Shadow people, Annunaki, Reptilians, Insectoids, Grays...

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I like aliens...they make funny beep beep noises, and they always lube before the probing..

Damn... you got the nice ones.

I think that SETI signal that Paul Dore found came from the Annunaki.


Lately I can't get enough of this thing called the "Super Torch Ritual". Basically the guy is saying world events since Sep 11 appear to coincide with planetary alignments, 9 month cycles, golden ratio's. He doesn't conclude who or what is making them happen. He implies they are either 'hard coded' into our reality by some unknown force, or some people/aliens are making these things happen on purpose to satisfy their cultish desires.

The more I read the weirder it gets. It's funny in some parts, he ties the "Simpsons" and the super bowl and major hollywood movies into the story. His interpretation of the Olympics open/closing ceremonies bugged me out...


He says something big is supposed to happen this weekend. The window opened May 25th and goes to June 11th.

Danica Patrick @ the indy this weekend is a "marker".

"You want to find the number 216 in the world, you will be able to find it everywhere. 216 steps from a mere street corner to your front door. 216 seconds you spend riding on the elevator. When your mind becomes obsessed with anything, you will filter everything else out and find that thing everywhere." Sol Robeson, Pi.

Have you noticed the connection between aquifers and ufo activity? I have witnessed it first hand. I saw a UFO, and know others who have seen UFO's, while living in the contributing areas of the Edwards Aquifer (an enormous aquifer in Texas that stretches for hundreds of sq. miles). This zone is primarily covered with limestone. The sibling of that is chalk and as pointed out on coasttocoastam recently, 80% of crop circles are found in England where chalk-covered water sources are abundant.

I wonder if water passing through stone causes some kind of electrical discharge or creates emfs? I'm not saying this would be the total explanation for the events, I don't know (and I certainly don't believe it explains crop circles), but it could provide the means for these things to happen.

... exist in the mind of Will Wright.

http://gr.bolt.com/previews/featured/pc/spore/spore.htm

I wants its... yesss....

I have always found this stuff fascinating. I really think that mankind has a sort of amnesia. I think that in antediluvian times we knew a bit more about the workings of our world and it surroundings than we give our selves credit for.

Example:



That sure looks like a depiction of planets around the sun, LONG before those who we consider to be the fathers of astronomy posited that belief.

I will not get too in depth about my personal beliefs, suffice it to say I think that we have been affected by "outsiders" in our deep past.

No, I have never claimed to have had an anal probe, but I do own an original copy of Von Daniken's "Chariots of the Gods", and watched "In Search Of" a lot as a kid...

Now a funny abduction story! Sorry about the grammar, it's not my writing: http://www.struat.com/justin/aliens.html

My ALIEN ABDUCTION

i remember being picked up by some odd creatures in the middle of the night. I
hoped at the time that it would turn out to be a dream, but it is now clear that my
experience was very real.
When they got me on the ship, they seemed to try to put me at ease. They offered
me some coca-cola, which i opted to reject because of the role i seemed to be
playing: they had kidnapped me, had they not??
Eventually, i was asked to take off my clothes. i became understandably nervous
and uncomfortable -more so than i was before. i was afraid and tried to imagine
what kind of weird sexual experiments they were about to perform on me.
thus it was with some relief that they did not perform any sexual experiments on
me. in fact, they seemed to in a weird way respect my privacy by adverting their
eyes away from my private parts.
what they wanted to see was my clothing. eventually, it became clear by the way
the alien that remained in the room with me was inspecting my pants pocket
that they were searching and scraping out pieces of lint.
i knew what he was doing, but i asked him anyway: "what is it you are doing, anyway?"
he told me that the only thing the they wanted were pieces of lint.
i became slightly agitated. i blurted out, quite angrily "If all you wanted was my
pocket lint, why couldn't you have just asked me to scrape all the lint out
of my pockets and give it to you?!"
the alien stood there for a minute in contemplation. Then he told me, "that is a
good idea. You know, you are the 458th human we have abducted, and you're the
first one who came up with that idea? I will be sure to tell my supervisor about
that idea."
after a moment of awkward silence, i asked the alien why it was they wanted
people's pocket lint. the alien quickly answered: "you can tell more about a civiliz-
ation by seeking out and analyzing the little, seemingly insignificant artifacts
than anything else. this lint tells us everything from the manner in
which you manufacture your clothing to the intracracies of the way you sit down.
it is the most valuable thing from your entire planet, and it informs us of much
more than you probably want us to know about you."
i pondered that for a second. i then asked the alien if i could have any of his lint,
if he had any. He obliged, gladly.
i returned to earth. that night, i looked at the lint with a microscpe. i noticed
nothing about it that was special. i decided that the alien was b.s.ing me, and
that they really just wanted an excuse to study our species in our nudity.
i was disgusted.

