Thanks for taking my money!!
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Arcadia Trevellion
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01-09-2008 06:56
From: Wulfric Chevalier If you are not bothered about the interest why put it in a bank in the first place? Just keep it in that little box at the top of the screen, it's not going anywhere unless you spend it. I cannot see how putting money in a bank is more convenient than keeping it in your pocket. I was going to say the same thing...unless you're bothered about the interest, why not just keep it in the box at the top of the screen, unless of course you are like me and would spend it all if it's there, in which case I'd just create an alt and send it to the alt. It's more effort to get to that way and at least between logging out of your current AV and logging into you Alt you can decide whether the item is worth buying 
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Koukin Kamachi
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01-09-2008 06:57
From: Sparkle Junot Oh, I must put in a good word for JT Financial, I think others on other threads have also left positive comments, too.
I've never had a bad experience with this institution, they've always been solid and forthright, so I'm wondering if they are just a crappy get rich scheme because they forgot to take the money and run? So they will give you your money back then? I hope so. Unlike those who "can't say they're sorry", I _am_ sorry for you. Certainly it's unwise to trust unregulated institutions with your money (financial services are regulated by law for a reason), but people are too trusting, people do get duped, and people often just don't see the warning signs (Ginko crashing and burning, the gambling ban, other banking scams, etc.) that yes, the unregulated finance sector is doomed too. That doesn't mean you don't deserve our sympathy. I'm sorry this happened to you, but you're still young and it sounds like if you do make a loss, it's negligible, and you can chalk it down to experience. Either way, far more people were being continually ripped off thanks to Linden Lab turning a blind eye to unregulated banking in Second Life. From what I gather, regulated banking is still allowed, so the situation has actually improved. If any SL bank uses this current action to deny you a withdrawal, that is absolutely not the Lindens fault. They should all have had a strategy in place to refund depositors in full, but as we saw with Ginko, your money generally goes into funding the lifestyle (both RL & SL) of the avatar to whom you gave your money, and the withdrawals of other avatars. Ie. Ponzi.
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Lias Leandros
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01-09-2008 06:58
From: Sparkle Junot So because of that, I didn't lose 30K in like a few hours? You are saying that it is Linden Lab's fault that your 'honest' bank stole all of your money because of a blog announcement?
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Koukin Kamachi
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01-09-2008 07:08
From: Lias Leandros You are saying that it is Linden Lab's fault that your 'honest' bank stole all of your money because of a blog announcement? Her bank is still able to operate until Jan 22nd, so why are they refusing to pay out? It's not like they have to remove their ATMs *NOW*. They have plenty of time to wind up and pay back all their depositors. What gives?
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sable Valentine
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1st ? to ask, is your money insured
01-09-2008 07:29
Months ago my sl husband wanted me to deposit monies into Ginko and was bragging about the return on his investment. Being in the USA first question I asked was, is my money federally insured up to $100,000 he laughed and said Sable well this is SL and its a game. Money to me is no game virtual or not. Well who wasn't laughing when they lost their SL fortune. I have had very dear friends loose vasts amounts of $$ due to the Ginko and other such situations. Some never financially recovered. After reading these posts some mention financial institutions favorably. I personally would like more knowledge of these institutions so I can do my own research. But I would not put in anything that I can't afford to loose either. If I earned 30K I would've withdrawn it and put in the little black box and left 5K at the most. That's a personal choice and that's just me. But, regardless how favorable the institution may seem, the same questions would be asked; what happens if the institution becomes insolvent? What recourse do you have? If any. You just have to use common sense like in any situation and not get caught up and swept away just like in RL folks.
