Login preference to Premiums

Brilliant idea. So simple - and brilliant.

At the rate that SL is growing, /me wonder what the next step will be. Preference based on the amount of land owned? Length of membership? How long you've payed in-advance for premium? etc?

How much L$ you have? Inventory size? How many times you've been in bed with Philip?

Ok, that last one is just silly.



Isn't it?!?

Because I pay LL and have my CC on file and you dont. personally, I honestly dont care if you rent an entire island from someone else. that person is verified and you aren't so you arent transacting Business with LL.

Philip is kinda cute!

I would think that an island renter who buys the L$ off LindeX would have a CC on file to be able to do that. No?

Seeing as they just annihilated the main reason most people upgrade to premium, I'd imagine they'll have to find some other sort of incentive. I'm fine with this myself. Most MMO's won't even let you try their games without paying first...

I must say any perks that premium accounts get, should not gimp (take away from) the basic accounts. Basics should have the same quality of service as we have right now, however premiums would have the noted extra perks. Restricting a basic accounts attachments IMO would probably be pushing it a bit too far. Despite LL's actions in the past and present, I'm sure they don't really want to lose customers. Even though they make some awful decisions that tend to chase them away anyway lol. I'll be honest with you here. Not everyone is going to go premium just because their basic account is now gimped of things they used to always have. I'd say about half or more of them will split. Notice the perks i posted earlier, aren't directed to harm the basic accounts? I thought about that ahead.

In terms of attachments, it'd have to be something that no sane person uses. Say, 1000 primitives. Almost no one gets up that high and needs it (*cough* 400 prim rings). Limit unverifieds to 500 and I doubt anyone would notice save the griefer trying to crash sims (or at least crash the people around them). 1000 for payment on file (you want more prims? Give us some info so if you get ARed we can actually DO something about it) and no restriction for premium, save the ultimute maximum of whatever ungodly number of 1000s that is.

Feel free to discuss proposed limits.

I think that's a great idea I made a 32k sqm house awhile back and I used just barely over 1800 prims. Putting that in perspective, someone could have a 16k sqm house and be under 1k prims quite easily or have an 8k sqm under 500. If you own 8k+ sqm of land, I doubt $10/month is the big issue here and I agree, you should be compelled to provide some verification.

STOP RIGHT THERE

I've been premium for months now. This isn't about "me". This is about a principle.

That person wouldn't be transacting business with LL if the people paying them rent weren't doing business with them. Why do YOU think LL is so stupid they can't see that?

You know, even tho LL claimed that they would restrict logins when SL got really swamped, I still haven't ever seen that happen; has anyone else? I spent an hour trying to get on the other day when 35k people were logged in.

Just curious...

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Whoa you seem to KNOW more than you actually do.

Everyone on this forum has their payment info on file. So accusing anyone of not is incorrect.

Many who coment against the need for everyone to be premium have been premium longer than you've apherently been in Second Life.

So be careful who you accuse of what just becuase you disagree.

Now as to your example:

A basic account holder who rents an entire Island contributes more to Linden Labs than 20 (TWENTY) normal 512 M holding premiums.

Therefore your analysis is flawed.

So an argument based on economic impact alone really isnt going to be able to be solved just by who is premium and who is not.

Now then - If the arguments framed another way. That prefered access is due premiums Becuase thats a perk of being premium. Well okay. That is Linden Labs call if they want to make it.

But to say premiums automatically impact this economy more than non premiums is false.

Whats next - rating everyone on economic impact?

Anshe gets to log on first. Than the land barons. Finally the single island holders, than business's that own some land but make good sales?

Seems far too complex and far too feudal to me.

There's a handful of unverifieds on the forums when they glitched around July and allowed everyone access. I'd assume that the unverifieds who registered before the open-door policy (by telephone) have forum access as well.

None (or most depending on what that person uses their sim for) of those people actually pay any of their own money into the system, they're just using someone else's to pay their own bills, while cashing out the remainder.

Verifieds who actually spend their own money should have a higher priority than those that simply use SL as a cash cow. Anshe's tenants can survive without Anshe, but Anshe can't survive without her tenants. The same goes for business owners.

I was informed everyone who is on the forums is now "verified" I suppose its possible theres some people whose identities are verified by older methods who do not have current payment details. They still have their identity on file.



This is baseless. People who pay THOUSANDS of US dollars in teir every month contribute more to LL's bottom line than a typical premium user.

Just becuase they have sucessful businesses' and their teir payments and Proffits are covered by other people spending RL $USD on SL does not mean they arent contributing. Quite the opposite.

I dont actually advocate letting people log in based on their economic impact - Im against that.

Don't even go there. Or at least look my profile up in world before making an assumption like that. Also, you don't seem to be clear about the distinction I was making between "unverified" and "not premium".

Hey kids, let's not fight! The point of this thread is to talk about login preferences. LL announced a few weeks ago that they would indeed give login preferences to premium members when the grid was swamped. Has it worked? Are they implementing this procedure at all? Are they just blowing smoke to get us to shut up? Why declare an intent to institute a standard and then not adhere to that intention?

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All evidence says Yes, apparently.