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Jellin Pico
Grumpy Oldbie
Join date: 3 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,037
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07-26-2005 10:00
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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07-26-2005 10:00
The forums have actually been really nice the last couple of weeks. I think the worst it got in that time was a Rant that ended up dealing with Trademark issues in SL. Yet even that thread went *really* well. I've been enjoying the forums lately, and thankfully haven't seen statements like yours above in a while.  Yeah. Last real drama storm I remember was that whole business about favoritism and the bank of drama that hired Bedazzled. I can't remember who started, that, though. _____________________
Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags? |
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April Firefly
Idiosyncratic Poster
Join date: 3 Aug 2004
Posts: 1,253
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07-26-2005 10:02
The forums have actually been really nice the last couple of weeks. I think the worst it got in that time was a Rant that ended up dealing with Trademark issues in SL. Yet even that thread went *really* well. I've been enjoying the forums lately, and thankfully haven't seen statements like yours above in a while. I agree Pendari. As for the topic of this thread: Poll: "Serious Discussion" forum. The only purpose of such a separate forum, would be to have adult discussion about SL. Any spam, trolling, or off topic posts would be removed. By the mods (or the person who presents the topic. unsure if that’s even an option LL would implement.) Yes or No? People voted and it seems like they like it the way the forum is. Sometimes when you put things out in a poll, we think we will get one response. But it doesn't always work out that way. _____________________
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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07-26-2005 10:03
This thread demonstrates why a "serious forum" is absolutely necessary. And why it's a silly idea and won't work. It's also great fun to see people use terms like "logic", "irrationality", "whining", "racism", "bullshit drama", "triteness", etc., in illogical, irrational, whining, racist, and trite ways, merely to create more bullshit drama. And equally amusing to see "serious", "adult", "discussion" used merely to represent anything but a serious, adult discussion. _____________________
Cristiano
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
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07-26-2005 10:03
The forums have actually been really nice the last couple of weeks. I think the worst it got in that time was a Rant that ended up dealing with Trademark issues in SL. Yet even that thread went *really* well. I've been enjoying the forums lately, and thankfully haven't seen statements like yours above in a while. I would like to wholeheartedly ditto Pendari's post. The forums have been an unmitigated joy these past few weeks. _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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07-26-2005 10:04
I have no opinion, because obviously I lack that right to have an opinion in these forums. Take a good damn look at this thread folks.
Incite anger, post off topic, intentionaly derail thread. Cat _____________________
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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07-26-2005 10:06
No kidding, Catherine.
Listen, Catherine - don't let them get to you. I am so furious I could SPIT, so I can well imagine how you are feeling. coco |
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Eboni Khan
Misanthrope
Join date: 17 Mar 2004
Posts: 2,133
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07-26-2005 10:06
It's also great fun to see people use terms like "logic", "irrationality", "whining", "racism", "bullshit drama", "triteness", etc., in illogical, irrational, whining, racist, and trite ways, merely to create more bullshit drama. The use is racist and racism were not to create drama, but to remind Catherine that I haven't forgot her racist webpage dedicated to me. The fact that she would post anything about forum reform is a freaking joke. _____________________
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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07-26-2005 10:06
I have no opinion, because obviously I lack that right to have an opinion in these forums. Take a good damn look at this thread folks. Incite anger, post off topic, intentionaly derail thread. Cat I'm not sure why you're so irritated. This thread was long-dead anyway. _____________________
Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags? |
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Cristiano Midnight
Evil Snapshot Baron
Join date: 17 May 2003
Posts: 8,616
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07-26-2005 10:07
I have no opinion, because obviously I lack that right to have an opinion in these forums. Take a good damn look at this thread folks. Incite anger, post off topic, intentionaly derail thread. Cat How is your opinion that there should be another forum any more valid or unexpressed here than the opinion that there shouldn't be. You have had ample opportunity to express your opinion - people just don't have to agree with it. You seem to want to restrict the ability of others to express an opinion that differs from yours. I agree that the multiple off topic posts don't belong here, but other than that, everything has been part of a discussion - you just don't like what is being discussed. _____________________
Cristiano
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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07-26-2005 10:07
No kidding, Catherine. Listen, Catherine - don't let them get to you. I am so furious I could SPIT, so I can well imagine how you are feeling. coco Nods  _____________________
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Pendari Lorentz
Senior Member
Join date: 5 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,372
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07-26-2005 10:08
No kidding, Catherine. Listen, Catherine - don't let them get to you. I am so furious I could SPIT, so I can well imagine how you are feeling. coco Why? What the heck are you two seeing that I'm obviously missing? _____________________
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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07-26-2005 10:11
Why? What the heck are you two seeing that I'm obviously missing? Whatever it is, it must be quite horrible. Disagreement! No, NO, NO ONE MUST DISAGREE WITH MEEEEEEEE! _____________________
Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags? |
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Seth Kanahoe
political fugue artist
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,220
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07-26-2005 10:13
Turn the original suggestion around. Create a "bullshit drama" forum. Not a "rants and raves" forum, because that would imply at least a minimal rationality and decency from all involved.
