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Why Am I suspended?

Adohan Zephyr
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Join date: 20 Sep 2004
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12-01-2004 06:15
I've just gone to sign in and I'm suspended untill the 3rd, I havn't even logged on sicne yesterday, whats going on? :confused:
Kris Ritter
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Join date: 31 Oct 2003
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12-01-2004 06:21
You can't ask that here. Seriously.

No really! I mean it. You can't. It's against the rules.

Oh, and the Lindens won't tell you either, even if you spoke to them directly.

So suck it up and learn from whatever it is that you don't know you did and don't do it again.
Talen Morgan
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12-01-2004 06:24
From: Kris Ritter
You can't ask that here. Seriously.

No really! I mean it. You can't. It's against the rules.

Oh, and the Lindens won't tell you either, even if you spoke to them directly.

So suck it up and learn from whatever it is that you don't know you did and don't do it again.



No, he can ask that here but he can't appeal it here. I still haven't seen this rule either :confused:
Willow Zander
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12-01-2004 06:26
In your email it should at least say WHY... like a brief description..

when I got my warning I knew i had been warned for indecency in Ahern... *innocent*
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Kris Ritter
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12-01-2004 06:28
From: Talen Morgan
No, he can ask that here but he can't appeal it here. I still haven't seen this rule either :confused:


Ok. He can ask. But no one is gonna be able to tell him :)

And as soon as he says 'but I havent done anything...' it'll be construed as an appeal.
Talen Morgan
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Join date: 2 Apr 2004
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12-01-2004 06:34
From: Kris Ritter
Ok. He can ask. But no one is gonna be able to tell him :)

And as soon as he says 'but I havent done anything...' it'll be construed as an appeal.


Well right now all he can really say is he didn't know what he did. When he says I didn't do it or please help me then we need to call in the dogs...but then there is the fact that we are discussing the issue and that could outweigh any plea as long as he doesn't plea a lot, too long, or too hard.
Adohan Zephyr
Bang bang
Join date: 20 Sep 2004
Posts: 216
12-01-2004 06:51
NO Email telling me anything has arived.
Kris Ritter
paradoxical embolism
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12-01-2004 06:53
From: Adohan Zephyr
NO Email telling me anything has arived.


Did you email support? And what was the message you got on trying to log in? I wasnt aware that it actually told you in the client that you were suspended and the period?
Chromal Brodsky
ExperimentalMetaphysicist
Join date: 24 Feb 2004
Posts: 243
12-01-2004 06:54
We don't know why you're suspended. We can't help you. We don't know if you're right or wrong, or if/how you violated the ToS. There's nothing we can do, please don't post these questions here.
Shadow Weaver
Ancient
Join date: 13 Jan 2003
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12-01-2004 06:54
You know I can understand keeping real life identies secret. But to keep appeals for suspension secret is is is I better bite my tongue before I get suspended for making inteligent commentary.

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Malachi Petunia
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Join date: 21 Sep 2003
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12-01-2004 06:56
Some people have reported that the SL mailer (or ISP or IP address range) is either blocked as a spam originator or is regularly shifted to "spam" boxes by public mail accounts.

That is not to say that SL is a spammer, just that they have accidentally been blacklisted by some services. It is also possible that they didn't send you mail, but like Kris said, whatever it was that you don't know you were doing, please stop. :confused:
Kris Ritter
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12-01-2004 06:57
From: Chromal Brodsky
please don't post these questions here.


Why? He can ask. We just cant answer :)

And given the length of time it takes for support to respond to anything, I can understand the frustration. Especially if they haven't even done him the courtesy of notifying him by email.
Talen Morgan
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12-01-2004 07:00
From: Kris Ritter
Why? He can ask. We just cant answer :)

And given the length of time it takes for support to respond to anything, I can understand the frustration. Especially if they haven't even done him the courtesy of notifying him by email.


I thought he could ask and we could answer but he couldn't make appeals?

