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Roseann Flora

/wrist

Join date: 7 Feb 2004

Posts: 1,058

06-12-2005 12:07

Thanks I will have to check it out

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Cristiano Midnight

Evil Snapshot Baron

Join date: 17 May 2003

Posts: 8,616

06-12-2005 13:58

From: Prokofy Neva

I'm for allowing it, because the Lindens' partnership and enabling of third-party sites which take photos, blogs, and therefore notecarded inworld private chat and photos taken without permission, renders their TOS meaningless. The Internet has defeated their restrictions and their wary censorship. Long Live the Internet.
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While on your TOS rampage, please point to the part of the TOS that covers anything about snapshots? The whole "photos taken without permission" thing, while certainly impolite I suppose, is not a TOS violation. I can come take a picture of yoru avatar if I want to - you have no control over that, and it is not a TOS violation.

Now also while on your rampage, you may want to notethat I went beyond the TOS, which says absolutely nothing about this issue at all, and put this into the Terms of Use for Snapzilla:

From: Snapzilla Terms of Use

The primary subjects in any snapshot, defined as those who are the focus of the image (but not incidental background subjects), should be asked for consent prior to submitting a snapshot. The primary subjects of a snapshot have a right to request the removal of that image for any reason. To request removal, please contact [email]remove@sluniverse.com[/email] . Include a link to the image in question, and it will be investigated. We reserve the right to make the ultimate determination regarding removal.

I know you don't like to give credit for anything, but I thought I would at least point out that instead of complaining about "photos taken without permission" being part of the pernicious TOS skirting, which is not a TOS violation, you should understand that mechanisms were put in place on those third party sites you dislike so much to handle what is not even a TOS violation.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

06-12-2005 14:13

Could we please move this conversation to classifieds / offtopic?

While we appreciate that someone is creating services for SL, this is clearly spam.

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"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Nolan Nash

Frischer Frosch

Join date: 15 May 2003

Posts: 7,141

06-12-2005 14:19

From: blaze Spinnaker

Could we please move this conversation to classifieds / offtopic?

While we appreciate that someone is creating services for SL, this is clearly spam.

At best, it should be moved to announcements. This is a fan of the site saying "hooray" not an ad. If Adam had started it, it could be construed as an ad.

Weak attempt to censor people, blaze.

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blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

06-12-2005 14:23

Give it a rest.

If this service was something new, like Snapzilla or something, I'd say it wasn't spam.

But people can just sign up to blogger.com

This is just a very sad sack attempt at extending a brand.

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Nolan Nash

Frischer Frosch

Join date: 15 May 2003

Posts: 7,141

06-12-2005 14:34

From: blaze Spinnaker

Give it a rest.

If this service was something new, like Snapzilla or something, I'd say it wasn't spam.

But people can just sign up to blogger.com

This is just a very sad sack attempt at extending a brand.

Did you apply for forum mod yet?

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splat1 Edison

Registerd Nut

Join date: 6 Sep 2004

Posts: 353

06-12-2005 14:51

erm.. brand... its a community site for all...

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Trifen Fairplay

Officially Unofficial

Join date: 19 Jul 2004

Posts: 321

06-12-2005 15:29

can we stop being so productive for a week? your making me look bad

GJ adam, and some good points prok- but lets take it as it comes. one step at a time.

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Torley Linden

Enlightenment!

Join date: 15 Sep 2004

Posts: 16,530

06-12-2005 15:43

Chulalongkorn!

You know, the Andorians have a funny saying, like "All roads lead to Orion (slave girls)" or somesuch thing. What that's saying, in effect (half of it, anyway) is that SLBlogger is pointing the way towards a tree. Meanwhile, at presentstate, it's a seed, and it's kind of funny to watch the joke posts roll out, but I've been keeping my eyes on the lefthand side of the screen and seeing who signs up and all that. It's great to see so many familiar faces but I'm hoping more people who previously hadn't had a blog, or wanted a new voice in the community, will be going the SLBlogger way. Some VERY lateral stuff going on here in the guise of genericism, which is why I digdug it.

What I'm saying is this: Let's keep writing on, so that a few days, weeks, maybe three to six months from now, we can take a look back and really put all that self-expression in perspective; if nothing else it'll be a chronicle of the cyberzeitgeist of Second Life, as expressed through a conglomerate, ragtag band of avatars, floating through 1's and 0's and hitting Appearance more than we should. Kinda like how Snapzilla started out unwittingly small but look at HOW it has HIT some major MILESTONES! Exciting times.

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Maxx Monde

Registered User

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,848

06-12-2005 18:56

The best part is you can moderate comments to your blog entries. If someone goes nuts and decides to derail some conversation, you can just 'snip' it out, or whatever.

Beats the forums, in that regard. Actual on-topic conversation between the residents that can actually play nice, disagree without going into 'nutjob' territory.

blaze Spinnaker

1/2 Serious

Join date: 12 Aug 2004

Posts: 5,898

06-12-2005 19:38

Excellent. Then maybe you and your ficcing friends can stop posting in the forums!