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Koukin Kamachi
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01-09-2008 07:36
From: sable Valentine Months ago my sl husband wanted me to deposit monies into Ginko and was bragging about the return on his investment. Being in the USA first question I asked was, is my money federally insured up to $100,000 he laughed and said Sable well this is SL and its a game. Money to me is no game virtual or not. Well who wasn't laughing when they lost their SL fortune. I have had very dear friends loose vasts amounts of $$ due to the Ginko and other such situations. Some never financially recovered. After reading these posts some mention financial institutions favorably. I personally would like more knowledge of these institutions so I can do my own research. But I would not put in anything that I can't afford to loose either. If I earned 30K I would've withdrawn it and put in the little black box and left 5K at the most. That's a personal choice and that's just me. But, regardless how favorable the institution may seem, the same questions would be asked; what happens if the institution becomes insolvent? What recourse do you have? If any. You just have to use common sense like in any situation and not get caught up and swept away just like in RL folks. Very well said Sable. I for one cannot bring myself to laugh and deny sympathy to those who have lost money (whatever the reasons). I do think they would be better venting their ire at the avatars who took their money though. Any responsible bank would now make a commitment to paying their depositors back in full -- preferably before Jan 22nd. Not in shares, bonds or book tokens, but in the $Ls they took. I am very glad we'll never see another Ginko situation, ever again.
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Elinah Iredell
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01-09-2008 08:46
From: Sparkle Junot Thanks Lindens for taking my hard earned L$'s....I had been saving for 3/4's of a year to watch my savings take a dump because you decide to persecute EVERY SL financial institute because of the bad seeds.
Thanks a ton, I really appreciate this additional meddling in my affairs.
Sparkle Sorry for the loss of your money Sparkle that really sucks  ... Is there any way that Linden can get you the money back? Elinah
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Elinah Iredell
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01-09-2008 08:47
From: Koukin Kamachi Very well said Sable. I for one cannot bring myself to laugh and deny sympathy to those who have lost money (whatever the reasons). I do think they would be better venting their ire at the avatars who took their money though. Any responsible bank would now make a commitment to paying their depositors back in full -- preferably before Jan 22nd. Not in shares, bonds or book tokens, but in the $Ls they took.
I am very glad we'll never see another Ginko situation, ever again. What is Ginko? Elinah
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Wildefire Walcott
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01-09-2008 08:57
From: Sparkle Junot So because of that, I didn't lose 30K in like a few hours? Oh, thank you so much, I'm glad that silliness isn't affecting me. Banks are allowed to operate for the next 2 weeks. If your bank's not letting you at your money, it's THEIR fault, not LL's. From: someone lol, if you have money in here, earned or otherwise, it's easier to let it 'ride' than to constantly sell and buy these stupid L$'s....to me, it was a convenience, the meager interest wasn't the issue... so bite me jerks. If you didn't care about the return then why did you put it in a bank? Why was giving it to someone else to keep a better idea than just leaving it in your own L$ account if you didn't care about the interest?
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Wildefire Walcott
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01-09-2008 09:05
From: Elinah Iredell What is Ginko? It was the most well-known and frequently misspelled Second Life virtual bank, and it folded last year, stealing the majority of investors' funds. A friend of mine lost L$400,000 to them, which is almost enough to buy an island in Second Life. https://ginkofinancial.com/
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Okiphia Anatine
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01-09-2008 09:10
From: Wildefire Walcott It was the most well-known and frequently misspelled Second Life virtual bank, and it folded last year, stealing the majority of investors' funds. A friend of mine lost L$400,000 to them, which is almost enough to buy an island in Second Life. https://ginkofinancial.com/HOLY CRAP!!! 400k? Wow....thats a buttload... I wouldn't trust an ALT with that much less some other account o.o BUt.. I wouldn't trust another account to hold 5 L$ either so meh.. and it's not cause of Ginko, just seems like common sense to me. Just as I don't use banks in RL unless I have to pay something off that I can't do in person.
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Katie Singh
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01-09-2008 09:13
I hear about lots of people who stuck money into banks, but I've never heard of anyone that borrowed any from a bank. Why would you when you could just buy Lindens. It's never made any sense other than as a "minigame."
And yes, as others have said, if the bank was legitimate, it would be able to pay you back. The fact that it can't meant that the Lindens were right and that six months or a year down the line, it wouldn't be able to pay you back and you'd have lost more money.
