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chaunsey Crash
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Join date: 17 Apr 2003
Posts: 132
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05-05-2003 20:09
kiari,they are being held as prisoners of war,prisoners of war dont need a lawyer casue they arent criminals and arent being tried for anything.
they are simply being held till its deemed safe to release them,and considering there is still some rough fighting going on in afghanistan its not safe to release them yet.
besides,they are living beter in the prison in cuba then they did in their country.
they are eating 2500 calories a day (more then the marines gaurding them).
they are allowed to pray 5 times a day.
they are given access to showers and toilets and all wich is far better then they had in afghanistan.
those prisoners tho treat our gaurds like crap,they hurl urine and crap at our guys and they masturbate when a female gaurd passes.
they also are given tooth brushes,but they throw them in the toilet (or some have shoved it up their ass)so that we have to buy them new ones,and we do or else its inhumane.
dont pity them,they dont even deserve what they have,they are cold blooded killers,its been proven that they will take any opportunity they can to hurt americans even whil in custody.
in new york a terrorist prisoner stabbed a gaurd in the eye with a pencil completely unprovoked.
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Kiari LeFay
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Join date: 27 Jan 2003
Posts: 223
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05-05-2003 20:28
Hmm... I wasn't refering to prisoners from afghanistan, I agree that they have it better than anyone in afghanistan right now.
I'm refering to a Canadian Citizen. As far as our government knows, he isn't even being called a prisoner of war, he's just being 'held in custody' and there's been no information put forward by the american government that even suggest he's got links to alqueda. I've been following the news articles around in circles trying to figure out what's happening to him....
btw, if someone knows, could they tell me if America ever even officially declared war on Afghanistan? (The responses I get up here are mixed, some say they did, some say they didn't) which is sorta required to call the captives POWs.....
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Rivn Epoch
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Join date: 17 Dec 2002
Posts: 207
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05-06-2003 12:22
To be honest I dont ever recall hearing that we was at war with afghanistan just a war on terror and all who tried to harbor them (in this case the talliban) which was considered by some the Government there many still felt as though they was an imposed force more than a government since they overthrew the old government and some nations didnt recognize them as the government ....but when dealing with a group of people (terrorists and suspected terrorists ) they are not a nation so it would be impossible to have a declaration of war against them since they are not a singular nation they are small parts of many nations, as far as them haveing a right to leagal council I would imagine at some point they will get that if they are charged with something specific (in all liklyhood a military appointed attorney since the trial will in all liklyhood be a military tribunal )
after all we did have a trial for John walker lynd(not sure of last name spelling) who fought along side of those whom we have in custody but it was different with him since he was a US citizen he had constitutional rights as for the others they are not citizens and are not protected under that same constitution they are at this point considered terror suspects and enemies of the United States with terrorist ties and being a terrorist is a crime against Humanity.....
As for the Canadian man being held to be 100% honest i dont know much about that issue but am willing to guess he wouldnt be held this long unless there is good reason since the canadian Government isnt making to much of an issue out of it I would Imagine they really dont want him back anyways or know a heck of alot more than we do on the situation and are letting it take its corse, there have been quite a few terrorist related people who have gained Citizenship/nationals in canada amoung other places to get visas into the US for terrorist reasons...
Such as the man at LA Airport that was found with explosives ...
perhaps that is the guy you was refering to??
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chaunsey Crash
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Join date: 17 Apr 2003
Posts: 132
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05-06-2003 21:13
no,we didnt declare war on afghanistan.
infact,we didnt declare war on iraq ever,not even the first time,we didnt declare war on vietnam,we didnt declare war on korea.
the US has not officially declared war since world war 2,there is no point its just an obsolete proccess.
to declare war would be a sort of green light,the enemy would then basically have an exact moment they know,now i am justified in an attack.
its better to keep it vague till the end,also declaring war is something that should only be kept for a serious emergency like in wwII.
besides,when we take military action the president has to go to congress to allow it,so basically a resolution that passes in congress allowign use of force is like a declaration of war anyway in ways.
a declaration of war opens up various possibilities for the government,they can institute taxes and i believe socialize work forces if needed to produce towards the war.
im not sure of details but that is what ive heard.
so overall unless we get in some really serious war with a powerful opponent we will not have a declaration of war.
as for the canadian i havent heard anything,but if they havent released him im sure theyve got a reason,and they cant always share those reasons with the public.
im sure theyre not just keeping him around for the hell of it.
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