Mybe there should be public executions...then we would all know whats goin on.
Blake Rockwell
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12-01-2004 07:00
They probably can't tell him why via email because they have to investigate..and without evidence..accusations could possibly result in law suits..they probably take precausion regarding disclosure.
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Kris Ritter
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12-01-2004 07:02
From: Blake Rockwell
They probably can't tell him why via email because they have to investigate..and without evidence..accusations could possibly result in law suits..they probably take precausion regarding disclosure.


I hope not. Because I would be even more pissed at being suspended in a 'guilty til proven innocent' style pre-suspension investigation than I would about something they actually perceived that I did wrong, even if I didnt agree.
Shadow Weaver
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12-01-2004 07:03
Hmmm so Punish first, Investigate and then if wrong just dont say jack and leave em wondering...Hmmm interesting.

Glad Real life isnt like that. Least in a Court you know why your spending 40 odd years in jail even if they make a mistake in the judicial process.


O well back to biting tongue
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Moopf Murray
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12-01-2004 07:03
From: Blake Rockwell
They probably can't tell him why via email because they have to investigate..and without evidence..accusations could possibly result in law suits..they probably take precausion regarding disclosure.


If they can't tell him by email because they're investigating - why is he suspended. Do you have that little thing called innocent until proven guilty in the US? I wonder.
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Kris Ritter
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12-01-2004 07:03
From: Talen Morgan
I thought he could ask and we could answer but he couldn't make appeals?

Mybe there should be public executions...then we would all know whats goin on.


Well, I mean't that he can ask but we can't possibly tell him why. Not that it wasnt allowed. You were right the first time, I think. But then what's an appeal and what isnt?
Shadow Weaver
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12-01-2004 07:05
Take teeth off tongue again ...In all honesty the moment he asked Why was the start of an appeal....kinda like a kid going "but Why? daddy!!"

Clamps teeth down harder mumbling I will keep my mouth shut I will keep my mouth shut.
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Talen Morgan
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12-01-2004 07:05
From: Kris Ritter
Well, I mean't that he can ask but we can't possibly tell him why. Not that it wasnt allowed. You were right the first time, I think. But then what's an appeal and what isnt?



Better yet who does the appeal have to be directed to for it to get the thread closed. Is it an appeal to forum members or an appeal on the forum to the Lindens?
Moopf Murray
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12-01-2004 07:07
From: Shadow Weaver
Take teeth off tongue again ...In all honesty the moment he asked Why was the start of an appeal....kinda like a kid going "but Why? daddy!!"

Clamps teeth down harder mumbling I will keep my mouth shut I will keep my mouth shut.


That's not an appeal, it's an enquiry for information. 'But I'll be a good boy','I didn't mean it','Sorry, I won't do it again' - they're appeals. 'Why am I suspended?' is just an enquiry for information. There is a huge difference that either LL don't understand or that Jeska choses to ignore in interpretation.
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Khamon Fate
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12-01-2004 07:09
From: Blake Rockwell
They probably can't tell him why via email because they have to investigate..and without evidence..accusations could possibly result in law suits..they probably take precausion regarding disclosure.


there's no chance of a viable lawsuit. we're clearly told that ll can cancel our account at any time for no reason at all. they don't have to prove anything.
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Blake Rockwell
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12-01-2004 07:12
From: Kris Ritter
I hope not. Because I would be even more pissed at being suspended in a 'guilty til proven innocent' style pre-suspension investigation than I would about something they actually perceived that I did wrong, even if I didnt agree.


Well..depending on the strength of the evidence..if it's pure speculation I see your point..but many are put under arrest before actual trial and judgement/sentencing are placed and evidence is presented in a Court of Law.
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Kris Ritter
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12-01-2004 07:13
Well I think all this really proves, though it doesn't help the original poster much, is that Linden policy is as clear as mud.

And frankly, keep quoting the same bit of the ToS doesn't make it any clearer when it all comes down to individual interpretation and application of that wording, which is the main source of the Lindens inconsistencies in dealing with stuff in general.
Kris Ritter
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12-01-2004 07:15
From: Blake Rockwell
Well..depending on the strength of the evidence..if it's pure speculation I see your point..but many are put under arrest before actual trial and judgement/sentencing are placed and evidence is presented in a Court of Law.


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