Request for immediate Linden Lab action/oversight

And I am asking for LL's microscope to focus intensely on this project, this issue right now!

That's all.

If they choose to respond to my request, they will. If not, then I can decide what to do based on that.

*sigh*

- Ace

I am not one to jump onto divisive threads like this for fun or sport. But I'd just like to chime in and say that this attack seems totally unfair Korg. If you don't like their project, go make a new one. SL is about experimenting and trial (and sometimes error). I think the people behind that group have been almost brutally forthcoming with their ideas, disagreements, struggles, and challenges. They have put a lot of their dirty laundry on display as a way for us to learn something about the difficulties of this kind of collaborative project. It hasn't always been pretty, but I think it has been educational and is producing an interesting destination as well as a novel approach to examining what online community and government mean.
Be bigger than this.

Yeah God knows they should drop everything to respond to a non-issue to satisfy whatever agenda you have against Kendra specifically. Anyone who has read your replies in various posts about this group, and even in a simple thread about a waving flag can see that you obviously have some strange fixation on this group. I imagine that if you called Fey or Baccara a bitch, pussy, waste of sperm, or whatever other thing one could come up with, they might not invite you into Spellbound either. Quick, get them to pull their support for Neverland too!

Ther you go again.. I did not ask for anything for myself.

I stated you owe the community the truth.

Since I cannot pove a negative, I can't prove I wasn't there.. then again.. I may have flown by and ghosted... think that might have been possible? Are you so self-centered bo believe the world revolves around you in its entirety?

You're not even a pimple on my ass in terms of my concerns in or out of SL.

Chris.. buddy. Get ahold of yourself - if you can.

Step back and look at the post in an unemotional perspective. I have raised a valid concern that applies to all of SL - this instance simply arose in this group.

Your referring to Spellbound has little to do with this as you addressed it.

1. Then don't.
2. Youapparently didn't read the post unemotionally. It deserves the attention of the Lindens... IMHO. You are free to disagree.

Could have fooled me. As far as owing the community the truth? What is the truth?
I stated that your AV was hovering on the border of my property for over an hour --and speculated as to what you were doing.

But if you offer the opinion that your AV was simply ghosted over my property for over an hour after attacking me personally in the forums --well then I guess I'll just have to believe you.

I don't believe the world revolves around me --but for that hour YOU sure did.

uh huh.. you speculated?... about me? about what I was doign with relation to you?

And you jumped to the conclusion that I was doing something sinister?

Uh huh.

Yeah. Welcome to the world of Kendra... the neurotic.

Given your demeanor in the forums --a fairly reasonable conclusion.
Far more reasonable then your assertions about the Neualtenburg Projekt.

Korg, your initial and subsequent posts contain emotion and they are also provoking emotion in others and now you ask others to be unemotional?

There is nothing neurotic about assuming that someone who has repeatedly attacked you personally in the forums in the harshest of ways did not pop by your land to try out the Hug Attachment with you.

As far as telling me to step back and look at this unemotionally, I have. The officers in the group have the right to exclude people from joining. Linden Lab gives us the ability to make groups private. There is no TOS violation in this, or point to the many other statements you made about it (like your fees supporting them). This project includes the hard work of a lot of members, not just Ulrika and Kendra, and it is not unreasonable to expect that there is a screening process to join the group at this point. In the case of Ace specifically, he publicly attacked the members of the group as a bunch of pussies, and then wants to join it. It is no wonder that Ulrika had conditions for his joining the group.

We all know Korg doesn't read the responses. He is much like the media in that he takes little snips and soundbites where he see fit and then convolutes them to fit his incessant need to feel superior. I say we all give Korg a hug, let him know that we are full aware of his need for attention and affirmation. Korg we love you. Now drop the iron curtain and join the rest of us who realize our own ignorance. Dude we are all test pilots when it comes to life. We have our reasons for doing what we do whether that is testing the limits of online government or making a pretty hat. This world is pretty friggin large. If you agree with someone bond with him or her and move forward. If the disagreement causes you to feel that itchy need to claw out eyeballs, move on. In summary leave others alone! Stop the insane, I am the most intelligent man in these here forums, BS and try for once to articulate in a manner less abrasive and well fricken neurotic (to use your term).

