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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
01-25-2008 01:44
not here ;)
From: Beezle Warburton
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Caroline Ra
Carpe Iugulum
Join date: 20 Dec 2006
Posts: 400
01-25-2008 03:25
From: Cytherea Eagle
If you look closely when visiting one of my ad boards, you will notice a small copyright tag and date. I may not be in a business you care for but you will not infringe. I was smart enough to go through the legal processes to have both of my logos copyrighted.

You do not have my permission to use my logo. Either written, expressed or implied. I have contacted Flickr (Yahoo! Inc.). I have faxed their Copyright Agent the information required to have your violation of my copyrights taken care of.

I have also filed a complaint with LL.

http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne

Educate before you communicate:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#501

PUBLIC NOTICE:
No one has the right to use my logo for any reason what so ever without my written consent.

You may not like the line of business I am in but SL legalities take on a whole new meaning when violating RL laws.

Have all the opinion you want of me ALL OVER but you WILL NOT violate my copyrights.
PERIOD.




I suspect the word PERIOD at the bottom of this post is the only one that might bear any relevance to reality here.


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Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
01-25-2008 17:44
She claims to be an ad person *rubs chin*

Last time I checked, ads were about high visibility whether positive or negative, in fact negative often brings higher visibility.

Ad cutter doesn't want ads visible? *rubs chin*

Ads have nothing to do with it, nor does copyright. Can you say land extortion/griefing?

BTW, I'll keep reporting those Wig-Splitter scripts. LL seems to waste no time removing them. Please don't stop using them simply on my account. It's a nice way to get yourself permabanned. I'm sure they won't remove too many more without dropping the hammer.
Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
01-25-2008 19:07
what is a 'wig-splitter script'?
Weedy Herbst
Too many parameters
Join date: 5 Aug 2004
Posts: 2,255
01-25-2008 19:33
From: Nina Stepford
what is a 'wig-splitter script'?


A script that uses sensor to TP spam, even though you are not on their land, even across regions.

Bad enough it causes a "dialog loop" but it's accompanied by a threatening IM spam message every 10 seconds.

You can't do anything, becuae you need to keep closing the dialog box. Makes working on your own land impossible
Halstrom Beck
Registered User
Join date: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 7
01-25-2008 19:55
From: Cytherea Eagle
If you look closely when visiting one of my ad boards, you will notice a small copyright tag and date. I may not be in a business you care for but you will not infringe. I was smart enough to go through the legal processes to have both of my logos copyrighted.
You do not have my permission to use my logo. Either written, expressed or implied. I have contacted Flickr (Yahoo! Inc.). I have faxed their Copyright Agent the information required to have your violation of my copyrights taken care of.
I have also filed a complaint with LL.
http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne
Educate before you communicate:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#501
PUBLIC NOTICE:
No one has the right to use my logo for any reason what so ever without my written consent.
You may not like the line of business I am in but SL legalities take on a whole new meaning when violating RL laws.
Have all the opinion you want of me ALL OVER but you WILL NOT violate my copyrights.
PERIOD.

Oh sorry, I may have put them up on my website too, I got a good collection of your postings that go so well with them on quite a few different public boards, all I need is a youtube Vid , and even copied your super particle temprez spammers to make my own adfarming joke boards, going to put them in business in a box..........
Tegg Bode
FrootLoop Roo Overlord
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 5,707
01-25-2008 20:23
$200L per metre for 16m of crappy land surrounded by extorting adfarmers, just because it has a big particle spamming temprez lagfest sign on it?
YOU'RE DREAMING!
Give yer $200L total for it tops. A landbot wouldn't touch it.
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SuezanneC Baskerville
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01-25-2008 22:13
From: Ordinal Malaprop
I think perhaps I need some more safeguards.
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Jessica Elytis
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Posts: 1,783
01-26-2008 12:08
Ord, Lelia, you are my heroes!!! ^.^

One thing that comes to my mind..

IF she did get her logo copyrighted (as is marked on her logo), then wouldn't that fall back on the sap who failed to note it was a previously used copyright? Or do the copyright registers (or whatever they are called) have legal protection that the one requesting the copyright needs to do the research?

And if there was no copyright involved (and all this is just a bunch of smoke), is there a legal recourse for protraying a copyright on a logo where none existed? Esspecially when Flicker is making stupidity issues with Ord?

~Jessy
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Nina Stepford
was lied to by LL
Join date: 26 Mar 2007
Posts: 3,373
01-26-2008 18:26
:yuk:
From: Weedy Herbst
A script that uses sensor to TP spam, even though you are not on their land, even across regions.

Bad enough it causes a "dialog loop" but it's accompanied by a threatening IM spam message every 10 seconds.

