nudge, nudge, wink, wink

true dat.

I think someone should ban you, Schwanson.

Problem solved.

I agree 100%

I've refrained from posting out of respect for the dead horse. I'm disappointed not to have found the location of the wake since they include free food and booze where I come from.
Since it keeps being kicked back up to the top of the list, I'll resurface here in support of this post although there were many of Coco's post which rang just as true.

I'm still holding out for self control. The need for LL intervention is sad.

Shouldn't we seperate the man from the ideas?

I mean I haven't experienced Prok on the forums as much as some here, but in scanning the most recent posts it occurs to me that it is his opinions that cause the most concern. This does not mean he is necessarily a bad person per se. He does degenerates into name calling at times but dont we all? And he recieves almost as much back.

I met Prok in-world and (perhaps foolishly), accepted SL "friendship."

As a result I am now honor-bound not to say anything negative about him on the forums, (clever strategy on his part maybe?)

You too can do the same!

Set yourself free!
Find Prok in SL and offer him friendship.
Forget about all the name calling.

You need never need to think up nasty things to say about him again.

Works for me.

Seperating someone from their ideas is naive, as it is our ideas and experiences that make us who we are. Seperating someone from the condescending, self-centered, attention-whoring, inferiority-complex inspired social paranoia they spew all over like bile when they post those ideas is just stupid, as it reflects how they treat those around them, and how they should be treated in return.


As for friendship.. I have better taste than that.

Diane,
I'm here to offer you an escort to a safe house but we have to leave right now. I hope I'm not too late.

Holy **** you have no idea how many things are wrong with that.

You're not going to modify people's behavior who are denigrated by Prokofy on a daily basis. Any ground you gain will be lost after the next round of bombastic assaults on people's characters made by the instigator. Maybe you need to go to the well spring if you would really like all this nonsense to stop. Chiding one side, the reactionary side at that, is a lost cause. You're fighting the natural human response to being attacked.

I like Prok. He's an all around decent guy really, despite what is posted in the forums. But then I think that is true of many of us. Its very easy to lambast in the forums, much harder in person. I have noticed also that everyone seem to get thier knickers in a twist over the slightest think in the forums (myself deciddely included). So I disgaree, respectfully, with Ingrid. You can like a man and yet dislike his idead, or more likely, the way he expresses those Ideas.

The shunning was an organized attack designed to hurt someones feelings, and therefor I think it was a damned poor show. If I were a linden, I would have some down on it a bit harder, but thankfully I am not that respopnsible. If you wanted to avoid Prok, then it would be simple to put him on ignore, without the the tasteless slam-book shunning. Thye fact is I still see posts that go out of thier way to point out Prok is on ignore.

I don't know Prokofy personally. The only time I have ever interacted with her/him in-world is when s/he made a request for something of mine, and I granted it.

What I respond to, or ignore, is what s/he posts here on the forums. S/he posts here, I respond accordingly, here, where s/he posts it.

If someone approaches me with civility, I will respond in kind, even if our views are vastly different. If someone immediately makes assumptions and lashes out for no real reason, accussing anyone who doesn't agree with them of some nefarious or self-serving, community-harming motives, it will most definitely taint my view of them. I don't see any need to restrict expressing that view because some believe a person's words and actions shouldn't have consequences or that they don't reflect the real person. That should be a consideration before the expression, not afterward. Unlike a face to face conversation, we have a Delete key and a Backspace key at our disposal. If someone doesn't have enough self control to use it, that is entirely their problem, and very much reflects on them.

I'm an adult, and most adults realize there are consequences to actions. Ours, and other peoples' as well. Prokofy has spoken and acted, often and at great, great length, and these are the consequences. S/he can either deal with them, or shut up. S/he seems to realize and accept this, and yet her/his defenders don't.

Actually the first thing I look for in my friends is honesty - of all my friends, the ones I admire and respect the most are those that let me know when I'm being a dickhead.

Siggy.

Prokofy has a posse?

Dunno, its hard to tell.. thats probably why Jon used s/he...

I do feel a ... little... dizzy

did I just say Prok was my friend?

oh well, too late now

A posse, huh? Hmm.. more likely just alts. :hrugs::

I've chatted with Prokofy inworld a couple of times and the thing that amazed me was that we actually had a decent conversation!

I have no issue with Prok's ideas or views, I just tend to like to hold conversations with other people who are not padding thier post with college literati bullshit. Anyone who follows that path, even if it thier 'style' or 'them' knows that it is just a button-push fest.

The thing is... if you read through all the garbage, there are some interesting topics to discuss - it's just that most don't care to wade through the sewer to enter the discussion.

Oh well.

One more comment. I somehow missed this great event: The Shunning, but I think considering all that has transpired from all sides, this action was not that out of line. I know this may not be a popular idea, but if someone is getting a group whipped up into a frenzy, maybe the best thing to do was to take a siesta from that individual and ignore any/all communications for a period of time.

It's not a 'nice' thing to do to someone, but certainly they were dishing out much nice over the last few weeks. Two wrongs make a right? Nah. But someone at some point had to put a stop, even a temporary one, to the biting.

Nuff Said

Contrary to the belief held by a few people palsied with hysteria blithering, 'omg omg omg people are actually ignoring someone who is an utter jackass and paranoiac attention whore -- the shame! THE SHAME!', there was no mass 'shunning'. There was simply one comment saying if this sad woman bugs you, use the ignore button.... and a good number of folks, myself included, affirming that, indeed, it was a damn good idea considering the constant shit-stirring and general agitprop that the poor woman in question creates. Still is, actually.

Myself, I decided to make an object lesson out of it and actually run around the forums acting like her, alas, few 'got it'. Not even when I posted this insanely overdone image and went about being as deliberately opposite myself as possible. Couple of folks actually crawled out of the woodwork to 'take offense'. (chuckle)

The people insisting 'some great evil' happened just because ten or so people decided to actually tune out the jackass have my pity. I can't imagine what it must be like to think every time any number of people agree on anything, it is some evil conspiracy.

I actually thought the shunning was GREAT

I mean the reaction was moronic, but the consequences were very very positive.

Unfortunately for some bizarre reason you people can't go back to the shunning, you just desperately need to return to your flaming ways.

Do us all a very very big favor - put prokofy back on ignore. The forums will be a much better place for us all.

I'm sorry, dear, I couldn't move fast enough. Must be the lag.

I never took part in it.. like I said, I missed it somehow. But, as for my flaming ways (!), I only give the love and respect that we see from Prokofy.

This doesn't matter to self appointed victims. You have responded to prokofy in "less" than desirable terms as seen by the those who REFUSE to look to the origin. It's absolutely amazing. It really is. It requires a special brand of self imposed blindness.

What can one do beyond exposing it at every turn? Nothing. There will still be the wry little blazes, whose ideals are only in step with monsters like Prokofy. Shrug. What will we do?

If you argue with them your an asshole, if you ignore them, you're an asshole.

I think wet-nurses is a closer fit.