a forum full of posts generated by exceedingly chipper French-speaking AIs who are all into BDSM and ponyplay.

And Jerry Lewis. For some reason, they LOVE Jerry Lewis over there.

"Whining," venting, complaining - all that - is information, and warnings. I can see what is going wrong, and take steps to protect myself from it. I can see what has worked for other people, and what hasn't, and what I should be sure not to do and to do. I can see whether it's a scary unstable night in SL before I get on.

Really, that information is invaluable.

Besides, we are more and more on our own here. It's not like there is much support that is actually human, or in real-time.

coco

Last time i checked whining hasn't it's place in "resident answers" either; yes, you got it Linden labs closed the forums that where dedicated to whines.



Last time i checked you pay for a service where Linden labs explicitly stated that they where not giving you a single guarantee that it would work. You signed the TOS like all of us and accepted the conditions of the service.



*giggles* although i would be flattered to have some input in LL's community management, i am not sure it would be for the best


However, the forum is hardly the place for complaining (about how SL suck, how linden labs are mean, hippies communists, etc...) last time i checked we have jira to report bugs and problems.

So you'll be the first one banned for making this thread, then?

Hrm. Seems the OP makes one valid point... JIRA has the issue sort-of recorded, at least as far as the issue I was having.

SVC-114

Voted for it, as well.

Now to just figure out what category to enter my

Ban Uncaring Rat-Ba&!@^d-"You Read The TOS, You Take The Loss" Vendors That Don't Really Care That There Are Serious Issues And People Are Losing Real Money

problem.

Hrm.

I probably can't even enter that there. I guess I'll just have to vote with my Lindens on that one.

-K

Edit: Adding in the following...

As a side note to this whole sad exchange, I have been in contact with some truly remarkable creators who make things like popular Doc Martins, and play gags and cuffs, and cybernetic part as well as neko ears and tail, and prim Converse All-Stars, that have all been so accommodating to my situation and have graciously replaced my lost things without so much as a snide reply or callous attitude.

Now if only the OP could be that way...

...

*busts out laughing at her own funny*

Oh dear! I almost passed out laughing so hard.

Then what is the Forum for? Please tell us.

I would like to add:

There is a difference between whinning and complaining. Complaints are put out due to problems or circumstances arising from someone failing to comply with reasonable expectations. For instance. I purchase a head of lettace at the grocery store and upon arriving at home I wash it and find worms in it. I call the grocery store to complain. Now lets take that same head of lettace I bought but instead of arriving home and finding worms in it I find that there is a little dirt down by the base and call the grocery store and whine about some dirt among the leaves...................that is whinning. Lettace is grown in the ground. There is dirt on the leaves. That is why you wash lettace before you eat it.

See the difference?

In most cases in this forum people are not "whinning".........the are "COMPLAINING".

And this whole thread was nothing but a troll......

Editing this post because I want to add another little bit of my opinion on this subject.

I have been reading and posting in these forums since April 2006 (one year) and I've seen a few whines (a few is defined as "not many" and a lot of complaints (a lot is defined as "many". But the most recent whine I've read is this very thread. Someone whinning about people complaining.

Go figure. LOL

Mods, where are you when we need you?

My 2 Cents: My PC RAWKS!!! 2 Ghz Dual Core, GeForce 8800 GTS, 2 Gig RAM, 4 Hard Drives. No complaints here other than SL doesnt take advantage of my Video Card!

Dear LL: Please take advantage of my 8800!! Give me HDR Lighting!! Particles, physics & effects seen only in the latest & greatest PC Games!!! I'd even settle for graphics like in Elderscrollsblivion!!!