Voting in Neualtenburg, is it upon us?
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 09:18
The city of Neualtenburg will holding its first election for seats in our Representative Assembly (RA) this weekend. Existing members will vote using a one-of-a-kind hybrid SL-RL voting system, which provides anonymity and permanent receipts for verification. The elections are one of our fundamental goals for our first lease on Linden land which expires this weekend. Pending renewal of the lease, winners will be announced on Monday and I will turn the project over to the RA. I find this particularly exciting, because with this vote the city becomes a true asset of SL. Anyone in SL, who is interested in directing the city, may become a citizen and run for a seat on the RA.  In our next lease, my goals for the infrastructure are to make the structures habitable, bringing citizens into the city; finish three more key structures; and create events directed at exploring the snow sims. Of course, that will just be my suggestion to the RA.  If you're interested in our government structure, we have a three-branch government that shares power between artisans, thinkers, and politicians. This election is for the political branch of the government. More details can be found in the complete city constitution. ~Ulrika~
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Moopf Murray
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01-14-2005 09:24
I believe you have your own board on this forum for your group, this should really be posted there shouldn't it?
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01-14-2005 09:25
Voting? Ulrika, bow down to your King, you ungrateful peasant!!! /120/77/32957/1.html
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 09:32
From: Moopf Murray I believe you have your own board on this forum for your group, this should really be posted there shouldn't it? This is an announcement that the city is passing from the hands of the current group officers to the control of the larger public. It also marks the first true election of a representative government and announces a one-of-a-kind voting system developed to support it. It is a first for SL on many fronts and is thus quite appropriate for the General Forum. ~Ulrika~
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Alexa Hope
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01-14-2005 09:34
I must say I agree with Moopf - what relevance does this have to the rest of SL?
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01-14-2005 09:41
From: Wall Street Voting? Ulrika, bow down to your King, you ungrateful peasant!!! /120/77/32957/1.htmlSENSORS DETECT ALBY IN DISGUISE!
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 09:45
From: Alexa Hope I must say I agree with Moopf - what relevance does this have to the rest of SL? Hello Alexa. I see that you're relatively new, so you might not be familiar with the legendary political threads from the forums about five months ago. In those threads we discussed if politics or organized communities in SL were even possible. In that time, we've created the first true political parties, the first true elected representative body, and a verifiable voting system for all of SL to utilize, if they so choose. This is a milestone in SL, one that doesn't revolve around commercial endeavors. It is society emerging from the primordial anarchy that defined SL in its first years -- and it is all yours.  ~Ulrika~
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Moopf Murray
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01-14-2005 09:52
From: Ulrika Zugzwang Hello Alexa. I see that you're relatively new, so you might not be familiar with the legendary political threads from the forums about five months ago. In those threads we discussed if politics or organized communities in SL were even possible. In that time, we've created the first true political parties, the first true elected representative body, and a verifiable voting system for all of SL to utilize, if they so choose. This is a milestone in SL, one that doesn't revolve around commercial endeavors. It is society emerging from the primordial anarchy that defined SL in its first years -- and it is all yours.  ~Ulrika~ Aye, and you created this group and political plan out of it and the majority really couldn't be bothered with it. Remember? Keep it to your group forum, that's all I ask.
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01-14-2005 09:54
From: Ulrika Zugzwang This is a milestone in SL, one that doesn't revolve around commercial endeavors. It is society emerging from the primordial anarchy that defined SL in its first years -- and it is all yours. Sounds like a bit of self-important, attention-seeking stuff to me because the forum archives make it clear that the government is applicable only to the project itself. As such, I have to agree that this doesn't seem to belong in General either.
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Alexa Hope
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01-14-2005 09:58
Thank you for explaining Ulrika. However, the day that politics are brought into SL, other than in your own group, I'm out the door. If you mean governance of SL residents by other SL residents, then I'm out the door even faster. Sorry I don't share your dream.
Alexa
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Gwyneth Llewelyn
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01-14-2005 09:59
Well, it's NEWS  If SL had a TV broadcasting system, it would be certainly announced at "News at Eleven - First public election in SL". You could, of course, switch to another channel. Or turn off the TV Since these are forums, people answer back! You can, of course, do the same - ignore the news. Or complain that you don't really want to receive them. The great thing is, your opinion counts!
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Alexa Hope
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01-14-2005 10:01
I am sorry Gwynneth, but I can't see it being of any interest at all to other than project members.
Alexa
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 10:03
From: Alexa Hope Thank you for explaining Ulrika. However, the day that politics are brought into SL, other than in your own group, I'm out the door. If you mean governance of SL residents by other SL residents, then I'm out the door even faster. Sorry I don't share your dream. Excellent! That's exactly the opposing point of view to mine that existed in the other government threads. I respect your point of view. In those threads we came to an agreement that no one would try to impose a global government on SL. I have no intention of doing that at all. Instead we have created a small city where individuals who are interested in that can participate in an organized society if they so choose. This announcement is meant to follow up on those original political discussions, to let people know that we are on the threshold of completing our originally discussed goals. Further, I want to let you know that the city, just like the snow sims on which it's built, belongs not to us but to you. ~Ulrika~
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Charlotte Gillespie
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01-14-2005 10:05
From: Alexa Hope I am sorry Gwynneth, but I can't see it being of any interest at all to other than project members.