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sable Valentine
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i find it interesting
01-09-2008 09:38
I find it interesting that no one wants LL help/interference until something goes bad with an entity that LL really has nothing to do with. The comment can LL get that avie's money back is prime example of this. It is not LL responsiblity to recover those monies and this is exactly why there are taking this action so they will not find themselves rope a doped to quote Mohammed Ali into a situation that they did not cause nor promoted from what I understand. By taking this action like it or not it is being proactive to prevent them from becoming involved. AS SL moves more into the mainstream and corporations are becoming more prominent inworld they are doing whatever they can to ensure on their part that no unsavory press printed about them. An example is how SL is breaking up marriages and sex and gambling and so on is prominent in the game. Ok there probably is some truth to that but no one discusses how through SL many have launched businesses that would've been costly if launched in RL. And banking happens to be one of them. Or how someone with a serious disability that may not can get out and meet ppl but have friends all over the world that cares about them and maybe their own saving grace. Or, that little Madeline child missing and how I see billboards of her picture inworld not to mention the various charites such as breast cancer awareness SL citizens promote. NO it is not their responsiblity to recover any money someone lost in a banking situation. But guess what eventually someone will make an argument that LL should bear some responsiblity since they allow them to exist inworld. When something goes bad we have propensity such as calling the police to solve it but complains about excessive force. Some wants LL help in recovering their monies, some wants LL not to interfere at all. Folks, like in RL it can't be both ways. Personally, I want LL focus on things that apply to ALL such as grid instability, login issues, loss of inventory due to a SL problem things of that nature that affects all. I'm sorry if someone lost their money but seriously it has no affect on me whatsoever. But grid issues does for me and YOU.
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Elinah Iredell
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01-09-2008 10:21
From: sable Valentine I find it interesting that no one wants LL help/interference until something goes bad with an entity that LL really has nothing to do with. The comment can LL get that avie's money back is prime example of this. It is not LL responsiblity to recover those monies and this is exactly why there are taking this action so they will not find themselves rope a doped to quote Mohammed Ali into a situation that they did not cause nor promoted from what I understand. By taking this action like it or not it is being proactive to prevent them from becoming involved. AS SL moves more into the mainstream and corporations are becoming more prominent inworld they are doing whatever they can to ensure on their part that no unsavory press printed about them. An example is how SL is breaking up marriages and sex and gambling and so on is prominent in the game. Ok there probably is some truth to that but no one discusses how through SL many have launched businesses that would've been costly if launched in RL. And banking happens to be one of them. Or how someone with a serious disability that may not can get out and meet ppl but have friends all over the world that cares about them and maybe their own saving grace. Or, that little Madeline child missing and how I see billboards of her picture inworld not to mention the various charites such as breast cancer awareness SL citizens promote. NO it is not their responsiblity to recover any money someone lost in a banking situation. But guess what eventually someone will make an argument that LL should bear some responsiblity since they allow them to exist inworld. When something goes bad we have propensity such as calling the police to solve it but complains about excessive force. Some wants LL help in recovering their monies, some wants LL not to interfere at all. Folks, like in RL it can't be both ways. Personally, I want LL focus on things that apply to ALL such as grid instability, login issues, loss of inventory due to a SL problem things of that nature that affects all. I'm sorry if someone lost their money but seriously it has no affect on me whatsoever. But grid issues does for me and YOU. I agree they do need to deal with grid issued as well ( I just lost inventory yesterday ) but I disagree that this is not their problem. Many here state that these banks are just an avatar holding the money. And if so SL has access to their account do they not? How hard would it be to give the money back to each avatar who put it in or at least tell the banks to do so ? And what about land bots? Stealing people's land who make an error? And what about other scams as well? Linden can do nothing to help ? Nothing? There is a fine line between getting involved too much and not at all dont you think? I realize SL is still the wild west a bit and I love it that way but if they can create new rules they can help fix the problems they cause and make the transition go smoother. Elinah
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Peebee McMillan
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When will people stopp complaining?
01-09-2008 10:26
Come on people ... and specially Sparkle ...
It is a step that was predictable. You knew that it is not, can not, be 100% safe to bunker money in a SL bank. It's always a risk, same risk it is by having it in your account. There can always be some glitch that purges parts of it or all. We all know it happened before and we all agreed to the TOS, that we're fine that LL is not held responsible. And the comment about Lindens being good as Nazis is dumb, bare of all human decency and way over the line there. If you are so aggrevated by LL, then for gods sake just purge your account! Who keeps you in SL if everthing is so damn bad? Go find another hobby and stop bothering people who believe in SL, with stupid and gross comments like the Nazi one.
I dont agree with everthing LL does. Certainly not, but I just believe in what SL means to me and to others. The idea that is behind it. Thats why I deal with the things LL does (and mostly has to do) and keep on my SL as good as possible. Make the best out of it.
