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An interesting bit of hypocrisy

Seth Kanahoe
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08-31-2005 23:13
From: Nolan Nash
Possibly because the thread is about highlighting the hypocrisy of a couple of the individuals present.


Yeah, you're right. Personally, though, I think the Linden reaction, and the obvious fact that others in the group did not necessarily take the same approach as several "powerful" (heh, that's funny) individuals, is the bigger story.
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Beau Perkins
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08-31-2005 23:19
I started a post last week about a group I called the LCC. Land Controlling Community.

/120/91/58812/1.html

Some people laughed at the idea. The more I think about this meeting the more I see how correct I was. Two of the biggest land holder I know were in this group. If there was an announcement about this I wouldn't feel so uneasy. Prok has blasted the Lindens just for talking technical aspects in IRC with some player yet this meeting is acceptable? If it was an open meeting, why was it not handled like a town hall?

The LCC is very real, this is living proof. Own lots of land, pay LL bills, get thier ear. This is not sitting well with me at all.

Can someone confirm this is an actual chat log and meeting agenda?
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Nolan Nash
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08-31-2005 23:20
From: Seth Kanahoe
Yeah, you're right. Personally, though, I think the Linden reaction, and the obvious fact that others in the group did not necessarily take the same approach as several "powerful" (heh, that's funny) individuals, is the bigger story.

I agree, and it is almost comical. I just hope next time there is an announcement.

As a side note: open enrollment doesn't mean squat if the general population doesn't know what the group is called.
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Shadow Weaver
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08-31-2005 23:22
If this is a fabricated meeting it was well done.

If not all I can say is for those that think they are better than me better get a grip on thier ankles and pull real hard.
When they hear a POP then they might smell Reality instead of that putrid odor of thier anus.

Now while some of the points of intrest do need to be looked at.
The tone of those that have an arrogant stance that they feel they have the right to control others reeks of stupidity.

I have been off the forums for quite a while keeping my mind wrapped around RL and dealing with the hardships therin.

However, this this is simply wrong and as has been stated time and again should have been brought to the publics attention.

Whats even sadder is with the "Guidelines" of the forum rules we are unable to directly address specifics without the possiblity of being chastized for assaulting someone.

People need to wake up as whats happening RL with our World Leaders is starting to take place right here in our own world of SL with the "Money Power Defacto" thinking they can influence the creators and Leaders of SL.

Sad at best.

Sincerely, Shadow Weaver
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Taco Rubio
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08-31-2005 23:33
Cool! it really is open enrollement, I'm in! (find>groups>metaverse justice watch>join) I can't wait to share our group's new agenda with our overlords! Finally, we can get rid of you riffraff!

I like this key: !

Taco!
Siggy Romulus
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08-31-2005 23:34
From: Lo Jacobs
Who elected these people? I do not want them being delegates for me. Why did this happen? I am very confused.


Are you $ure you want the an$wer to that que$tion?
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Merwan Marker
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08-31-2005 23:35
Could the recent GOM situation have scared people to the degree that now they want a seat at the table and thus be protected from it happening to them?

It is comical!


:D :D
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Lo Jacobs
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08-31-2005 23:36
From: Siggy Romulus
Are you $ure you want the an$wer to that que$tion?


I don't know, it i$ $ure to confu$e me more.

Math ha$ never been one of my $trong point$.
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Siggy Romulus
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08-31-2005 23:38
From: Lo Jacobs
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But Lo, you gotta see 'teh funneh' in it - 'Yesterday I invented FIC , now I are one!'

Honestly I find this soooo humorous on so many levels.. .just when I'm done laughing my arse off at one part, I see another part that makes me giggle anew.

As for 'fuck him' - well I wouldn't subject lil freddy to that kind of hypothermia :)
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Seth Kanahoe
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08-31-2005 23:39
From: Siggy Romulus
Are you $ure you want the an$wer to that que$tion?


I come back to the same question I've always asked about SL: What possible interest could a virtual world that look$ and act$ like the real world have for me? I already "own" my real world. ;)
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Shadow Weaver
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08-31-2005 23:43
From: Siggy Romulus
But Lo, you gotta see 'teh funneh' in it - 'Yesterday I invented FIC , now I are one!'

Honestly I find this soooo humorous on so many levels.. .just when I'm done laughing my arse off at one part, I see another part that makes me giggle anew.

As for 'fuck him' - well I wouldn't subject lil freddy to that kind of hypothermia :)


Siggy your MY HERO!!!
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Aliasi Stonebender
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08-31-2005 23:44
From: Seth Kanahoe
Yeah, you're right. Personally, though, I think the Linden reaction, and the obvious fact that others in the group did not necessarily take the same approach as several "powerful" (heh, that's funny) individuals, is the bigger story.


