New Proposal for Restricted Space exemption for boats

Sometimes it has nothing to do with the land, I know it's possible to create an object that extends out beyond your ownings. Make a series of 10x10 floor pannels and link them together, now push them so that the axies are on the very edge of "your" land. Look how far the planking goes out. I'd be willing to bet you could get 25 meters (15 garunteed).

Now...you steal 20 meters of one side of a Linden Waterway and the person on the opposite shore steals 20 meters....how wide are most Linden Waterways? 40 meters wide seems plenty, yes?

I dont see where they called you any names. The only person whining is you. Maybe you should be reading the posts.

Well using a mega prim I could get 70-250m of water blockage, but prim extentions don't seem to be the problem really it's that the land actually includes the river itself in many cases, perhaps the river was actually made by a property developer, not Lindens.

Obviously you need to read the posts a little better.


The following where directed at me when I only point out that I don't have to give you access to my land and don't want you there.

I guess thats just too complicated for you OR more likely actually ADDRESSING that issue would prevent you from ranting and raving about your lunatic issues.

Suffer?? And an ' I DONT THINK SO'?? My my, what negativity. Sounds downright nasty in spirit.

I know, your entire arguement is ITS YOUR LAND, ITS YOUR LAND. You guys sound like a broken record, and you add nothing to the discussion.

You read between the lines where there is nothing there to read. You come across as feeling attacked. You were not. Relax, have a glass of warm milk. I speak of working together, your standing on your wall with a gattling gun defending yourself from nothing.
Save your ammo, its your land.

Seems personal now, and all Im beginning to hear is that Charlie Brown schoolteacher voice going " WAH WAH WAHH, WAH WAAH".

I'm not whining, but others are whining to cross land I paid for. Theres already airspace, use it. Teleport. Use it. I even offerred a toll to cross my land, and they still continued to complain.

Go back and reread now, I was being insulted for not bowing down to a TRAVELLERS demands when I OWN THE LAND.

I have not proposed blocking off Linden waterways, just my own property and if I get waterfront property the toll of 100L will be in place grantings access for 5 minutes tops depending on the amount of land and how long it should take to pass without loitering. Thats what your access will cost. You get the option of paying for access or not, and I get the price I decided. Mutually beneficial.

I went back and read the posts a little better Mr. Laws. some of the posts you pointed out were not even directed to you. You wernt the glass of milk person or the charlie brown voice. nobody was whining, they were trying to work this out. you wernt being insulted, your stand was being questioned. you were being nasty in spirit when you told that person to suffer. if you find the facts insulting thats your problem.

My case was being insulted as whining, dear.

'Zomg you don't want others on land you pay for? Thats so not right!'

There is nothing to work out. Travellers have no rights of passage except for what currently exists or other users choose to give them (excluding public land) - certain heights above 200m unless explicitly banned. None. There is nothing to negotiate, we can fill our land with giant prims while we arent there if we want. We have the right and ability to keep anyone (and everyone) off of land we pay teir for.

If they find that fact insulting, thats their problem.

Lets see if we can steer this boat back on course.

1)"Landowners can do whatever they want on their property, its their land."

Thats a given. Some folk get excited when they see me blow a visiting nuisance off my land with an uzi. "OMG WONT YOU GET ARRESTED FOR THAT??" No, its my land. How I remove you from it is my business, and the safeties are off. If the landowner has created a private waterway, lets say a shortcut between public waterways or a lake they have built, they have the right as landowner to prohibit passage as they see fit. They may even charge an exhorbitent toll to do so

2) "Public waterways should be passable by the public."

Absolutely, that is why they were created.

3)" Landowners who own waterfront property cannot extend their zone of influence past the property line and into the public area of the waterway."

If the landowners 'ban machine' radius or their dock overhangs their property, and nails boating passerby in the public channel, they are in violation of treaty.
If the problem is landowners overhanging their property line into public waters, then these persons need to be ordered to remove the obstruction

4) Thus, the question is. Are the narrower public waterways wide enough so that landowners on either side of the waterway can build to their property line without obstructing it? If the answer is no, blame LL for poor design and figure out what can be done to correct the problem.

Stay in the middle of the channel and avoid the shoreline.

Hopefully this is clear enough. Now discuss.

Sums it up nicely Winter

Absolutely Winter. I use security orbs that only work within my borders (and eject which only works over my land in case there is a glitch), and do not build off of them without an express neighbours permission - and I don't ask unless its the end of a skybox, no prims on their land, just some overhang at 500+ m.

For those wanting to know of a good orb, Psyke's uses this feature, and the one from Wolfhaven_at_SLEX works great as well.

Perfect accessment.