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Can we all just stop the "Anit-Prokofy" Mentality

pandastrong Fairplay
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05-12-2005 13:15
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Malachi Petunia
Gentle Miscreant
Join date: 21 Sep 2003
Posts: 3,414
05-12-2005 13:20
I have a great idea!

Why don't we all ignore our dear friend....

..and then get lambasted en masse for shunning a shining member of the community and have that used as evidence of how we're all conspiritorial and have it in for her.

Oh wait, that was tried already. Never mind. You lose by replying, you lose by not replying. And it wouldn't be so much of an issue if she wasn't hell bent on graphomanically owning the forums. We've got a lying, spamming, paranoid, self-aggrandizing troll in our midst. Sure, let's rise above it.

As to your pleas of not bumping her ego, what have this thread and your on-going replies wrought?
Lecktor Hannibal
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05-12-2005 13:30
She's not a her :p
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
koolhand Koolhaas
Uncensored McGillicuty
Join date: 26 Nov 2004
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05-12-2005 13:33
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
Anyone else have no clue as to who this person is?


I've never seen such paranoid ramblings... oh wait... I have.
April Firefly
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Join date: 3 Aug 2004
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05-12-2005 13:40
Sorry for coming to the party late. I'm at work and this thread exploded.

This is what I am getting from Bob and his supporters. Let Prok do whatever Prok wants, but if we do the same, we are wrong. Does this mean Prok is SL's Sacred Cow?

As someone who is on Prok's list, I chose to withdraw from any forum thread that involved Prok, even when it was something I was interested in. This took a great deal of effort and took away some of the joy of posting on the forum.

From the sidelines though, I have cheered all the ones who have stood up to Prok.

So I say to Bob, how is it right to censor all but one? Wouldn't it be better to apply your theory to all including Prok? And by not including all in your suggestion aren't you making one an elitist and the rest of us umm a lower class of forum posters? And at the same time, isn't that a little condescending to Prok?

Just the thought that came to my head while reading the posts in this thread.
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koolhand Koolhaas
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05-12-2005 13:49
From: Lecktor Hannibal
She's not a her :p


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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-12-2005 13:50
Hah great song !
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Lecktor Hannibal
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Join date: 1 Jul 2004
Posts: 6,734
05-12-2005 13:51
On a similar note *pa dum bum tschhh* The Rolling Stones have announced another tour this year ! Last year or so we had the 'Steel Wheelchair' Tour and this year's is rumoured to be the 'Sympathy for the Deaf Guy' tour.
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Prokofy Neva
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05-12-2005 13:51
From: someone
Exactly Cienna. One of many examples that spring to mind right now was the bear project that was all the rage for the last two weeks. *I* made the bears on my own, I set them to be fully mod/copy/transfer, and Stoneself and I made every effort to ensure everybody/anybody got one and could display it.


Aimee, do you think I'm stupid or something?

Go back and read my post.

I don't *care* what your bear is/was/became.

LF asked for the template. Where did it come from? Did you make a brand-new bear template that was NOT Nicole's template? And if you did, so what? The fact is, Nicole gave her template to others, and even made them some bears.

Devlin Gallant sent me a bear. Here's the picture of it in edit-mode. It says "Devlin Gallant" as the name of the object -- that may not be so visible in the screenshot but Devlin can vouch for this.

As you can clearly see, it says "Creator: Nicole Linden" and it is on "no mod/no transfer"

There's the proof of the Linden-FIC bear link. That's all. Go on spouting whatever you need to spout, this bear with Nicole as creator, now a Devlin bear, was all I needed to make the point.
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Ingrid Ingersoll
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05-12-2005 13:52
From: April Firefly
This is what I am getting from Bob and his supporters. Let Prok do whatever Prok wants, but if we do the same, we are wrong. Does this mean Prok is SL's Sacred Cow?
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I think Bob is suggesting we bend over and take it up the ass. I don't know about all of you but I have to do that enough at work. :p
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Lecktor Hannibal
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05-12-2005 13:53
All that proves is Devlin changed the perms before he passed to you.
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From: Khamon Fate
Oh, Lecktor, you're terrible.

Bikers have more fun than people !
Hiro Queso
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Join date: 23 Feb 2005
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05-12-2005 13:53
From: Bob Bunderfeld
I agree you should. But you apparently have more education then most Cubey, because I don't see you using "Ignorant Ass" as a term to describe someone you don't agree with.



Thanks!

The irony...
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Dana Unsung
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05-12-2005 13:58
From: Ingrid Ingersoll
Anyone else have no clue as to who this person is?


Angel Leviathan
Started SL in April 2003

Now you are clear.
Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
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05-12-2005 13:58
Ahhhhh.... Prokofy.

You have to give it to him - rarely do we see a person that polarizes popular opinion in such a way. Prokofy has much to say, some of it good, all of it challenging. My issues is, has, and will be Prokofy's nasty remarks about other players. One must give a small 'kudos' to Prokofy because, for the most part, his snide remarks are directed toward a group and not an individual and as such he can be as potty-mouthed as he wants when speaking of them, becuase they are not directed at a particular individual.

