Poll majority say they'd be likely to vote for Clinton

I guess not. He actually has a will of his own. The Neocons are afraid of him. That is why he, the better choice, lost the 2000 nomination to Dubya.

McCain was smeared by the same people behind the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth and the people who launched a smear campaign against AARP. Isn't it funny how people who challenged Bush got smeared by the same people under different names.

McCain joined with Kerry to stop the search for POWs. McCain also gave important information to the enemy when he was captive. I know some people consider these men heros, but a lot of people who were in Vietnam with them don't. I wasn't there, but I won't question their judgement.


Also Vets have been riding their asses long before Bush ran for any office. They have been all over both of them since the 70s. Bush was still getting drunk and doing coke or whatever he was doing before he found jesus.


McCain isnt electable because he keeps running and can't get elected. Sorry to inject that little bit of common sense.

hmm Mcain isnt electable becuase the Republican party would never nominate him. IS exactly right he keeps running , and losing. The Conservatives in the party would not support him, since he is much more a centrist.

Were he an actual nominated candidate hed receive a fair amount of Bipartisan support.

Hillary isnt electable simply becuase the money people wont take the risk on what will most certainly be a close election. Were she actually run in the primary she wouldnt become the candidate.

If either Hillary or McCain were seen as the best way to win for their respective parties, things would probably be different.

I dont think Hillary should be judged by who she is married to or why she didnt get divorced, good or bad. Women are not their husbands. -- Like her or dislike her on her own merit or lack thereof.

I think the first woman and /or minority president will occur in a year where one of the party expects a landslide.

whether she would be part of the land slide, OR a major upset from the underdog,

That im not sure of.

If McCain flipped and ran as a centrist Democrat... that would be worth watching if for no other reason that to see Pat Buchannan drop dead on the spot from apoplexy.

It's unlikely, but it could work.

I'd vote for Hillary just to get Bill back in the White House. You know he wouldn't just be there doing nothing, he'd be in the background, sure, but he'd still have a lot of influence.

I wonder how you would hold up being tortured daily...

Any man that went to war with the possibility of giving his life for his country is a hero and that has nothing to do with being a democrat or republican....

You should always question judgement when it regards politics....otherwise your just a follower without a voice.

If it was your father that died because McCain gave up information would be so charitable? I'm not interested in refighting Vietnam. There are some Nam Vets that have been hating McCain and Kerry since they all returned home from the war, its not a new thing, it has just started getitng coverage. I will not question their right to voice their opinions. Vietnam and who served and who didn't what they may or may not have done doesn't influence my vote. I don't care about it.

I hate her for a logical reason. I don’t trust her. She is a carpet bagger and she is as dirty as they come……..well as dirty as her husband and Bush. So really dirty.




I don’t vote for the R&D no mater what. Keep voting in the same crap you will keep getting the same crap.



The problem is it needs to stop swinging and just lay still with Liberty not the control of the right and left.



The next election should be easy for the Demarcates. Name 2 Republican that can run and win. Rudy Gulyony (Sp?) maybe but out side of him give me one big name that would get any one to get out and vote? Next give me two names from the Demarcates. H Clinton and Brorok Oboma (Sp?).

Hilary gives me the whim-whams for some reason. I can't put my finger on it.

I voted Green last time around.

Of course, I also tried to read Don Quixote in the original Spanish.

Well like all elections,

Someone will turn up for each party

and people will be either ..

(if they never heard of the person)
wow .. an outsider!! this is great.

or-

(if they have)
Oh yeaaaaaaaaah .. I forgot about . SO and SO.

If she really runs, I might vote Republican..... NOT! ok well maybe Green LOL

I am a Libertarian! I have voted for them the last 4 times.

Did any one really think the Dems really tried to get elected? I mean come on Kerry? By giving it to Bush that sets them up for next time for a name like HC.

I think it is very safe to say Hillary Clinton will not be the next President.

Takes only a casual investigation of Party politics over the last 50 years to find holes in reasons shed never even become the candidate.

Kerry actually did reasonably well against an Incumbant who wasnt battling major scandal.


I dont like it , since one big reason she wont be a candidate is becuase shes a woman.

A big deal will be made of this since of course the war wont be over and there will be sexists who will question a Woman's ability to be commander in chief (no one politically correct will say it - but it would be said)

Another is her actual - in office, on paper - political experience is limited.

She is serving in New York becuase the Dems knew they could get her elected, Not becuase she lived there.

Theres questions about her credibility becuase of Whitewater and the making $100,000 through insider commodities trading mysteriously.

Theres rumors of an affair with Ron Goldman

The Healthcare debacle will hurt her since she had her name on it.

People will doubt how much or little she know about Bill Clinton's affairs. Other people will question why she didnt divorce him.

Many would not vote for her becuase they wouldnt want Bill to have any influence over the next president.

To put it simply they wont risk the election the Dems think they should be able to win on her.

I doubt shed let them , either.

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That all being said .. Sure she could do the job.

