Religeous Two Week Fire Gap

Do you mean the kind of idiots who are so conceited that they convince themselves that they are rational in order to justify their thinly veiled superiority complexes or do you mean the idiots who have biological conditions preventing them from being rational?

It's just a lack of manners in my opinion.

I mean the idiots who have biological conditions preventing them from being rational. In regards to the idiots who are so conceited that they convince themselves that they are rational in order to justify their thinly veiled superiority complexes, I would say the label of idiot is inaccurate.

~Ulrika~

Wow, I didn't expect that. I thought the idiot we are both thinking of is just locked in a deep process of denial, but now I must consider your assertion that said idiot is actually biologically impaired. Do you have some corroborating evidence or at least a basis for that inference? I'm 100% willing to accept your view that said idiot is a biological idiot if you can provide a decent argument.

"DEVOICED"?

Wow, damn.


I guess they're lucky you didn't send them to the cornfield, huh?


You're right: It's a good day. It's a very good day!

I do. I am the biologically impaired idiot.

~Ulrika~

Another unexpected turn. My skills as a mindreader have been proven a hoax.

Pretty amazing for a thread that is spelled incorrectly, huh?

You're bluffing. This is all a ruse, isn't it, a long-planned nefarious scheme hatched by you and that Nburg frau?

I'm on to you, Chance Abattoir, you renegade esper, you.


You'll never take me alive!









" Eight, sir; seven, sir; six, sir; five, sir; four, sir; three, sir; two, sir; one! 'Tenser,' said the tensor; 'tenser,' said the tensor; tension, apprehension, and dissension have begun! "

I think that's exactly what Chip is saying. Go there and calmly and rationally, using scripture to justify your position, tell them that they've got things wrong and Mary was just Jesus' mother. People hold strong convictions and can be very passionate about religion, and I don't think that having ideas you hold sacred and are passionate about is a bad thing, I think the ways people go about defending their beliefs can be. Every so often someone like Prok or Ulrika will come along and stir up the status quo or place a few controversial ideas, and too many people get bent out of shape or take things personally IMO. Love her or hate her, Ulrika made a good point that people can be furious that someone suggest a SUV is keyed or a bible is destroyed, but we have much bigger and more important fish out there that are being fried daily.

And Coco, I really appreciated your honesty and openness with your post. I have told very few people whom I've worked with and have been friends with that I'm gay, simply because I've had many people say it's something they have no problem with only to later prove through their own subtle, and probably mostly unconscious deeds and actions, that they now did in fact have an entirely different opinion of me. It doesn't define me; it's a very simple attribute that I usually try to avoid mentioning to avoid that sort of silent, unspoken attitude. I often think I should be more open and say screw what people think. I spent at least half of the life I've lived up to this point at age 25 begging God to "fix me" or help me "change myself", and I ultimately left the Christian religion because of this and the hypocritical attitudes I saw in the churches where I grew up. Anyways, to make a long story short and keep from getting too meladramatic, it warms my heart to hear Christian people who have given this issue some genuine, serious thought.

I daresay you'll have more to be warmed by, then, the further you look, Logan.
Not all Christians are stupid, and not all stupid people are Christians. (It may be true that the overlapping demographic between those groups is especially virulent, yes; but then, that's true for most populations ...)

But does it really take that much deep and serious thought, I wonder? People fuck people all the time --- it's a biological imperative and it sure is fun --- what difference does it make what sex they and their partners are? Why is that even a consideration for judgment in the first place? Why is such a judgment given any more weight than the Biblical injunction against eating shellfish?

I mean, yes, yes, I know there are Far-Reaching, Culturally Relevant, Historical Reasons, sure. But haven't they always been based, ultimately, on ignorance and fear? (Maybe there is a reason it's called "homophobia," after all?) And don't we know better by now? I mean, hell, I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack, myself; and yet I can see that an idea is dumb, regardless of who's been saying otherwise for however long ...

*sigh*

Speaking of shellfish ...


Escargot, anyone? I know this gay couple who do them up real nice with just a touch of garlic butter. Mmmmm ... and then, Chicken Kiev for the main course, the meat all warm and juicy, lightly dusted with sea salt ... followed by a blackberry cobbler with a big scoop of homemade vanilla-bean ice cream dripping slowly down the sides ...

Some men prefer snails, some men prefer oysters.

a bible is just a book, paper, I've wiped my ass with a bible, smoked joints with it's pages etc, who cares, it is not sacred, it's a book, religious fascists burn rock albums (and people).

Religion is killing people, or rather the nutcases that buy all that swill are, religion is causing child molestation to go unpunished. Burning a bible is a good way to vent when you really want to burn the big fancy gold encrusted temples because of the harm they have done to humanity.

Your bible is a meaningless book, I won't burn your copy, I respect your rights, but I'll destroy mine!

Unacceptable? not punishing a conspiracy to hide child molestors is unacceptable. Starting wars because you think God wants you to is unacceptable.

Why are the christian leaders in the USA so pompous greedy and full of hatred towards humanity? because they are lying, they are just using your religion because it gives them power and wars and molested kids are the result. For Christ's sake wake up and smell the coffee, we can no longer afford to give religions any slack, they are causing harm to real life people.

Please don't blame religion for all that. It was your family(humans). The religions generally teach good things, and 99.9999% of religious people are harmless.

Put away the ropes and torches

No need for that wink, Juro. At least not in Austin. "Except that it's in Texas" is what a lot of we townies say, too!



Euterpe and I will treat you to dinner!


(Um ... right, Eu?

Eu?

Honey ... why are you cutting up my credit cards like that?)

Memory,

The problem is you don't know who it is you are talking about. How can you judge people on their religion(beliefs)? Without meeting them, hearing their concerns and needs. I'll bet you would find most to be very pleasant. People who would want to help you in your plight in life.

Here in Florida, I can tell you who came to the aid of the victims first, it was the churches and religions with food and money. If they waited for the goverment in New Orleans more people would have died. Again, the churches stepped up. I believe some atheists from down the street came to assist too in our little area. So I'm not suggesting atheists don't help.

Excellent!

~Ulrika~