So some peeps are creating a government on their own land, SL may have opened the land to them but they still have to cough up the coinage. Tell me one way this effects you or your Second Life? Make a case for it instead of just jumping up everyone’s anus with a load of yada yada they won't let someone in their club. If everyone belonged to every group then we wouldn't really need groups now would we?

Being a human, it is absolutely impossible to expunge ALL emotion from argument. However, it IS possible to try.

Given that, read the initial post from as unbiased a perspective as you can and then evaluate it --- by itself and on its own merits.

Is there anything pertinent to it?
Is there anything that is outright biased or is a series of questions being raised that are appropriate at this time and given these circumstances described in and referenced by the post?

IF SO, then the post is a valid one regardless of who wrote it or what you think about the poster.

do you think that SL should not have player governments? do you think LL as a private company providing a service provider, they should handle the problems that arise in game, not giving power over to the players?

i don't understand where you are coming for. do you have some kind of delusion that this is a public community?

there ya have it folks! Not valid.

Anyone who has dealt with me in world knows I think virtual sex is ridiculous.. so the hug attachment you refer to is equally not something that appeals to me. You assume much grasshopper.

My original post, as much as you want to dismiss it, has to do with public self-abasement as a condition of joining a group - not the person or past experience with the group. In the real world, this is equivalent to hazing and other politically correct terms. At its very core, such actions by a group are counter to the core values of the TOS written and published by LL - at least, that is my argument. If LL disputes that, then I am asking for a statement to that fact. If they agree, then I am asking for a statement to that effect and an explanation of what they intend to do.

Where is the problem?

I could care less whether any individual person is or is not in any group. That is not the point. The proposal presented and approved for the project has been published and is available for all to read. The forums are open to paying members. I am not out of line, I am sure, asking for clarification about whether somethting that is apparently occuring in world - and being reported in the forums - both public spaces - is what LL intends "the face of SL" to be when the other "Worlds" look at us.

Is the majority of the post pertinent? First pertinent to what and to whom? But on the grand scale...uhh a resounding no. They do not affect me or you.

Is there anything that is outright biased or is a series of questions being raised that are appropriate at this time and given these circumstances described in and referenced by the post? Uhh yeah...you posted your view/opinion concerning the situation. It was dogmatic, boring, served no purpose to those not affiliated with this group and was reliant upon a single quote.

Korg please do us all a favor and get a grip. One group in SL is not going to destroy your reign of intellectual terror over the basest of us. LL is not endorsing this group. They just made a peice of unused server space available to them. If you wished to do the same I would back you 150%. You could be the IQ king of your own castle. I would even give you some land allocation. But please leave people to their own vision of SL...let them explore the boundaries.

Please point out my personal attack? It is something I strive to not do and I would very much like to know which of my statements was a "personal attack" and not simply a calling out for actions.

For instance, here are some of your own personal attacks throughout the rest of this thread:

OMG!! Don't you people see that there is no talking to this guy. He will and always will take what you say and twist it up like a pretzel! This guy is a loon. You can't reason with someone that has no sense!!

So --asking for a public apology for publicly being called an obscene name is equivalent to hazing?

I don't even see where an apology is a form of abasement. Nevertheless the situation was resolved without the need for this "abasement" prior to you even beginning this thread --Had you bothered to address your concerns with either myself, Ulrika or the person you feel was so wronged --you would have known this.

Instead, you chose to pursue a personal vendetta -- Sorry, Korg but nobody seems to be buying your insistence that you are doing this for the good of SL.

korg is an example of why humanism doesn't work.

Yes, I assume that you understand something being used to illustrate a point, it was not literal. I assumed too much, obviously. Also, if hugging someone amounts to virtual sex then my god I have been promiscuous. The point, since it was lost upon you, is that if someone repeatedly attacks you and then shows up near you in the game, there is nothing neurotic about thinking they are not there for pleasantries, but to cause further harm.

Uh oh, there you did it. The last time I called someone a loon, I ended up with them calling me pretending to be an attorney. Just play dumb if someone calls asking for MrsJakal!

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