Call it "The Cesspool". And give moderators the ability to move any thread or individual post there. |
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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07-26-2005 10:16
I am so furious I could SPIT, _____________________
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Toast Bard
is making magic
Join date: 25 Jul 2004
Posts: 241
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07-26-2005 10:20
u want 2 edit someonez posts cat??????????o.000 omgz thas dumb i think
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Enabran Templar
Capitalist Pig
Join date: 26 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,506
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07-26-2005 10:21
Over what? I really, really dn't understand what the hubbub is. I'm going to be honest. I think some people see -- let's call him Martin -- see Martin having a reasoned discussion about marshmallow peeps. Martin speaks logically and makes an effective argument against marshmallow peeps. Others join this discussion and agree with Martin, swayed by his impeccable reasoning and logic. Seeing this behavior -- let's call her Janet -- Janet decides she wants to have a discussion about blueberry muffins. Janet likes blueberry muffins and wants to hold court as Martin did on the subject of marshmallow peeps. However, when Janet speaks about the blueberry muffins, she finds not everyone is in agreement. Some like banana nut muffins. Others poppyseed. A few like blueberry muffin, but for some reason, she is not enjoying the same agreement and consensus Martin does. I think the anger comes from there. _____________________
Furthermore, as Second Life goes to the Metaverse, and this becomes an open platform, Linden Lab risks lawsuit in court and [attachment culling] will, I repeat WILL be reverse in court. Second Life Forums: Who needs Reason when you can use bold tags? |
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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07-26-2005 10:24
Please stay on topic.
The forum poll results were interesting and telling IMO. I would have to agree with the results and hold this thread up as an example of why any serious discussion is not possible in the official SL forums. To drag them down to the lowest common denominator makes me realize that perhaps the grand idea of a "metaverse" may in fact be a longer wait than I had anticipated. I hear ppl claim they want nothing more than a metaverse but actions speak louder than words, it is apparent to me at least without the ability to have a mature adult discussion this metaverse may not evolve as LL or even I wish it to. Cat _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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07-26-2005 10:25
u want 2 edit someonez posts cat??????????o.000 omgz thas dumb i think lolololl LOLWhat I said was: "Poll: "Serious Discussion" forum. The only purpose of such a separate forum, would be to have adult discussion about SL. Any spam, trolling, or off topic posts would be removed. By the mods (or the person who presents the topic. unsure if that’s even an option LL would implement.) Yes or No?"Catherine Cotton no not necessarily as I said I didn't even know if that was an option. please refrain from calling ppl dumb _____________________
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Seth Kanahoe
political fugue artist
Join date: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,220
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07-26-2005 10:31
I'm going to be honest.... see Martin having a reasoned discussion about marshmallow peeps....Seeing this behavior -- let's call her Janet -- Janet decides she wants to have a discussion about blueberry muffins.... for some reason, she is not enjoying the same agreement and consensus Martin does.... I think the anger comes from there. Well, let's be honest and more open, then. I think we all know who Janet is, but who is Martin, Enabran, and exactly why is there consensus for him and not for Janet? And in the spirit of honesty, I'll say this: I'm usually puzzled why certain Martins can be seen as so reasonable and restrained, when they often behave as badly as certain Janets. What's the secret? on edit: I see. "Martin" and "Janet" are an inside joke. Two layers of meaning, as long as you know something about the groups and individuals involved. Deftly done. Not simple honesty; the honesty of a Janus, maybe? |
