You're confusing abiogenesis (ie spontaneous generation, which was disproven in the 1600's) with modern day evolutionary theory.
That's not all he's confusing. But I digress...
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Cindy Claveau
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08-03-2006 12:08
You're confusing abiogenesis (ie spontaneous generation, which was disproven in the 1600's) with modern day evolutionary theory. That's not all he's confusing. But I digress... _____________________
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Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:09
Erm. No. Saying "Primordial ooze" does imply a single source. But it wasn't all one puddle. NOONE thinks what you just said. The only life form to ever come into existence by way of abiogenesis would be the one we all are related to, according to current theory. It was a single life, from a single location. |
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:09
Most people reject evolution. When I say evolution I mean the kind that starts with a single celled creature and over time transforms into a fish, then a frog, then a bird or snake etc etc. Aaand most scientists reject that "evolution" too, because that's not evolution, it's your imaginary strawman of evolution. I think most people agree with adaptation. We can see it happening. There is loads of evidence for it. Evolution /is/ adaptation - The change in the frequency of alleles in a genetic population over time. But there is no evidence to support the notion life as we know it arose from lowly single cell creatures. Lying again - there is plenty of evidence, both morphologically and from DNA, as well as chemistry of the cells in the form of nucleic acids and ribonucleic acids, protein synthesis in prokaryotes and in RNA. If life did arise without a creator, it would need to come into existence with the ability to eat, Lying again, remove waste, Lying again, process food, Got something right! grow, Lying again, and reproduce. Two out of five! That would be a much bigger miracle than having a creator make it. Simply because you are incapable of grasping the notion makes it no less possible or probable. You're also skewing from evolution to biogenesis and abiogenesis The next step is how life began from non-living matter when biogenesis (scientific fact) says all life comes from existing life. Aaaaaaaaccording to you, an extraterrestrial made a statue of a man and a statue of a woman from mud and breathed into them. We all know the theory of abiogenesis (the unsupported theory that life came from non-living material) strikes in the face of science, No, lying again. It becomes apparent that you not only don't know what you're talking about, but also that your sole purpose on these forums is to troll this propaganda. Remember what we were discussing - how it is very important to actually know what you're talking about? Abiogenesis is a scientific HYPOTHESIS, not THEORY. So, Lying yet again. It is an hypothesis supported by evidence, by scientific experiment. So, Lying again. It does not "strike in the face of science", lying /yet again/, And There are plenty of us who can see through your lying propaganda. yet people who rejet the notion of a creator must assume this is how life began. Wrong again. Fallacy of the false dichotomy. Their beliefs cause them to close their eyes to science when it shows their beliefs to be wrong. Projecting one's own shortcomings to others ... and thereby lying So in a way, one could say people on both sides of the issue depend on their beliefs to guide them through science. No, you completely ignore science. This has been demonstrated time and time again. You use your beliefs to guide you /away/ from science, to guide you to /lie/ about science, evolution, and what other people believe. Yet more pedantic sophistry from Kevn, who breaks (yet again) a commandment and denies his saviour in public. |
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Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:12
...no, the evidence for evolution is by watching things with short generational timespans (such as fruit flies) evolve over time. You're confusing abiogenesis (ie spontaneous generation, which was disproven in the 1600's) with modern day evolutionary theory. Abiogenesis has been reworked. The current theory concerns the begining of the very first life from which everything evolved, if you believe in such things. |
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Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:14
The only life form to ever come into existence by way of abiogenesis would be the one we all are related to, according to current theory. It was a single life, from a single location. Noone said that. The current theory says a single source. That source could easily be the chemicals spouted from the earth, something of a mineral oozeshake. Containing many, many single-celled organisms that are new species. All it would take for them to develop in different ways is entirely dependant on what they consume in that ooze. In fact, evidence of this can be observed by examining deep-sea vents that spout, literally, primordial slush into the ocean. _____________________
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Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:15
Abiogenesis has been reworked. The current theory concerns the begining of the very first life from which everything evolved, if you believe in such things. We don't. That's bullshit Christian rhetoric. Fundie claptrap. _____________________
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:15
abiogenesis has never ever been observed. True science says all life comes from existing life, we call it biogenisis. I love this - Kevn has suddenly become the arbiter of what is and is not True Science. Much in the way that I am about to become the arbiter of who are sheep and who are goats. The whirlwind, is in the thorn tree. The virgins are all trimming their wicks. The whirlwind, is in the thorn tree. It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks. With measured 'undred weight and penny-pound... |
