I thought John Kerry was supposed to be smart?

When I watch how people are about politics in the US ...........

The pundists , the mud slinging, the smear campaigns , the character Assasination. Out right Lying about the opposition.

The number of fellow citizens so woefully uninformed yet still voicing reactionary / knee jerk reactions ..

The corruption in office, the corporate lobbyists. The amount that money influences everything.

.............................

I can see why Alexander Hamilton only felt those who proved capable and literate should be allowed to vote.

I dont agree with his idea

.. but I can see why he felt that way.

Well said! It is so true and so sad.

And its not just the people with less than average intelligence that are like this.

A lot of the people to whom Politics is a livelyhood dont understand their own constitution.

Perfect example .. calling liberals traitors.


The fact was they couldnt even convict the people who gave the secret of the atomic bomb to the USSR of treason ... they had to use espionage laws.

In YOUR mind maybe.

I love Bush... all kinds!

Finger pointed at someone else I am sure... lol... nobody thinks that they are the not "terribly bright" one... lol

Having said that, I tend to agree with you Chip. Sorry for the rib shot... hehe

49.99~% you mean...

That's EXACTLY the kind of thing that a traitor would say!

I'd like to say that out of the posts here, many well written, others well-intended even when not well represented, the above quote and the straight forward "common sense" manner it's presented make me glad I read the forums at all. For what my personal opinion is worth, well said, kudos to you.

Prokofy not a big enough target for you, Nolan?

I dunno, Arcadia. I'd really like to think you're right, but I'm reminded of Jack Nicholson's line in A Few Good Men: "The truth? You can't handle the truth!"

Prokofy not a big enough target for you, Nolan?

Semi-intelligent?

You're all wrong.

You know how Einstien got bad grades in school? Well mine are even worse! (with apologies to Bill Waterson).

I think the American people are coddled with dumbed-down, oversimplified half-truths. It's getting to the point where our television shows are more complex and thought-provoking than the pablum fed to us by our elected officials (on both sides, BTW).

Challenge people to think with their brains instead of their glands, and maybe we'll surprise the cynical bastards who are constantly trying to manipulate us.

I don’t feel the government dumb down any thing to get away with any thing HERE in the US. I think that because most people in the US are to stupid to think that it just works to the governments way (depending on the party). Good example of this is WoMD and Iraq, we were told we had to go get MOD. Truth, 100% of the UN thought Iraq had WoMD. Is this the reason we went in? No, just a good cover story. In GWB address to the nation right after 9/11 he stated that any one helping terrorist in any form would be treated as a terrorist and a enemy of the USA. Every one even the Dem said how right on that was. Right after GWB speech Saddam Hussein held one and stated his financial add to any terrorist against the US or Israel. We know allot more Countries in the Middle-East that are doing the same, but none so out in the open. It would be easy to take out Iraq with out a Large problem. Going after SA would have about 10000000000 times more problems. Iraq was a warning throw the sly to every one out there. If we said we did it because of the Money we would have to go in to SA. Any one in the US with 1/2 a brain should know this. I know this and I tend to think I only have 1/4 brain.


Iraq is one of seven countries that have been designated by the Secretary of State as state sponsors of international terrorism. UNSCR 687 prohibits Saddam Hussein from committing or supporting terrorism, or allowing terrorist organizations to operate in Iraq. Saddam continues to violate these UNSCR provisions.
• In 1993, the Iraqi Intelligence Service (IIS) directed and pursued an attempt to assassinate, through the use of a powerful car bomb, former U.S. President George Bush and the Emir of Kuwait. Kuwaiti authorities thwarted the terrorist plot and arrested 16 suspects, led by two Iraqi nationals.
• Iraq shelters terrorist groups including the Mujahedin-e-Khalq Organization (MKO), which has used terrorist violence against Iran and in the 1970s was responsible for killing several U.S. military personnel and U.S. civilians.
• Iraq shelters several prominent Palestinian terrorist organizations in Baghdad, including the Palestine Liberation Front (PLF), which is known for aerial attacks against Israel and is headed by Abu Abbas, who carried out the 1985 hijacking of the cruise ship Achille Lauro and murdered U.S. citizen Leon Klinghoffer.
• Iraq shelters the Abu Nidal Organization, an international terrorist organization that has carried out terrorist attacks in twenty countries, killing or injuring almost 900 people. Targets have included the United States and several other Western nations. Each of these groups have offices in Baghdad and receive training, logistical assistance, and financial aid from the government of Iraq.
• In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers. The rules for rewarding suicide/homicide bombers are strict and insist that only someone who blows himself up with a belt of explosives gets the full payment. Payments are made on a strict scale, with different amounts for wounds, disablement, death as a "martyr" and $25,000 for a suicide bomber. Mahmoud Besharat, a representative on the West Bank who is handing out to families the money from Saddam, said, "You would have to ask President Saddam why he is being so generous. But he is a revolutionary and he wants this distinguished struggle, the intifada, to continue."
• Former Iraqi military officers have described a highly secret terrorist training facility in Iraq known as Salman Pak, where both Iraqis and non-Iraqi Arabs receive training on hijacking planes and trains, planting explosives in cities, sabotage, and assassinations.