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Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds :

"User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."

Nolan Nash

Frischer Frosch

Join date: 15 May 2003

Posts: 7,141

06-12-2005 20:11

From: blaze Spinnaker

Excellent. Then maybe you and your ficcing friends can stop posting in the forums!

blaze Spinnaker: Join Date: Aug 2004, Total Posts: 3,074 (10.12 posts per day)

Maxx Monde: Join Date: Nov 2003, Total Posts: 1,439 (2.50 posts per day)

You'll soon be eclipsing my post count, not that I give a flying fuck, but it is noteworthy that you will have done it in less than half the time I did, and with more than double my daily post count. You left Maxx in the dust already, and he is just a few months shy of two years in SL.

Now, tell me, oh holier-than-thou, net-nanny blaze, who needs to stop posting in the forums?

Can you say "internet penis envy"?

Edited to add: Aww man, you said FIC wasn't directed at any one person(s), it is a "mind-set", remember?

How ironic that you now attack Maxx with "you and your ficcing friends" in response to a post that did not address you in any manner.

It's ok, the blatant hypocrisy has gotten to the point where it is expected now, cognitive dissonance indeed.

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Maxx Monde

Registered User

Join date: 14 Nov 2003

Posts: 1,848

06-12-2005 20:38

I plan to post more exclusively at the SLBlogger site. I encourage more to do the same, thanks. Perhaps we can have a mote of sanity in the swirling maelstrom of idiocy.

Nolan Nash

Frischer Frosch

Join date: 15 May 2003

Posts: 7,141

06-12-2005 20:41

From: Maxx Monde

I plan to post more exclusively at the SLBlogger site. I encourage more to do the same, thanks. Perhaps we can have a mote of sanity in the swirling maelstrom of idiocy.

I signed up last night, and will be posting soon.

I'll wager you 100L$, that "someone" will go and read what we have to say there.