Her Politics are fairly close to Bill's

In fact, people wonder how many of his policies were formed by her ideas. That says something as to how capable she is. (or isnt if you are a neo-con)

The fact that the democrats ran Kerry and actually got as many votes as they did shows how much effort they put into it. If only they had picked someone who was actually a good candiadate they would have won.

I don't care about party lines, I just want someone who actually has the best interest of the American people in mind when they are doing the things they do. But hoping for someone who is actually qualified for the position to get it? I might as well wish for a flying car and a free trip to the moon while i'm at it.

I don't think good people can win the office anymore. That's why the West Wing is fictional. If they have Jimmy Smits win the election for next season they'll have gone into the realm of Sci-Fi.

I disagree. The fact they got so close with Kerry was because of the dislike of Bush. The Democrat party really put little effort in to winning. They new Hilary could not win against Bush not because she is a bad candidate but because of people dislike of her and her husband and because of the fact she is a woman. I am no Conservative but I think Clinton should have been tossed out of office not for getting a BJ but because he lied. I catch you in a Lie then your out. Plain and simple. I don’t like liars in my life and I don’t want them funning government. If she didn’t win the first time she could never really run again. Now with it going to be a open White House she or any other real candidate cane run.



Well I would look at one man I liked for many years (he is not going to run any more ) Harry Browne. http://www.harrybrowne.org/



The problem is not just Matt Santos (JIMMY SMITS) is a good man. So is Senator Arnold Vinick (ALAN ALDA). That means two nice guys have won the nomination for President. President Josiah Bartlet (MARTIN SHEEN) is also a nice guy. You are so right the show is in the realm of Sci-Fi. You know that is ok. I really don’t care it is a show and it shows us what we should try for. (Side note I don’t think President Josiah Bartlet lied about having MS he just didn’t tell any one that is different then lying under oath about getting a BJ)

In the next election it almost won't matter who the democrats run. If the last election was people voting for or against Bush (as opposed to for Kerry), the next election will be people voting for or against fundamentalist christianity. With Bush's approval ratings at historic lows, methinks the republicans are in some rather deep shit, and people like Frist, DeLay, and the rest of the christian extremists are just digging the hole deeper and deeper. Terri Schivo anyone?

I agree with you and that is the problem. We keep voting against this or that. Lets start voting for freedom. Not just personal but economic freedom.

That's nice in theory, but unless you're comfortable with fundamentalist christian leadership you really need to vote for the Democratic candidate whoever it is. It would be nice if we lived in a country with viable third parties but we don't. A vote for anyone but a democrat is a vote for the republican candidate. That's just the way it is, as much as it sucks. I'm not big fan of the democratic party. I just know I don't want four more years of religious extremists running all three branches of government.

No a Vote for the D&R is a Vote for the same thing. I will never Vote for the D&R. I disslike them equaly. Do the idea of voting for one over the other is just stupied to me. I will vote LP thanks.

www.lp.org

You do know that the Republican Party was a 3rd Party and was thought to never have a chance to win. The did. So it can happen again.

Oh and if you think the Republicans are the Fundamental Christian Party look again. They are called Liberals by the Constitution Party.

The Republican Party gained popularity becuase the former 2nd party - The Whigs had been in serious decline.

The Whigs had risen with the decline of the Federalist Party.

Basically the Democratic party was by far in control of most of the government.

The Republican rose to second party status around 1856 and at that point were a true second Party. They werent a Third party who won the presidency.

Although the US has really only had a 2 party system, when the second party dwindles the 3rd party rises to take its place.

It is also true that the goverment swings conservative and liberal from time to time. Usually one in reaction to the other.

Right now conservatives run Congress and the Presidency. If they win the next election will likely appoint several supreme court justices.

History would suggest that this "sweep" would put them out of work. Since in response Liberals will gain ground.

The real problem is when any one party controls the governement, Freedom - whether Economic or Social tends to decline.

Right now as Chip and others had suggested
-- were looking at a decline in Social Freedom in the name of conservative (and religeous) values.

Personally, I need to know who the candidates will be before I can consider who I would vote for. If the republicans put up someone who has too many far right leanings, I won't vote that one. If the democrats put up someone who has too many far left leanings, I won't vote for that one either. The majority of Americans tend to be pretty middle of the road and if the parties don't put up someone who can share these values, then they will lose.

Of course, if both parties put up extremists, then it will be another election of which is the lesser of two evils. I have to say that I was not a big Bill Clinton supporter while he was president, but I would have voted for him in this last election had he been able to run. Hillary Clinton..... no thanks. The democrats would be fools to put her up as their candidate. She is extremely divisive and, IMHO, untrustworthy. Not to mention, running ANOTHER candidate with windsock views on issues would be a very very very poor idea. I mean we know that they are politicians and, like pigs, will run whichever direction the slop is thrown, but we at least like to maintain the pleasant fiction that they actually have beliefs and values.

Now I would vote for McCain in a heartbeat!