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Alex Fitzsimmons
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08-13-2007 08:52
From: Alyx Sands @Alex: NOT the Nazis again! Sheesh, don't some of you have any idea about relevance and/or the importance/proportion of things? SOD the bloody c/kasinos! Talking about lifestyles is a completely different subject! For the reading comprehension challenged: From: Alex Fitzsimmons I don't mean to imply that anything at that happens in SL carries anywhere NEAR the same gravity as what happened in Germany with the Nazis, but I'm nevertheless struck by (what I perceive as) the similarity in how people react Notice that I first acknowledge that this is an entirely different level of issue, then clarify that my focus is on the similarity in how human beings react when faced with something that doesn't directly impact them, not on Nazis or any form of fascism. I hope you understand now?
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Ava Glasgow
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08-13-2007 12:37
Re: Battlefield Earth From: Brenda Connolly God, that was one of the worst movies I've ever seen, and I generally love bad si fi movies. On a side note the Scientology Episode of South Park was on the other night, one of my personal favorites I'm having serious problems making it through this movie. I'm with you, Bren... I definitely enjoy the occasional completely lame MST3K-worthy sci fi film flop, but this one is just bad on every possible level. Worst of all... BOOOOR-ING!!! Now that SP ep, THAT is something worth watching!  |
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Tegg Bode
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08-13-2007 23:59
From: Colette Meiji I read that book
It was better than the movie.
Though it had the typical Big novel problem of going very very slow at the begining then rushing at the end.
Nutty isnt necessarily a bad quality in an Author.
Look at Poe. (not that Hubbard is in Poe's league , or even sport)
Though nutty is probably a bad quality in a cult founder.
is Hubbard even a Scientologist? I liked the book series it was excellent untill it lost the plot in the last 1 or 2 books and just lost me completely.
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Brenda Connolly
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08-14-2007 06:26
From: Colette Meiji I read that book
It was better than the movie.
Though it had the typical Big novel problem of going very very slow at the begining then rushing at the end.
Nutty isnt necessarily a bad quality in an Author.
Look at Poe. (not that Hubbard is in Poe's league , or even sport)
Though nutty is probably a bad quality in a cult founder.
is Hubbard even a Scientologist? Not any More........ For a better book of similar vein, check out "Way of the Pilgrim" by Gordon Dickson, or if you want a kindler gentler alien occupation "Childhoods End" by Arthur C Clarke, the book that got me interested in reading Science Fiction.
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Brenda Connolly
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08-14-2007 06:32
From: Brenda Connolly Not any More........ For a better book of similar vein, check out "Way of the Pilgrim" by Gordon Dickson, or if you want a kindler gentler alien occupation "Childhoods End" by Arthur C Clarke, the book that got me interested in reading Science Fiction.
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Alyx Sands
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08-14-2007 07:22
From: Alex Fitzsimmons For the reading comprehension challenged:
Notice that I first acknowledge that this is an entirely different level of issue, then clarify that my focus is on the similarity in how human beings react when faced with something that doesn't directly impact them, not on Nazis or any form of fascism.
I hope you understand now? To say "I don't really want to compare these things BUT" basically means the same as "I WANT to compare these". If you think it's not a relevant comparison anyway, WHY mention it? I just wish people would not jump on the Nazi thing first....there are many other things out there to compare it too, but everyone is flogging the dead Nazi horse first. AND quoting Martin Niemöller. That was a bit too much to just mean you actually don't think it compares. Oo |
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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08-14-2007 17:58
*sigh* Okay. Third try! From: Alyx Sands To say "I don't really want to compare these things BUT" basically means the same as "I WANT to compare these". That isn't what I said, though. Ever. What I said was, "I'm going to compare these from the perspective of their similarity in the matter of human reaction to events that don't directly impact them." From: someone If you think it's not a relevant comparison anyway, WHY mention it? I think it's a very relevant comparison! It's just that I'm focused not on Nazism specifically, nor any issue of that gravity specifically, but on the similarity in human behavior seen in both instances. If you'd stop trying to jump to conclusions and instead read what I wrote carefully, you'd understand that I was never concerned in my post with Nazism specifically but with human behavior. That particular historical set of circumstances was useful to me because it's an excellent and widely recognized illustration of a common human response. That poem was useful to me because it very pointedly draws attention to the possible consequences of such a response. From: someone I just wish people would not jump on the Nazi thing first Then it would be wonderful of you to jump off of that dead horse, stop beating it, and turn your attention to the issue I was actually attempting to address with my comparison. Please do so? From: someone That was a bit too much to just mean you actually don't think it compares. And let me just restate this, to be as crystal clear as possible: I absolutely DO think it compares, or else I wouldn't have selected that comparison. That is simple common sense. However, I'm not comparing the magnitude of the two sets of circumstances. I am also not comparing the importance of the two sets of circumstances. I further am not comparing the historical relevance of the two sets of circumstances. There are, above and beyond, many other things about those two sets of circumstances that I am expressly not comparing, for the very good reason that they would not compare well. The one and only ... again, only ... to be perfectly clear, one more time ... ONLY ... thing I am comparing about these two sets of circumstances is their similarity with respect to how people react to things that don't directly impact them. With the poem, I'm then highlighting the possible consequences, in any set of circumstances, of such behavior.
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Bradley Bracken
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08-14-2007 18:45
From: Gisela Vale ... I seriously doubt anyone on this forum would bother since the posts
aren't read or taken seriously to begin with.
You write this so I presume you must believe it, yet you persist to waste your time posting all this dribble anyway. It's not that the forums aren't taken seriously, Gisele, it's just that you and all the others who seemed to believe that SL economy was completely dependent on gaming that aren't taken seriously. Certainly there must be other pressing issues in your life. If not, consider yourself very lucky indeed. |