Everyone who is complaining about SL should just question themselves: Is SL so bad that they would leave it, or do they want to be part and take advantage of all of the awesome things it offers? Thats my opinion. And I stand up for that.
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sable Valentine
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Yes, just leave SL if it is so bad!!!
01-09-2008 11:16
Firstly, they did to a certain extent address the land bot but getting rid of first land which I believe was more hurtful because it stalled promoting home/business land ownership for people that never owned land before. To me that was more devastating than gambling. But, I'm sure someone out there would argue that. Secondly, people must think LL has a gazillion people on staff to address every little bitty thing. No, I'm not certainly minimizing the loss of someone's account. Thirdly, choice. People had choice to put their money in such accounts. With any choice you have to take the good with the bad. Fourthly, I see this not really any different than me purchasing something from a vendor and didnt get it. Do I call LL to retrieve money from their account no. It was MY choice to buy it. It was these avies CHOICE to do this and I agree with the posting that they signed the TOS agreement. There is no inworld regulation to FORCE these institutions to adhere to their committment and probably no regulation for LL to go into their accounts and return those monies. Thats why LL is "ASKING". Fifth, there are all kinds of scams just like in RL. There maybe here a lack of understanding of the time and resources it takes for LL and takes away from LL to address such potential issues such as lawsuit that may come about from this banking situation. Anyone would know this if they were following the sexgen trademark lawsuit waged by Stroker Serpertine. No, LL did nothing but he had to go through them to obtain the other avies info. I"m sure LL had to consult their legal and God knows who else because of privacy issues. If you want to know more about this read Reuters/Second Life. Additionally, LL spent considerable amount of time and resources on on the avie that allegedly had somehow advanced knowledge of land being placed for auction and bought it up. OK LL seized his account and GUESS WHAT he sued them. Thats in Reuters/Second Life too btw. Given the result of that circumstance, LL probably does not want to go down that route again.
Again, like it or not they are being proactive. Plus it would be a challenge to come up with a "constitution" whatever you want to call and i use that as an example because of the globalization SL represents. NO ONE would agree to anything because different countries, societies and so on may have a different views. Shoot we cannot do it in RL so what makes someone think it can be done in SL.
Maybe some citizens need to take the time to read other articles on SL in addition to obtaining information through the blogs. Then at least they will have a more informed understanding why LL will take or not take certain actions. Had I not read Reuters, I, myself would say well why they just dont take the money out of these avies account. Seriously, they may not have a legal right to. Did you stop to think about that?
And....if if SL puts such a bad taste in one's mouth, why are you still at the dinner table? Just leave!
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Adamar Clark
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01-09-2008 12:12
Hah I think if Linden Labs actually took an active step in talking to the financial community in Second Life they would realize that we are not stupid people many of the banks and Stock markets have set up Real world Business's and corporations to convince the public to trust them that they are here too stay.
Also we the financial investors and community have taken active steps to promote stable companies and institutions. First by selecting and having meetings to discuss how to prevent fraud even some insurance companies have sprung up to protect investors who don't trust the banks fully. Along with having meetings institutions and investors have been calling out for more transparency in financial's which have allowed us to trust these companies more with our money. What really erks me is that Linden Labs not only caters to the minority of people who actually feel the system is bad and terrible when if they were to actually ask these people any financial question of how the money is made in the game they would probably say its some pyramid scheme. When for the most part money is made by the rapid growth of the SL economy and that the interest that is payed out is reasonable and needed for the high risk people take in giving there money to someone with no regulation set in place. Basic Business principles is Risk Vs reward and the public has come to a general ideal that the reward we get out ways the risk of losing our money yet we still continue to strive to prevent fraud.
Finally i want to emphasize that we the financial community are a big part of Second Lifes economy and have full intention to continue to operate some way and that all Linden Labs Did by making this announcement, without fair warning, has caused an extreme distrust in there company and game. Also causing stress for many entrepreneurs that wont take this laying down and may result to legal action especially since it has caused extreme financial losses. I am not saying that the banks will for sure continue but we will find a way to continue our free market capitalist practices. It is our money let us use it as we please.
