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Martin Magpie
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05-26-2005 21:22
From: Eggy Lippmann
Dude, for 200 dollars, I will personally go to your house, strip naked, and sing the star spangled banner while standing on one leg :O
You american people have way too much money.




Shit really Eggy hell baby I got a house party coming up I think I just found the entertainment for the night. Unfortunately it's for a bunch of ex cons but if your willing to pay your own airfare come on over. :p

Btw your statement made perfect sense if I was an American ;)
Eboni Khan
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05-26-2005 23:53
From: Martin Magpie
We stuck to our own value system and did not take bad advice from ppl talking out their asses.



This thread was started with people to use your phrase and not to make a personal attack "talking out their asses". When you buy that table on the notecard are the names of about 20 different avies who assisted in its creation. Any of those avatars could ahve been contact prior to making this "sky in falling, why won't LL save me" thread. So in the end that is what you did and your issue was resolved.
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Martin Magpie
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05-27-2005 05:58
From: Eboni Khan
This thread was started with people to use your phrase and not to make a personal attack "talking out their asses". When you buy that table on the notecard are the names of about 20 different avies who assisted in its creation. Any of those avatars could ahve been contact prior to making this "sky in falling, why won't LL save me" thread. So in the end that is what you did and your issue was resolved.


There are 2 ppl on the notecard neither of which could help us.
The person who did end up helping us was born a month ago.
We found that person threw another table owner.

We resolved our situation, our way. I'm am most certain this is not the last we will be hearing of this issue or issues like it.

If you took that phase as a personal attack, you found truth in it. Otherwise there is no telling who it was directed at Eboni. :p

"talking out their asses" = ppl jumping into a conversation, and giving advice when they clearly don't know any of the facts. :rolleyes:
blaze Spinnaker
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Join date: 12 Aug 2004
Posts: 5,898
05-27-2005 06:43
Hey rock on.. good to see you got the problem resolved.

A lot of people say a lot of things around here, but I have to admit I did find it kinda odd that Mr Fairplay didn't have a back up plan. Plus his tables really rock :)

Anyone find out what's happening to all that rake?
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Eboni Khan
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05-27-2005 06:50
From: Martin Magpie
We resolved our situation, our way. I'm am most certain this is not the last we will be hearing of this issue or issues like it.

If you took that phase as a personal attack, you found truth in it. Otherwise there is no telling who it was directed at Eboni. :p



I didn't take it as a personal attack. I was trying to refrain from personally attacking you, we all know what my opinion of you is.
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Martin Magpie
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05-27-2005 08:49
From: blaze Spinnaker
Hey rock on.. good to see you got the problem resolved.

A lot of people say a lot of things around here, but I have to admit I did find it kinda odd that Mr Fairplay didn't have a back up plan. Plus his tables really rock :)

Anyone find out what's happening to all that rake?


Nope Blaze it's still being sucked into a black hole. We upgraded so that no one gets a share of the rake. We did however notice that the creator name has been changed. So anyone who upgrades will then be giving their rake to that person.

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Helen Dayton
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Join date: 19 Mar 2004
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05-27-2005 09:22
From: Martin Magpie
Yes and it's still giving mr fairplay part of the take. So where is that money going?
That's what I'd like to know!
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Helen Dayton
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05-27-2005 09:25
From: Eboni Khan
What difference does it make? When she bought the table, the agreement was th Creator got his cut. If he was still in world, would she still complain that he was receiving his cut? No, becuse that was the agreement. If it goes into oblivion or into Mr Fairplays pockets, it doesn't matter that is how the table was designed and that is how it was purchased.
It malkes a hell of a difference. Yes, we accepted that the cut went when Mr Fairplay was around, but I object to pouring money into a black hole!
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Helen Dayton
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05-27-2005 09:37
From: Martin Magpie
The person who did end up helping us was born a month ago.
We found that person threw another table owner.
I'd be interested to know who that was and whether they could help me too?
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Chris Wilde
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Join date: 21 Jul 2004
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05-27-2005 11:07
I have a new game: Chris Hold 'Em

You right click a poster with my smiling face on it, click pay and send me any amount of money you wish. Then you can sleep with confidence that 100% of your money went directly to me. :D
Foulcault Mechanique
Father Cheesemonkey
Join date: 28 Mar 2005
Posts: 557
05-27-2005 13:56
Does anybody else notice a problem?

RL: Person A and Person B start a "business" where they "split" profits. Person B dies and if I remember correctly money just can't poof it has to go somewhere. Person A gets all rights and no longer has to share profits or it is given to Person B's heirs.

SL: Same example Person B is banned....money poofs......

Not a big deal per say right now but let's assume this was a money ball. That could really screw things up. No pay out? (RL this is a lawsuit and most likly could equal LL intervention if placed in a club in SL.)
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Eboni Khan
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05-27-2005 14:36
From: Foulcault Mechanique
Does anybody else notice a problem?

RL: Person A and Person B start a "business" where they "split" profits. Person B dies and if I remember correctly money just can't poof it has to go somewhere. Person A gets all rights and no longer has to share profits or it is given to Person B's heirs.

SL: Same example Person B is banned....money poofs......

Not a big deal per say right now but let's assume this was a money ball. That could really screw things up. No pay out? (RL this is a lawsuit and most likly could equal LL intervention if placed in a club in SL.)