Conspiracy theories, UFO's, and belief in other paranormal or extraterrestrial things for which there's no real evidence is much like religion... a way to feel special and "in on it" and part of something big that not everyone is privy to. It turns otherwise rational people into blathering idiots.

I used to listen to Art Bell a lot, but I always end up missing the few good shows nowadays, and I can't stand Noory. I think most of it's bunk, but I always felt that Sitchin wasn't totally bonkers as far as the anunaki go.

Ok, so I might be considered a blathering idiot because I've seen something or think about something thats 'out of the box'? Mmmmm k.

UFOs have been with us for centuries upon centuries. Yes, there is no 'definate' proof of their existance as of yet, because a certain 'body' tends to hide it.

Comparing UFOs to Religion is not the same.
Religions beleive in the after life. UFOs are in present life, plain and simple. Anyway, I don't even come close to considering UFOs or 'aliens' being a religious tendancy, it's a fact of life we're going to have to deal with eventually, for we aren't alone.

Chip is right.

99.whatever percent of the stuff you read/hear about UFO's *is* about religion.
That includes all the Grey "Alien Abduction" stuff especially.
There is and never will be any real evidence of alien abductions, and the stories all originate with people of "questionable" background.

There have been several excellent books on the subject that (surprise?) have had almost no circulation.

Terry Matheson has done an excellent textual analysis of abduction literature called "Alien Abductions" that is especially conclusive on the subject. And there is another very good compilation called "The Gods Have Landed" edited by James Lewis that not many have heard of or read.

Most of the well-known UFO sceptics like Philip Klass and James Randi can be ignored however. Their illogical ramblings are even less likely than the claims of the true believers.

That being said, you're point about aliens themselves being real and the possibility that they have at least once or twice viisted here is a valid one and there is some evidence to that effect.

People just get caught up on the 99.whatever percent static and ignore the (poosibly real) and very minute signal within.

So what it basically boils down to is:

1. We like to think we're in this gigantic universe alone, and we are the single most important species.

- Take a look around, cats, dogs, birds, fish.

So why is it so hard to think we're the only ones?

2. People who believe in this sort of thing tend to have questional backgrounds and are typically psychopaths.

- What's questionable about a person who works just in an normal office?

Ok, so when Albert Einstein came up with the idea of E=mc2, people thought he was nuts at first, then realized his brilliance.


Some people tend to make this a cult or religious deal. I deal with it on a down to reality basis, that someday we may make contact. I don't worship them or have a need to be with them or anything, I just know a simple fact we 'may' have to deal with them eventually.

I think this guy might be onto something...

UFO's mean "Unidentified Flying Objects." If I see something in the sky I don't recognize, it would be pretty dumb to pass it off as some hooey religious stuff floating around out there. Earth has a swirling molten iron core that produces EMF's. Our brain is a giant electrical circuit board. There are all kinds of reasons that people might see things... but to lump it all into the category of religious junk is just laughable. I'm sure that the aurora borealis (or australis) were considered paranormal at one time.
... and don't even get me started on ROCKS FALLING FROM THE SKY.

Let me tell you a story as (roughly) told by a professor of a neuroscience class I had.

There was a hypothesis that different receptors in the eyes are responsive to only certain angled lines and that these receptors situate themselves to all the possibilities after the subject is born. This last part was based on the fact that if they sutured kittens' eyes shut during certain weeks after birth then they would be permanently blind when they unsutured them later.