Alexa If you're not interested, feck off the thread! Don't keep coming back and posting "I'm not interested".
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Moopf Murray
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01-14-2005 10:05
From: Ulrika Zugzwang I have no intention of doing that at all. Instead we have created a small city where individuals who are interested in that can participate in an organized society if they so choose. Exactly, which is why this belongs in your group forum. If people are interested they'll go there and find out. If you can't respect the rules put in place by LL, I don't think much of an organized society created by you, eh?
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Charlotte Gillespie
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01-14-2005 10:09
From: Moopf Murray Exactly, which is why this belongs in your group forum. If people are interested they'll go there and find out. If you can't respect the rules put in place by LL, I don't think much of an organized society created by you, eh? Stop debating whether this should or should not be in General. It was created here, so it's here - the Lindens may move it if they so desire. If you don't want to look at it, don't click on it. Hell, you could even mute everyone on the thread if you like ...
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 10:11
From: Moopf Murray Exactly, which is why this belongs in your group forum. If people are interested they'll go there and find out. If you can't respect the rules put in place by LL, I don't think much of an organized society created by you, eh? There's no need to be ornery, Moopf. You've done so many fantastic things in SL. I lowered all the prices on my personal goods to match your pricing scheme. I frequent your shops. I know how to spell your name.  Do you not see that this is the natural continuation of political discussions that existed in this forum a few months ago? This thread exists to announce that SL first true democratic election is taking place this weekend. Wow! Think about it.  ~Ulrika~
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Alexa Hope
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01-14-2005 10:14
I am not sure why you are so angry Charlotte. This thread had been placed in the General Forum, where anyone can reply. Had it been put in the project's own group forum, I would not have replied to it.
Alexa
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01-14-2005 10:15
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Moopf Murray
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01-14-2005 10:17
From: Ulrika Zugzwang There's no need to be ornery, Moopf. You've done so many fantastic things in SL. I lowered all the prices on my personal goods to match your pricing scheme. I frequent your shops. I know how to spell your name.  Do you not see that this is the natural continuation of political discussions that existed in this forum a few months ago? This thread exists to announce that SL first true democratic election is taking place this weekend. Wow! Think about it.  ~Ulrika~ Yes you can spell my name right, and for that I thank you  Although how you can "frequent" my shops when I haven't had any shops in SL since the start of October is suprising, did I leave one somewhere? Dang things get everywhere. Petty to pull you up on it, I know, but I have to anyway. The natural continuation of the political discussion was your project, yes I agree. You took those interested along with you as well, didn't you? You see I've thought about it, and I really could care less if you're doing this in your little part of the world with your own group of interested people. What you do in your own group is fine by me, but that's why you have a group forum, isn't it? Which brings me nicely back to my original point....
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 10:18
No worries, Alexa. We do work in our group forum quite a bit, having the most active group forum with 66 threads and 1,295 posts! I assure you that we only post in the General forum when we have truly significant news. If I didn't feel that there were many people, who feel that this information is important to them, I would have never posted it here. As you get to know SL, you'll get a feel for that too.  ~Ulrika~
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Belaya Statosky
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01-14-2005 10:21
<generic contrary comment to Ulrika>
I'm lazy today, just fill it in for yourself. I wish they would elect an 'El Presidente' whose only function was to hit people with sticks and have men in bandanas follow them around yelling 'Viva el Preisdente!'.
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Tang Lightcloud
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01-14-2005 10:28
Actually I remember way back when I first joined, there was a mass notification if anyone wanted to be nominated for President of SL. Many sent in their nomations. This went on for weeks. Then shortly after, the voting began. Which went on for weeks. And I believe we have a President of SL. I dont think he or she ever does anything, writes anything, governs anything. And I think thats the way the majority of SL liked it - maybe it was a joke, a ruse, a thing to do at the time. So technically, serious or not, I believe that was SLs first democratic government vote.
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01-14-2005 10:32
From: Ulrika Zugzwang If I didn't feel that there were many people, who feel that this information is important to them, I would have never posted it here. So what you are saying here is that you will decide what is best for SL to know and what is important for residents to know - about a project that has caused major uproar and dissension already? And to hell with those who think otherwise? If I misread that statement and its meaning, enlighten me. On second thought, Please don't.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
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01-14-2005 10:36
From: Tang Lightcloud Actually I remember way back when I first joined, there was a mass notification if anyone wanted to be nominated for President of SL. Many sent in their nomations. This went on for weeks. Then shortly after, the voting began. Which went on for weeks. And I believe we have a President of SL. I dont think he or she ever does anything, writes anything, governs anything. And I think thats the way the majority of SL liked it - maybe it was a joke, a ruse, a thing to do at the time. So technically, serious or not, I believe that was SLs first democratic government vote. Ha ha! I actually ran in that election. I was well in the lead until Darwin Appleby dropped free objects onto newbies that called out a url, which gave him a vote, when equipped. My two weeks of hard campaigning and my lead were reversed in two days. And, yes, that was for fun, it was not real, so while democratic, it was not for a real political office. ~Ulrika~
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