In RL, person A would not get all rights. The rights would go to the estate of Person B, so person B's estate could either step in and appoint someone to run the business in place or person, sell their interest to person A, try to buy person A out, or sell to a 3rd party. Your business partner dying isn't an instant windfall for you in RL unless you are a mobster.




If you are splitting profits with someone, the money is not poofing, it is still splitting jsut as it did before.


If there was a money ball how would it screw things up? You dont put money in a moneyball, the money draws from your acccount.


If the 50% of the 8% take of the poker table is going into oblivion, the owner of said poker player is not losing anything. It is their preception they have lost something, but they have had it to begin with.


I don't think a banning, RL tragedy that prevents SL play (death, illness, whatever) should be an instant windfall for customers or business partners. Since Avatars don't have heirs (although that would be something nice for SL to add since people can partner), it seems just as fair that the money go into the great beyond, since their is no estate to entail it to. So it is going to the estate of the dead player. Leave it at that.


Alpha textures still make me crash, there are bigger fish to fry than this crap.
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Foulcault Mechanique
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05-27-2005 14:48
From: Eboni Khan
Since Avatars don't have heirs (although that would be something nice for SL to add since people can partner), it seems just as fair that the money go into the great beyond,


To my knowledge in business transactions do not go into the great beyond if partial owner dies. That's like saying Bill gates died, left no will, so half of what microsoft is stock wise, etc goes bye bye.

As for the money ball if it was owned by a "banned" player. No money goes out cause no pool to collect from. unless I under stand money balls wrong.
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From: Jeska Linden
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Martin Magpie
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05-27-2005 15:06
From: Helen Dayton
I'd be interested to know who that was and whether they could help me too?



Sent ya an YM IM ;)

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Eboni Khan
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05-27-2005 16:49
From: Foulcault Mechanique
To my knowledge in business transactions do not go into the great beyond if partial owner dies. That's like saying Bill gates died, left no will, so half of what microsoft is stock wise, etc goes bye bye.

As for the money ball if it was owned by a "banned" player. No money goes out cause no pool to collect from. unless I under stand money balls wrong.




No the stock would go to his estate/heirs. Bill Gates is married, if he dies his wife gets it all by default. A business is an asset, assets go to the estate. You can't take it with you, but it doesnt disappear :)

If we were talking about a money ball, there would be no harm. I dont see your point. the money ball isnt paying but that doesnt hurt anyone. The other partner could put out a money ball and have the money come from their account. I think a money ball is the wrong in wold object to use when trying to make your point.
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Foulcault Mechanique
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05-27-2005 17:10
Eboni actually the money ball could be a very valid point. Could it continue to shoot out money - never ending supply of LL. If it could not spit out money and it was the raffle ball type where you had to pay and you put money in it....oops.

Also you keep using examples with estate and heir. There is no estate in SL and there is no heir.
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Eboni Khan
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05-27-2005 17:39
From: Foulcault Mechanique
Eboni actually the money ball could be a very valid point. Could it continue to shoot out money - never ending supply of LL. If it could not spit out money and it was the raffle ball type where you had to pay and you put money in it....oops.

Also you keep using examples with estate and heir. There is no estate in SL and there is no heir.



Actually there is an estate and an heir, Gov. Linden, the repo man.


The moneyball example does not make logical sense. There is no harm no foul.
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Catherine Cotton
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05-27-2005 18:59
Takes down all the names of those who are dissing over paying that much for a table and making a profit in sl. Your Anti-commercialism :D

Hey careful don't be dissin the buyers now if it weren't for them 3/4th of sl would be empty :D If they don't buy your shit who will LMFAO!
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Adohan Zephyr
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05-28-2005 11:45
If you've bouhgt the one I think you have. (fairplay?) I think that both him and his alts were banned for being jerks in general.
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Cinda Valentino
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THe Tables Have Service, and everyone can get it
06-05-2005 00:09
I have purchased the rights to the Fairplay games, and have hired and had trained a team to help me, everyone can get service, and new updated tables! They're much improved! Anytime anyone needs help they can come to me, were working on having 24 hour service. And the updated tables will of course not be lending to the Linden Shredder. Many Many people have known about this fact and I have been helping them strait along. I have a list of people who would attest to the fact that they have experienced great service and help on their tables, and have received the upgrades. All are very happy.
I had no idea this log existed, or I would have come and stated this sooner.
Like I said, there is a new updated table, free for previous customers, and you can use whatever you've spent on a less expensive version towards an upgrade to a full version, like before. We feel that we have improved greatly on the tables and their service.
I apologize that I could not be furnished with a complete list of previous customers, I would have sent out word immediately to all of them if I had. And for that again I GREATLY apologize.

Please forward any and all requests or questions to me, Cinda Valentino at your leisure.

Virtual Gambling Accessories Inc. can also help you with your questions, if I am not available. Thnx again!!
Jamie Bergman
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06-05-2005 14:47
Capitalism to the rescue, again!
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06-05-2005 15:30
From: Eggy Lippmann
Dude, for 200 dollars, I will personally go to your house, strip naked, and sing the star spangled banner while standing on one leg :O
You american people have way too much money.


OMG dude! That had to go in my siggy... *starts off topic thread*.
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