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Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:15
..... Lying again, Lying again, ...... Lying again........ Hey Ulrika, how's it going? I was wondering where you were hiding.  |
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-03-2006 12:16
Abiogenesis has been reworked. The current theory concerns the begining of the very first life from which everything evolved, if you believe in such things. It's been reworked as a strawman by your ID quacks. _____________________
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Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:16
Refuted because, by definition, that would make the universe an Open System. An open system accepts input from outside that system. That's essentially the definition of it. If another dimension is able to influence our own, regardless of the rules of that dimension, that means our dimension is an open system, as it is accepting input. SL is also an Open System. The ability for players to input data, as well as any influences our RL's have on SL play, including the affects LL projects in the environment as maintenance and development, makes it an Open System. You *still* haven't addressed this. _____________________
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Taco Rubio
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08-03-2006 12:17
The only life form to ever come into existence by way of abiogenesis would be the one we all are related to, according to current theory. It was a single life, from a single location. I have never seen abiogenisis restricted by such a definition, and strongly suspect there was an error* in the way this post was presented. *you made up your own restriction. Thanks! _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-03-2006 12:18
It's been reworked as a strawman by your ID quacks. *waves* hi ulri... err Kendra  _____________________
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Corvus Drake
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08-03-2006 12:18
It's been reworked as a strawman by your ID quacks. Precisely. Abiogenesis is rejected by reasonable science. The *real* abiogenesis. _____________________
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:18
Yes you are typical, Christians aren't monolithic, we all have differing beliefs. Eeeexcept you all have - supposedly - the same core of beliefs, which is the very definition of "Christian". I say "supposedly" because you claim to be Christian and yet you constantly lie and deny your Saviour in public. |
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-03-2006 12:19
*waves* hi ulri... err Kendra oooops. I meant to /post/ this as Finning. _____________________
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:19
Bleah
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-03-2006 12:21
Eeeexcept you all have - supposedly - the same core of beliefs, which is the very definition of "Christian". I say "supposedly" because you claim to be Christian and yet you constantly lie and deny your Saviour in public. I tell you this, before the cock crows three times he will deny me again. _____________________
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-03-2006 12:21
oooops. I meant to /post/ this as Finning. you didn't wave back, you hurt my feelings  thats it no more Christmas cards for you _____________________
If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party!
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Kendra Bancroft
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08-03-2006 12:22
you didn't wave back, you hurt my feelings thats it no more Christmas cards for you That was my wave back  I'm just too subtle for ya, Elvis. _____________________
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April Firefly
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08-03-2006 12:23
The part that throws me is the dinosaurs. Why doesn't the Bible mention them? Did God not know about them? If not, then where do the bones come from?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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08-03-2006 12:23
That was my wave back I'm just too subtle for ya, Elvis. thank ya thank ya very much! _____________________
If life gives you lemons, you should make lemonade and try and find someone who's life has given them vodka and have a party!
I asked God directly, and he says you're a douchebag. Commander of the Militant Wing of the Salvation Army http://e-pec.info/forum/blog/billybob_goodliffe |
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Chronic Skronski
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08-03-2006 12:24
Here is a game where you can spank a monkey!
http://www.addictinggames.com/monkey.html Everyone post your scores. I can get in the 800's! _____________________
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Finning Widget
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08-03-2006 12:25
Hey Ulrika, how's it going? I was wondering where you were hiding. So, you can't actually refute anything I said, so you just outright accuse me of being Ulrika. Damnit can you not follow the lines? I'm Kendra's alt. |
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Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:29
We don't. That's bullshit Christian rhetoric. Fundie claptrap. "A theory of universal common descent based on evolutionary principles was proposed by Charles Darwin in his book The Origin of Species (1859), and later in The Descent of Man (1871). This theory is now generally accepted by biologists, and the last universal common ancestor (LUCA or LUA), that is, the most recent common ancestor of all currently living organisms, is believed to have appeared about 3.5 billion years ago " |
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Kevn Klein
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08-03-2006 12:29
So, you can't actually refute anything I said, so you just outright accuse me of being Ulrika. Damnit can you not follow the lines? I'm Kendra's alt. No, you are NOT! I'm positive. |