Indeed, the Linden reaction heartens me.

In any case, no, I don't own a shitload of sims, no, I don't pay my current monthly income to LL every month in bills, and I generally don't have much use for in-game money except insofar as I'm a clothes and gadget freak who isn't so hot with texturing and is hot enough to do gadgets, but also lazy. (Sure, I'm a content creator in a minor sense - I do make games and gadgetry and builds of my own... but LL isn't getting but $45 from me, plus, indirectly, another $18 or so due to my involvement in Neualtenburg.)

I'm STILL a stakeholder in Second Life; I wish it to remain and grow and expand.
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08-31-2005 23:59
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This meeting was arranged by a group calling themselves the "Metaverse Justice Watch" or the MJW. They claim to be an open group, but at their organizational meeting they specifically said they wanted to keep certain "types" out of the group. They also wanted to request the Lindens remove all "press" from this meeting. Though the voice vote on removing the press appeared to pass they ended up not actually asking the Lindens...
<<<< Editorial >>>>


EH - If you would be so kind as to drop a note card on me inWorld with the names of the people who voted to remove the press from this meeting I would be very appreciative.


Thank you.


:cool:
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Lo Jacobs
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09-01-2005 00:01
From: Merwan Marker
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This meeting was arranged by a group calling themselves the "Metaverse Justice Watch" or the MJW. They claim to be an open group, but at their organizational meeting they specifically said they wanted to keep certain "types" out of the group.


I have joined this group.

I am now a stakeholder too! :cool:
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Nolan Nash
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09-01-2005 00:02
So a friend of mine asks for the name of the group, and then joins.

Then he asks when the next meeting is.

He is informed that the next meeting is only open to "representatives".

It's 14-0 and it's not even halftime yet!

GO METAVERSE JUSTICE WATCH TEAM!
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09-01-2005 00:03
From: Lo Jacobs
I have joined this group.

I am now a stakeholder too! :cool:



About time you joined!



LoL
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09-01-2005 00:08
From: Nolan Nash
So a friend of mine asks for the name of the group, and then joins.

Then he asks when the next meeting is.

He is informed that the next meeting is only open to "representatives".

It's 14-0 and it's not even halftime yet!

GO METAVERSE JUSTICE WATCH TEAM!




"Representatives" of what??????


:confused:
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09-01-2005 00:09
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From: someone
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex.

The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

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Nolan Nash
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09-01-2005 00:15
From: Merwan Marker
"Representatives" of what??????


:confused:
Apparently what Beau labeled as the LLC.

One should take a look at the officer roster for "Metaverse Justice Watch".

I guess they are the New World Order "representatives", and I ain't talking pro-wrestling here (or am I?) :confused:
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Torley Linden
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09-01-2005 00:16
From: Nolan Nash

I guess they are the New World Order "representatives", and I ain't talking pro-wrestling here (or am I?) :confused:


Maybe you're thinkin' of comic books.
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09-01-2005 00:19
Dammit, *I* want to know what dental plan the Linden employees have. :p
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Nolan Nash
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09-01-2005 00:20
From: Torley Torgeson
Maybe you're thinkin' of comic books.

Metaverse Justice Watch... Hmmm...

Sort of sounds like it doesn't it? Or am I thinking of the KGB? Will have to think more on it.
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09-01-2005 00:24
There is such sweet irony that Anshe is the spokes person of this group!



:)
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AnneDroid Lily
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09-01-2005 00:32
From: Merwan Marker
As a major stakeholder in Second Life, I am committed to openness and the free flow of information - thus I request the following:
1) The name of this group
2) The officers names
3) The founding officer's name
4) Members Names


The group is easy to Find.
1) Metaverse Justice Watch
2) Anshe Chung
Cocoanut Koala
Juani Wu
Prokofy Neva
Shaun Altman
Zeppi Schlegel (didn't he quit?)
3) Anshe Chung
4) there are more than 48 members, i won't bother to list them.

It maybe interesting to note that they seem to unwilling to promote general members to officer status. The current leadership of this group seems very biased and lacking in general manners (especially when it comes to forum posting). I wonder if I could hold a meeting and get two of the top lindens to attend on short notice... doubtful at best, and I've been around 15% longer than Anshe.

I am very grateful that Philip to a strong stance about open information disemination, despite Anshe's instance that she's better and more deserving of special consideration than the rest of us poor plebes. I wonder if the group will be as forthcoming when they receive the requested documentation.
Kris Ritter
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09-01-2005 00:36
From: Merwan Marker
There is such sweet irony that Anshe is the spokes person of this group!


You are just jealous of one business girl because you are talentless hack who do nothing for community! :D
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