Oddly and ironically, we add ourselves to, and identify with, those groups and in turn make it a personal attack. However, because it was not directed as a particular individual, Prokofy dodges the bullet. He's very good at dodging bullets as we've seen.

For that, Bravo man! Bravo!

Speaking for myself, I don't have an issue with *Prokofy* the person, but I take a solid stand against his college-literati-bullshit and the veiled attacks on groups of residents. I don't appreciate it and I push back. He knows this isn't personal, as he claims his comments aren't personal either.

I think we have an understanding. So long as he produces the usual 'stuff' on here, I'll be pushing back when I see an error/lie/misquote or a mean/harsh/snarky comment.

I think it's beginning to be a love/hate thing. ;) :D
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StoneSelf Karuna
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05-12-2005 14:03
From: Prokofy Neva
There's the proof of the Linden-FIC bear link.

Jarod Godel: What do the Lindens think of the "techie/wiki" community? Or the Feted/Fetid Inner Core?
Robin Linden: I think it's an interesting myth.
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Juro Kothari
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Join date: 4 Sep 2003
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05-12-2005 14:04
From: Prokofy Neva
There's the proof of the Linden-FIC bear link. That's all. Go on spouting whatever you need to spout, this bear with Nicole as creator, now a Devlin bear, was all I needed to make the point.

And now you have one.

Welcome to the FIC. Your handbook and decoder ring are in the mail.
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Dana Unsung
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Join date: 24 Feb 2005
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05-12-2005 14:04
From: StoneSelf Karuna
Jarod Godel: What do the Lindens think of the "techie/wiki" community? Or the Feted/Fetid Inner Core?
Robin Linden: I think it's an interesting myth.


A myth that LL created and find much pleasure in.
StoneSelf Karuna
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05-12-2005 14:04
From: Prokofy Neva
The fact is, Nicole gave her template to others, and even made them some bears..

did you ask nicole for a copy?
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Jamie Bergman
SL's Largest Distributor
Join date: 17 Feb 2005
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05-12-2005 14:05
For the record, I'm a Prok fan.

I think he's brilliant. I don't always agree with him, but he always makes me think.
David Valentino
Nicely Wicked
Join date: 1 Jan 2004
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05-12-2005 14:05
From: April Firefly
Sorry for coming to the party late. I'm at work and this thread exploded.

This is what I am getting from Bob and his supporters. Let Prok do whatever Prok wants, but if we do the same, we are wrong. Does this mean Prok is SL's Sacred Cow?

As someone who is on Prok's list, I chose to withdraw from any forum thread that involved Prok, even when it was something I was interested in. This took a great deal of effort and took away some of the joy of posting on the forum.

From the sidelines though, I have cheered all the ones who have stood up to Prok.

So I say to Bob, how is it right to censor all but one? Wouldn't it be better to apply your theory to all including Prok? And by not including all in your suggestion aren't you making one an elitist and the rest of us umm a lower class of forum posters? And at the same time, isn't that a little condescending to Prok?

Just the thought that came to my head while reading the posts in this thread.


Wow. Great post!! Can we pretend I thought it up and posted it?
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
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05-12-2005 14:05
From: Prokofy Neva
Aimee, do you think I'm stupid or something?

Go back and read my post.

I don't *care* what your bear is/was/became.

LF asked for the template. Where did it come from? Did you make a brand-new bear template that was NOT Nicole's template?

Yes I did. The bears that have been going around in the last two weeks (my bears) do not even remotely look like Nicole's bear. I don't have a copy of Nicole's bear when I made it. I still don't.

From: Prokofy Neva

And if you did, so what? The fact is, Nicole gave her template to others, and even made them some bears.

Devlin Gallant sent me a bear. Here's the picture of it in edit-mode. It says "Devlin Gallant" as the name of the object -- that may not be so visible in the screenshot but Devlin can vouch for this.

As you can clearly see, it says "Creator: Nicole Linden" and it is on "no mod/no transfer"

Yes. That's the Linden Bear. It is not, nor does it look even remotely like my FIC bear which has no connection to Nicole or the Lindens.

From: Prokofy Neva

There's the proof of the Linden-FIC bear link. That's all. Go on spouting whatever you need to spout, this bear with Nicole as creator, now a Devlin bear, was all I needed to make the point.

You believe that showing me a picture of a linden bear as devlin is proof that MY FIC bear is connected to the Lindens?

Even when caught in a bold faced lie, you keep on going and going!
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Juro Kothari
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05-12-2005 14:07
From: Dana Unsung
A myth that LL created and find much pleasure in.

Prokofy started the 'myth'. We took ownership and made it real and really fabulous. :D
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Juro Kothari
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05-12-2005 14:08
From: Jamie Bergman
I think he's brilliant.

Brilliance lags.
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Cienna Samiam
Bah.
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05-12-2005 14:08
From: Aimee Weber
Even when caught in a bold faced lie, you keep on going and going!


Bingo.
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Aimee Weber
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05-12-2005 14:10
Oh and I did read your post. Other people can go read it too. Here is the part where you claim that these FIC bears are Nicole's.

From: Prokofy Neva
From there we began to see a new line of FIC bears -- and I merely commented, as the latest episode in this saga, "why am I not surprised that these bears created by Nicole Linden are being given with mod perms turned on".


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