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Elinah Iredell
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01-09-2008 12:37
From: sable Valentine Firstly, they did to a certain extent address the land bot but getting rid of first land which I believe was more hurtful because it stalled promoting home/business land ownership for people that never owned land before. To me that was more devastating than gambling. But, I'm sure someone out there would argue that. Secondly, people must think LL has a gazillion people on staff to address every little bitty thing. No, I'm not certainly minimizing the loss of someone's account. Thirdly, choice. People had choice to put their money in such accounts. With any choice you have to take the good with the bad. Fourthly, I see this not really any different than me purchasing something from a vendor and didnt get it. Do I call LL to retrieve money from their account no. It was MY choice to buy it. It was these avies CHOICE to do this and I agree with the posting that they signed the TOS agreement. There is no inworld regulation to FORCE these institutions to adhere to their committment and probably no regulation for LL to go into their accounts and return those monies. Thats why LL is "ASKING". Fifth, there are all kinds of scams just like in RL. There maybe here a lack of understanding of the time and resources it takes for LL and takes away from LL to address such potential issues such as lawsuit that may come about from this banking situation. Anyone would know this if they were following the sexgen trademark lawsuit waged by Stroker Serpertine. No, LL did nothing but he had to go through them to obtain the other avies info. I"m sure LL had to consult their legal and God knows who else because of privacy issues. If you want to know more about this read Reuters/Second Life. Additionally, LL spent considerable amount of time and resources on on the avie that allegedly had somehow advanced knowledge of land being placed for auction and bought it up. OK LL seized his account and GUESS WHAT he sued them. Thats in Reuters/Second Life too btw. Given the result of that circumstance, LL probably does not want to go down that route again.
Again, like it or not they are being proactive. Plus it would be a challenge to come up with a "constitution" whatever you want to call and i use that as an example because of the globalization SL represents. NO ONE would agree to anything because different countries, societies and so on may have a different views. Shoot we cannot do it in RL so what makes someone think it can be done in SL.
Maybe some citizens need to take the time to read other articles on SL in addition to obtaining information through the blogs. Then at least they will have a more informed understanding why LL will take or not take certain actions. Had I not read Reuters, I, myself would say well why they just dont take the money out of these avies account. Seriously, they may not have a legal right to. Did you stop to think about that?
And....if if SL puts such a bad taste in one's mouth, why are you still at the dinner table? Just leave! You are in no position to tell somebody else to leave sl that is not very nice. And I have considered leaving more than once not because I have ever been scammed I have not but because it all starts to seem like a useless waste of time, and at times the people here are not always that nice, so I almost didnt renew my membership. And many other people do leave too, I have a friend who lost an island ( yes an island) to a land bot and other friends have left this game or come rarely now, some also take breaks for a while I have done that twice. Perhaps if sl handled things better it wouldnt happen so often that people leave. Perhaps a form of sl insurance would be nice? To me helping those scammed is a form of customer service but maybe its not do able, but what can they do? There has to be something. Perhaps its something they could do for premium customers? I dont know it just seems to me they handle changes very poorly like the whole child av sex scandal ... which created the identity verification nightmare idea... it seems to me they react first think about consequences later and dont really listen to their residents opinions on anything . I spend as much time in this game as anyone ( too much time actually) .And I have earned the right to complain if I want to . I feel it shows I care lol. I knew about the land lawsuit issue he was obviously trying to take advantage of the system but as I recall it did bring up some valid point or two , but that other lawsuit I didnt know about , it sounds interesting I will read about it. However no need to sound like a snob just because you are aware of something I was not. Its a lot nicer to be helpful not rude. Elinah
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01-09-2008 15:31
From: Peebee McMillan Come on people ... and specially Sparkle ...