You can't do anything, becuae you need to keep closing the dialog box. Makes working on your own land impossible
Chance Abattoir
Future Rockin' Resmod
Join date: 3 Apr 2004
Posts: 3,898
01-26-2008 21:34
In the interest of fairness, it would be nice to hear Cytherea's side of the story. She exercised her freedom of speech in just under 6 hours to the original accusation of ad clutter, but now we are into the third week from her last post and there is not a peep regarding the new accusations of logo theft and frivolous legal action. Maybe there is some explanation that has been overlooked and Cytherea could shed some light on these developing events. :confused:
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Winter Ventura
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Posts: 2,579
01-26-2008 23:38
it's hard to type a response, when your foot is in your mouth.
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Pratyeka Muromachi
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Join date: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 642
01-27-2008 04:45
From: Chance Abattoir
In the interest of fairness, it would be nice to hear Cytherea's side of the story. She exercised her freedom of speech in just under 6 hours to the original accusation of ad clutter, but now we are into the third week from her last post and there is not a peep regarding the new accusations of logo theft and frivolous legal action. Maybe there is some explanation that has been overlooked and Cytherea could shed some light on these developing events. :confused:


Are you joking or sarcastic? Those lying pukebags don't deserve any fairness. They are the attacker and SL residents wanting a visual spam free landscape are the victims. Since we have no other recourses, We push back against the offenders.
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Serenarra Trilling
Registered User
Join date: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 246
01-27-2008 05:55
See this thread:
/327/d6/233833/1.html

She deserves NO consideration, since she gives absolutely none to others.
Coyote Momiji
Pintsized Plutonium
Join date: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 715
01-27-2008 13:40
From: Pratyeka Muromachi
Are you joking or sarcastic? Those lying pukebags don't deserve any fairness. They are the attacker and SL residents wanting a visual spam free landscape are the victims. Since we have no other recourses, We push back against the offenders.


Hi Pratyeka!

Pratyeka, meet Chance. Chance, meet Pratyeka.

(Talk to Chance for ten minutes and you'll get your answer.)
Lhorentso Nurmi
Registered User
Join date: 24 Nov 2006
Posts: 246
01-28-2008 05:42
Big ad boards are ugly and annoying, but unless they display content that violates LL's ToS they're legit, right?

I would love to live in a pretty looking mainland, but it's not going to happen. Inevitably you get ads, ugly builds, horrid textures and floating, abandoned objects.

My neighbour has a cloud weather-machine that produces trespassing clouds over my property. Now that's grief.

Not as much as reporting it via an abuse report 3 times and LL not doing anything about it.
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
01-28-2008 10:06
From: Lhorentso Nurmi
Big ad boards are ugly and annoying, but unless they display content that violates LL's ToS they're legit, right?
It's debatable whether by their very nature they violate Community Standards clause 6. Some Lindens believe that they do, and many residents feel likewise, but I don't think any Lindens imagine themselves equipped to handle these on an AR-by-AR basis if that interpretation were to become policy. So it won't, I think. Instead, LL is actively looking at other alternatives, at least some of which have been discussed in the forums and the jira. They may have other tricks up their sleeves; we'll see.
From: someone
I would love to live in a pretty looking mainland, but it's not going to happen.
I think it will happen, at least for most of the Mainland. I'm not sure how or when, but LL is starting to realize that the Mainland is too valuable an asset to let it just rot away like this. Although it's decayed so badly that it now represents only 20% of the grid, eventually, it will be LL's only differentiator in the grid-connected sim marketplace--if they don't fix it before that point, they'll have a tough time making payroll.
RacerX Gullwing
Magic Rabbit
Join date: 18 Jun 2004
Posts: 371
01-31-2008 20:44
I think I found a solution for add farms in the jira but it needs more votes. Go look at it and see if you think it might be the solution you think will work. http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-894
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Serek Doobie
Registered User
Join date: 14 Jan 2008
Posts: 1
02-09-2008 14:01
The solution is to make the undesired activity *unprofitable*, whatever unprofitable means to the person doing it. If the ads are not making any money, the land can not be sold for a profit, the griefing is not getting any attention, it will stop.

I posted a comment to http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/MISC-894 (from previous poster) for a possible solution, to give each user / AV / maybe land owner the option / ability to make invisible / not see content from specific locations (a block list). For people being 'ad farmed' where they live, a very small list would cleanup their environment in short order. Being able to offer / provide that block list to visitors would handle most of the rest.

For 'travelers' the block list would need to be larger, and probably handled by subscriptions. Think anti-virus / anti-spam solutions.

I do not know if the solution is technically possible / feasible / practical. The idea looks / sounds / tastes good though :)
Bobbyb30 Zohari
SL Mentor Coach
Join date: 11 Nov 2006
Posts: 466
02-09-2008 19:24
From: Cytherea Eagle
If you look closely when visiting one of my ad boards, you will notice a small copyright tag and date. I may not be in a business you care for but you will not infringe. I was smart enough to go through the legal processes to have both of my logos copyrighted.

You do not have my permission to use my logo. Either written, expressed or implied. I have contacted Flickr (Yahoo! Inc.). I have faxed their Copyright Agent the information required to have your violation of my copyrights taken care of.

I have also filed a complaint with LL.

http://www.flickr.com/guidelines.gne

Educate before you communicate:
http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap5.html#501

PUBLIC NOTICE:
No one has the right to use my logo for any reason what so ever without my written consent.

You may not like the line of business I am in but SL legalities take on a whole new meaning when violating RL laws.

Have all the opinion you want of me ALL OVER but you WILL NOT violate my copyrights.
PERIOD.


Nothing like a good legal debate.:rolleyes:
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