BAN ban-lines

I wasn't clear, obviously. I mean they'd have to do it everywhere. Every meter of every road. Because ban lines can go up anywhere and you can run off the road anywhere.

I meant on a case-by-case basis as is the existing reality. It's not necessary nor conducive to conversation to play devil's advocate at every opportunity, Argent.

I'm not "playing devil's advocate".

I'm serious. You can leave the road anywhere, not just on a tight curve or whatever other special cases you're talking about. A few seconds of lag (and even with draw distance set to 64, on a bad night I have seen my sim ping spike to 7s or more) and you're off the road.

I agree with this. It isn't like people can't cam in to have a look around anyway.
Implicit bans are just a false sense of security, and only hinder those that wish to innocently pass through.

With my graphics, I have no choice but to drive slow. You can crawl across a sim border at 1mph and still find yourself floating aimlessly across 3245 sims with no control. I ALWAYS have the border lines showing too.

Best tips for mainland driving:

1: A vehicle with a sensible speed is vital.
2: Make the SL viewer use only 1 chip (it doesn't support dual core), and set all other major programs to the other chip (See task manager/processes...right click on the programs and choose "set affinity".
3: Using the advanced menu, turn off particles, clouds, trees, grass and anything else you can live without (advanced/rendering/types).
5: Set your graphics options lowest on everything, except 50% on objects and draw distance set to 100-200.
4: Turn on property lines.

Is this really true?(and if so is it a good thing to do all the time?) I have seen people say this in other threads and then I have seen other people reply and say it is BS.

If this is true, then Microsoft broke something really badly in Windows XP. I use Windows 2000, and I get noticeably better response time and performance in SL when I have processor affinity turned off.

I don't run any other "major programs" when I'm using SL, mind you. And Windows 2000 has significantly fewer system threads than Windows XP. And Windows 2000 doesn't come with the in-kernel DRM introduced with Windows Media Player 9.1.

I have no idea what a band line is, but I presume we are still talking about ban-lines....

My issue isn't with RUNNING into them, as clearly, they are visable at a distance of 2m, the issue is while driving. You may be oblivious to this, but when driving a vehicle, if your camera is set close enough to your av so that you can see these infernal ban-lines, it is probably inside the vehicle, or so close to it that you wouldn't even see the road or be able to tell your direction.

I have no problem with landowners being secretive, it is the way that these crap ban-lines are not visable enough, steal my vehicle and render my av imobile and useless, causing me to re-log. All of which I mentioned in my first post, which it appears you hardly read more than 2 words.

So far as I am aware, ban-lines can be active up to 730m height, or something similar.

Brillient suggestion. An option "make annoying, anti-social ban-lines appear in default media texture" or something...

Instead of doing that, try enabling the "Run Multiple Threads" option under the Advanced > Rendering menu.

Setting affinity helps if I'm running two copies of the client, or SL and some other CPU hungry program. Otherwise, I'm not so sure.

Another brillient suggestion

No. Only up to 50m above ground level.

This is a common misconception which is why people put ban lines around an empty parcel to try and protect their skybox hundreds of meters above it.

Only if you're explicitly banned, by name, from a parcel. And if you have been banned from a parcel then I don't see any reason to change this.

I would still like to see landowners have the ability to "flip" banlines to they protect a skybox near the building ceiling instead of the ground. I could totally use that capability, but the current ground-based banlines are just useless and annoying.

The only "major program" have running is memory hogging Vista, usualy.

I am SO sorry.

Have you tried the Windows 7 beta?

If you don't like Vista, you probably won't like Windows 7 very much, either.

Oh, yeah, I did a couple quick & dirty fps comparisons of the same scene with CPU affinity, and limiting the current viewer to a single core resulted in a significantly worse frame rate.

I can't imagine why.

Ahhh...so the tip I was given doesn't work then lol

I shall revert to normal, thank you for the advise

They should make ban-lines visible at 200m.

Must be your computer, because I run into ban lines all the time and they never crash MY Mac, not once, they just appear, tell me I cannot enter and bounce me off them, so if you are losing your vehicle and SL is crashing and your PC is too, it's your setup not the ban lines that is the problem.

Way I see it is, a person is paying money for a parcel and they are paying monthly fees to use it, they have the right to keep anyone they wish off the parcel they pay for just like in real life.
Silly thing is though, ban lines are totally useless as are locked doors and solid walls against remote camera viewing, even from half a sim away.

They crash Second Life, you literal-minded idiot.
If Linden Labs actually provided a useful and meaningful way to keep people out, you might have a point, but:

This.

Hardly any different than the guy in a building across the street with binoculars seeing you through your open windows.




Ohh, I see, well with an attitude like yours maybe it's a GOOD thing it crashes you, that much less time on the grid with your rotten 'tude, keep doing what you are doing, don't change a thing and please keep hitting those ban lines

Whether it specifically crashes your SL software, or your PC doesn't matter, it doesn't do anything to either my SL software or Mac, so what does that tell you?

Don't get pissy with me or anyone else here because YOUR software and computer have problems, blame MicroCrud for their lousy OS.

Except that in SL he can see through closed blinds, a brick wall, and a level seven warp shield.
It tells me you don't actually drive vehicles in SL all that much, or you're actually working at Linden Labs so you're on the same LAN as the sim, or you're lying.
I'm not running Bootcamp on my Macbook Pro. I have the same problems there.