To test the hypothesis more in depth, they built a completely white room. Then they painted only horizontal black lines on the walls room. They raised kittens from birth with goggles strapped to their heads that only allowed them to see horizontal black lines. Afterwards, they released them into the room and the kittens knew where to stop running because they saw the horizontal lines on the walls.

Then the scientists did something cruel. They put a table in the room.

The kittens would be playing, running full speed ahead and WHAMMO!, run headfirst into the table legs. One after another, they would all do this. But they couldn't see what it was that they were running into. After they did this multiple times, they developed a new behavior... Before they ran anywhere, they tilted their head to the side.

Now think about the fact that human beings only perceive 4 dimensions of space but people like Stephen Hawkings say that there are at least 11.

All kinds of things are possible, but if you villify your imagination as contributing to religious hooey instead of using it to find answers for unusual things (just like the kittens did when they thought to tilt their heads to the side), then you'll never really move on from the place you've decided to stop.

The real question is, "What kinda heat they packin?" (and where can I get some?)

I've seen something in the night sky that can in no way be explained by our own technology or capabilities but I don't automatically jump to the conclusion that I've just seen evidence of extraterrestrials. To me that's no different than the religious argument for creation, that just because something is complex the most outlandish explanation must be true. It's not rational. It doesn't mean I think it's impossible that we've been visited by beings from another planet. There simply isn't sufficient evidence to justify the belief.

I hope some day there will be conclusive evidence, because I think it's highly unlikely that we're alone in the universe, but to reach that conclusion now based on the evidence that exists would be to make a huge mental leap that isn't warranted simply because I want it to be true.

Look at crop circles. The originators of the hoax have long since owned up and even demonstrated exacly how they're made yet people refuse to believe them because it contradicts the much cooler and more interesting belief that they're paranormal or extraterrestrial in nature. That's simply nutty.

I definitely wouldn't mind visiting whatever planet you're from Torley

My point before was that it seemed like you're villifying a whole class of people because of "what" they are interested in rather than "why" they are interested in it.

I always thought crop circles were only hoaxes until I saw William Gazecki's film on it (if you don't know him, he made "Waco: The rules of Engagement," the best investigative documentary I've seen as far as the amount of clear evidence presented). Now, I don't know what to think. I don't think it is aliens, but I'm not convinced people can make some of them that quickly. Especially things like mandelbrot sets appearing in very public fields in England with heavy car traffic. The film doesn't argue that aliens did it or even offer a conclusion, all it does is present cases. Netflix it.
Crop Circles: Quest for the Truth.

The huge downside to this film is that they don't explore the hoax part so I'm interested to see that side of the story. So please point me in that direction so I can compare.

When I was taking Chinese, we got on the topic of dreams. So one of my teachers starts telling us about this dream she kept having when she was a little girl about being in her bed and seeing this bright light out her window. The bright light lands in her yard and she wants to get up but she can't move. Then there are these weird looking grey men with big black eyes standing around her bed.

Of course we all flipped. We said she'd be abducted and she laughed it off. Very weird.

-Kiamat Dusk

There was a video my friend saw about how people exposed to certain high intensity magnetic fields sometimes hallucinate things like this. But according to recent (government-sponsored) science, it's really just the spirit of communism that does it.

mms://wm-ondemand.abacast.com/prophet_yahweh/ABCnews1.wmv


Crap, I'm out of foil!

Case in point... a "documentary" called Crop Circles: Quest for the Truth that doesn't even investigate the hoax angle? I'm sure it was very thorough *laugh* Do a google on Doug Bower and Dave Chorley, the two Hampshire artists who started the whole craze.

I'm not vilifying anyone. I'm simply pointing out that our desire for the fantastical to be true tends to overpower logic and rationalism. When offered two explanations of something, one which is mundane but demonstrable and one that's fantastic and has nothing but speculation to back it up, which is more likely? If you lean towards the fantastic you're operating on faith, not reason.

Oh come now Chip don't be shy, I think we did an awesome job on the crop circles in Virginia. Necxt time though, we should bring more beer.

EDIT: Original post found inscrutable upon sobering up.