It is a step that was predictable. You knew that it is not, can not, be 100% safe to bunker money in a SL bank. It's always a risk, same risk it is by having it in your account. There can always be some glitch that purges parts of it or all. The one difference is if the money is on your personal account, and it gets lost due to some sort of glitch, there is the possibility LL will replace it, depending on the situation. I agree with those who said that if your bank doesn't have your money to withdraw now, then you were ripped off the moment you depsoited it. To those who want to run a legitimate banking business, I hope there is a way to make it happen. Get together with LL and hash something out. Maybe not a RL bank, necessarily, but there could be some sort of system, maybe a Central Linden Reserve where anyone opening a bank has to provide RL details, and makes a deposit to insure itself. Something. I like to see some real investment opportunity. I don't want to create content or be a land dealer, but I wouldn't mind putting up a few thousand Lindens and seeing what happens to it somewhere
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Gadosilver Crimson
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01-10-2008 04:18
I feel like the linden choice is right, these institute were damaging the SL economy and the people trust (I recently talk about this in a post...), in the long term it would have crash the SL world and his reputation, and the LL guys have a right to make a move.... I focus a lot on this particular case and I see that a lot of people misunderstand "virtual bank" with fake institute. People that say that is stupid to invest in virtual bank are wrong, the right way to say should be "is stupid to give money to financial institute that give no prof that are real, and so are fake. That was the big problem, institutes that disguise them self as real thing but that aren't. Make a bank operate is not a easy thing, those agency don't offer a service, they just want your money, and so they use the word bank to attract the victim (is like spamming, pishing or other fraudulent activity .....). People need a way to certificate that they are giving money to a real bank, they have the right to know were them money are going, in which instruments these banks or institute reinvest their money, they need guarantee. If we found a way to give these certificates then banks and financial agency have right to work (as on line bank do...), we call them "virtual bank" because of virtual world but they are "real"....
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Allan Saltwater
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02-06-2008 10:51
From: Wheezie Jefferson You deposited your hard earned savings into a virtual bank run by an avatar and had been saving for 3/4 of a year? Why didn't you just cash out and put the money into a real bank to earn interest? Lesson learned. Why? .... BECAUSE IT COSTS TOO MUCH TO DO THAT ... work out what you would get back in workd if you took L$50,000 to a real bank and brought it back again ... I would be surprised in the extreme if you could do it and not loose as much as 5% ... and only then if your bank was a US$ account ... any other currency and you are looking at closer to 15%. The policy change by LL was as with the gambling ban ill thought out and poorly implemented. What I want to know (and have not seen anything about) is wast LL are planning to do to the managers of the banks who have NOT returned deposits ... if these fund have been transferred offworld then it is LL that are responsible for permitting this either by buying the L$ directly or by permitting the transfer to third parties.
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Lana Tomba
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02-06-2008 11:28
From: Somatika Xiao Dear "Insert Email Here" This is the secertary of the late es cargo of euprpe we are glad to enform you that es cargo has left you a giant lump sum of 12,334,331.00USD That is twelve million three hundred and thirty four thousand three hundred and thirty one dollhairs
All you have todo is send us a small tranzaction fee so we can transfer the muney to you!
Send info to:
Blah Blah at Blah City
Thank You, ~ Parson who is going to sealz your monyz HAHAHA
End of email. Spelling errors intended!
I WON I WON I WON!! Was that 30k real life cash lost?  i wouldn't keep that much in a bank real life considering debtors have access to your accounts. I've done buisness with a few of those "bankers" in SL..some were "friends" and even then..money up front...no money no build. A lesson I learned in San Diego..even the crack addicts ,meth heads and homeless had a nice bright shiny buisness card to slip to you with the answer to all your problems. This is a virtual world..just because someone "says " they're an architect..doesn't make them one...just because someone claims to be the police or male or female or sane or a "banker" doesn't make them one. If LL realised too many sheep were being led to the slaughter they had every right to demand these "banks" authenticate themselves. omg 30K...real??? ~Lana Tomba
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Wildefire Walcott
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02-06-2008 13:04
From: Lana Tomba Was that 30k real life cash lost?  i wouldn't keep that much in a bank real life considering debtors have access to your accounts. It was Lindens. Also, 
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Balls Maggs
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02-18-2008 20:21
gotta ask was JT Financial closed cause the ATM has been closed for a while
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Lana Tomba
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02-18-2008 20:35
From: Balls Maggs gotta ask was JT Financial closed cause the ATM has been closed for a while Wasn't JT Finacial part of that whole Ginko debacle? Read peoples profiles..up til recently..(now people can hide groups)reading a persons profile and checking their groups can be VERY enlightening. I've found that alot of the banks in question...all the owners belong to the same groups. Its quite interesting to find that birds of a feather and all that really does apply. Necroposting?...what is that? ~Lana Tomba
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