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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07-26-2005 10:32
I'm going to be honest. I think some people see -- let's call him Martin -- see Martin having a reasoned discussion about marshmallow peeps. Martin speaks logically and makes an effective argument against marshmallow peeps. Others join this discussion and agree with Martin, swayed by his impeccable reasoning and logic. Seeing this behavior -- let's call her Janet -- Janet decides she wants to have a discussion about blueberry muffins. Janet likes blueberry muffins and wants to hold court as Martin did on the subject of marshmallow peeps. However, when Janet speaks about the blueberry muffins, she finds not everyone is in agreement. Some like banana nut muffins. Others poppyseed. A few like blueberry muffin, but for some reason, she is not enjoying the same agreement and consensus Martin does. I think the anger comes from there.  _____________________
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Jillian Callahan
Rotary-winged Neko Girl
Join date: 24 Jun 2004
Posts: 3,766
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07-26-2005 10:33
What's the secret? _____________________
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Buster Peel
Spat the dummy.
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 1,242
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07-26-2005 10:34
I would have to agree with the results and hold this thread up as an example of why any serious discussion is not possible in the official SL forums. Huh? People voting against censorship, against having an overlord judging whether their comments are worthy of the label "serious discussion", and you think that means people are not interested in serious discussion? I voted against censorship, because I want to decide for myself what I think is a valid or serious point of view. I want to choose for myself who to ignore, and who to take seriously. That doesn't mean I am "against serious discussion". I am merely against censorship. Instead of trying to limit what I can read, why don't you just limit what YOU can read instead. Just put people who bother you on ignore. Buster |
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
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07-26-2005 10:36
Huh? People voting against censorship, against having an overlord judging whether their comments are worthy of the label "serious discussion", and you think that means people are not interested in serious discussion? I voted against censorship, because I want to decide for myself what I think is a valid or serious point of view. I want to choose for myself who to ignore, and who to take seriously. That doesn't mean I am "against serious discussion". I am merely against censorship. Instead of trying to limit what I can read, why don't you just limit what YOU can read instead. Just put people who bother you on ignore. Buster "Serious Discussion" forum Poll Poll: "Serious Discussion" forum. The only purpose of such a separate forum, would be to have adult discussion about SL. Any spam, trolling, or off topic posts would be removed. By the mods (or the person who presents the topic. unsure if that’s even an option LL would implement.) Yes or No? _____________________
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Jellin Pico
Grumpy Oldbie
Join date: 3 Aug 2003
Posts: 1,037
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07-26-2005 10:36
I'm going to be honest. I think some people see -- let's call him Martin -- see Martin having a reasoned discussion about marshmallow peeps. Martin speaks logically and makes an effective argument against marshmallow peeps. Others join this discussion and agree with Martin, swayed by his impeccable reasoning and logic. Seeing this behavior -- let's call her Janet -- Janet decides she wants to have a discussion about blueberry muffins. Janet likes blueberry muffins and wants to hold court as Martin did on the subject of marshmallow peeps. However, when Janet speaks about the blueberry muffins, she finds not everyone is in agreement. Some like banana nut muffins. Others poppyseed. A few like blueberry muffin, but for some reason, she is not enjoying the same agreement and consensus Martin does. I think the anger comes from there. I agree with Janet, that Martins just a little bitch _____________________
It's Official! Jellin, you are soooooo FIC! Fabulous, Intelligent and Cute |