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Roseann Flora /wrist Join date: 7 Feb 2004 Posts: 1,058	06-12-2005 12:07 Thanks I will have to check it out _____________________
Cristiano Midnight Evil Snapshot Baron Join date: 17 May 2003 Posts: 8,616	06-12-2005 13:58 From: Prokofy Neva I'm for allowing it, because the Lindens' partnership and enabling of third-party sites which take photos, blogs, and therefore notecarded inworld private chat and photos taken without permission, renders their TOS meaningless. The Internet has defeated their restrictions and their wary censorship. Long Live the Internet. . While on your TOS rampage, please point to the part of the TOS that covers anything about snapshots? The whole "photos taken without permission" thing, while certainly impolite I suppose, is not a TOS violation. I can come take a picture of yoru avatar if I want to - you have no control over that, and it is not a TOS violation. Now also while on your rampage, you may want to notethat I went beyond the TOS, which says absolutely nothing about this issue at all, and put this into the Terms of Use for Snapzilla: From: Snapzilla Terms of Use The primary subjects in any snapshot, defined as those who are the focus of the image (but not incidental background subjects), should be asked for consent prior to submitting a snapshot. The primary subjects of a snapshot have a right to request the removal of that image for any reason. To request removal, please contact [email]remove@sluniverse.com[/email] . Include a link to the image in question, and it will be investigated. We reserve the right to make the ultimate determination regarding removal. I know you don't like to give credit for anything, but I thought I would at least point out that instead of complaining about "photos taken without permission" being part of the pernicious TOS skirting, which is not a TOS violation, you should understand that mechanisms were put in place on those third party sites you dislike so much to handle what is not even a TOS violation. _____________________ Cristiano ANOmations - huge selection of high quality, low priced animations all $100L or less. ~SLUniverse.com~ SL's oldest and largest community site, featuring Snapzilla image sharing, forums, and much more.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	06-12-2005 14:13 Could we please move this conversation to classifieds / offtopic? While we appreciate that someone is creating services for SL, this is clearly spam. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Nolan Nash Frischer Frosch Join date: 15 May 2003 Posts: 7,141	06-12-2005 14:19 From: blaze Spinnaker Could we please move this conversation to classifieds / offtopic? While we appreciate that someone is creating services for SL, this is clearly spam. At best, it should be moved to announcements. This is a fan of the site saying "hooray" not an ad. If Adam had started it, it could be construed as an ad. Weak attempt to censor people, blaze. _____________________ “Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	06-12-2005 14:23 Give it a rest. If this service was something new, like Snapzilla or something, I'd say it wasn't spam. But people can just sign up to blogger.com This is just a very sad sack attempt at extending a brand. _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Nolan Nash Frischer Frosch Join date: 15 May 2003 Posts: 7,141	06-12-2005 14:34 From: blaze Spinnaker Give it a rest. If this service was something new, like Snapzilla or something, I'd say it wasn't spam. But people can just sign up to blogger.com This is just a very sad sack attempt at extending a brand. Did you apply for forum mod yet? _____________________ “Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
splat1 Edison Registerd Nut Join date: 6 Sep 2004 Posts: 353	06-12-2005 14:51 erm.. brand... its a community site for all... _____________________ Splat Soft - We exsist in the RL to! Gigas Bunny (Mule) #### You see, our experts describe you as an appallingly dull fellow, unimaginative, timid, lacking in initiative, spineless, easily dominated, no sense of humour, tedious company and irrepressibly drab and awful. And whereas in most professions these would be considerable drawbacks, in chartered accountancy they are a positive boon.
Trifen Fairplay Officially Unofficial Join date: 19 Jul 2004 Posts: 321	06-12-2005 15:29 can we stop being so productive for a week? your making me look bad GJ adam, and some good points prok- but lets take it as it comes. one step at a time. _____________________ Shops for rent, search for the Fairplay Shop Network in the find menu. Most shops only 1.5$L per prim! Come visit Fairplay Community Center location in my picks.(still under construction)
Torley Linden Enlightenment! Join date: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 16,530	06-12-2005 15:43 Chulalongkorn! You know, the Andorians have a funny saying, like "All roads lead to Orion (slave girls)" or somesuch thing. What that's saying, in effect (half of it, anyway) is that SLBlogger is pointing the way towards a tree. Meanwhile, at presentstate, it's a seed, and it's kind of funny to watch the joke posts roll out, but I've been keeping my eyes on the lefthand side of the screen and seeing who signs up and all that. It's great to see so many familiar faces but I'm hoping more people who previously hadn't had a blog, or wanted a new voice in the community, will be going the SLBlogger way. Some VERY lateral stuff going on here in the guise of genericism, which is why I digdug it. What I'm saying is this: Let's keep writing on, so that a few days, weeks, maybe three to six months from now, we can take a look back and really put all that self-expression in perspective; if nothing else it'll be a chronicle of the cyberzeitgeist of Second Life, as expressed through a conglomerate, ragtag band of avatars, floating through 1's and 0's and hitting Appearance more than we should. Kinda like how Snapzilla started out unwittingly small but look at HOW it has HIT some major MILESTONES! Exciting times. _____________________
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	06-12-2005 18:56 The best part is you can moderate comments to your blog entries. If someone goes nuts and decides to derail some conversation, you can just 'snip' it out, or whatever. Beats the forums, in that regard. Actual on-topic conversation between the residents that can actually play nice, disagree without going into 'nutjob' territory.
blaze Spinnaker 1/2 Serious Join date: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 5,898	06-12-2005 19:38 Excellent. Then maybe you and your ficcing friends can stop posting in the forums! _____________________ Taken from The last paragraph on pg. 16 of Cory Ondrejka's paper "Changing Realities: User Creation, Communication, and Innovation in Digital Worlds : "User-created content takes the idea of leveraging player opinions a step further by allowing them to effectively prototype new ideas and features. Developers can then measure which new concepts most improve the products and incorporate them into the game in future patches."
Nolan Nash Frischer Frosch Join date: 15 May 2003 Posts: 7,141	06-12-2005 20:11 From: blaze Spinnaker Excellent. Then maybe you and your ficcing friends can stop posting in the forums! blaze Spinnaker: Join Date: Aug 2004, Total Posts: 3,074 (10.12 posts per day) Maxx Monde: Join Date: Nov 2003, Total Posts: 1,439 (2.50 posts per day) You'll soon be eclipsing my post count, not that I give a flying fuck, but it is noteworthy that you will have done it in less than half the time I did, and with more than double my daily post count. You left Maxx in the dust already, and he is just a few months shy of two years in SL. Now, tell me, oh holier-than-thou, net-nanny blaze, who needs to stop posting in the forums? Can you say "internet penis envy"? Edited to add: Aww man, you said FIC wasn't directed at any one person(s), it is a "mind-set", remember? How ironic that you now attack Maxx with "you and your ficcing friends" in response to a post that did not address you in any manner. It's ok, the blatant hypocrisy has gotten to the point where it is expected now, cognitive dissonance indeed. _____________________ “Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit
Maxx Monde Registered User Join date: 14 Nov 2003 Posts: 1,848	06-12-2005 20:38 I plan to post more exclusively at the SLBlogger site. I encourage more to do the same, thanks. Perhaps we can have a mote of sanity in the swirling maelstrom of idiocy.
Nolan Nash Frischer Frosch Join date: 15 May 2003 Posts: 7,141	06-12-2005 20:41 From: Maxx Monde I plan to post more exclusively at the SLBlogger site. I encourage more to do the same, thanks. Perhaps we can have a mote of sanity in the swirling maelstrom of idiocy. I signed up last night, and will be posting soon. I'll wager you 100L$, that "someone" will go and read what we have to say there. _____________________ “Time's fun when you're having flies.” ~Kermit

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