Noahs Ark found??

Know what I did, Billy? I went to Google and typed in "Great Lakes Water Volume".

In roughly 1.5 seconds, I found out that the Great Lakes contain roughly 22,600 cubic km (give or take) of water.

The total volume of fresh water, worldwide, is a little over 100,000 cubic km. So the Great Lakes are barely over 1/4 of the entire world's FRESH water volume.

Then I went back to Google and typed in "water volume earth". I found out that the earth's surface has 1.37 BILLION cubic km of water.

It took roughly 2 minutes to do all of that and type into this post.

Remember, what people would have considered "Global" when those stories were written, let alone forst told was a pretty small area. Floods in the Middle-East and Baltic regions were common,, and most religions have such a myth. Perhaps there's something in it, but please, don't read it literally, it was a story designed to teach, not literal truth.

did you reread my post? I since edited it and changed the wording to reveal what I really wanted to say, I'm sorry the first one came across wrong, I realized it and changed it.

Siobhan, thank you. There have been flood myths in virtually every human civilization in history -- probably because we tend to cluster near water sources. Water provides drinking, transportation and food (fish, etc). It does not follow that all flood myths relate to the same event, of course.

In the late '90s, William B.F. Ryan and Walter C. Pitman published their book "Noah's Flood: The New Scientific Discoveries About the Event That Changed History" (Simon & Schuster). They had done some very thorough research around the Black Sea and discovered that there had once been major cities along the coast of the Black Sea about 7,500 years ago which are now buried under that body of water.

Earth Institute at Columbia

Given the timing and location, their theory was that this was the source of the ancient Sumerian legend as well as the derivative myth we find in Genesis.

I highly recommend Ryan & Pittman's book if anyone is interested in their study.

I just worked it out. Excluding mountain ranges, the water would cover the earth in 4.3 cm (2 in) of water.

~Ulrika~

This is a very PC way to say that the Bible is bullshit.

~Ulrika~

I stand recorrected, now if I could just remember who told me that....

2 of? nope. 7 of every 'clean' (religiously clean/ kosher) animal

Thank you. The thing that I find the most ironic is that so many people still see these things so literal, and don't see the symbolic interpretations. I mean, for Christians, God himself comes down and tell something like 40 recorded parables and stories, examples to illustrate a point, right?

I wish I could find a link to something deep from Joseph Campbell that I read years ago... But instead I found this :

Quote from : here
Both the ritual of baptism and the many Flood myths may be seen as the first stage of the individuation process. Water is a common symbol of the unconscious. In baptism a person is plunged into water and is said to be 'born again' when he or she rises out of the water. This symbolizes the descent of consciousness into the unconscious and the resulting new and fuller life.

The same aplies to stories of a great flood which destroys the face of the earth and the recedes, leaving one pure human being (e.g Noah in the Jewish - Christian tradition; Markandeya in the Hindu tradition). If we take this as a symbol of individuation, what is destroyed by the flood-waters (the unconscious) is the persona, that makeshift self-image with which we start our adult life. This partial self must be desolved to make way for the appearance of the whole self {represented by Noah or Markandeya}.

People are odd... what can I say?

"Today, 20 percent of the world’s freshwater supply is contained in the five great lakes: 5,473 cubic miles (22,812 km³), or 6 quadrillion gallons in all. It is enough water to cover the lower 48 states to a uniform depth of 9.5 feet (2.9 m)."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Lakes

True enlightenment comes from seeking knowledge instead of having faith in old stories and misremembered facts.

Ah, the unbiased source... let me read from this... what's that?.....


"...Creationists argue against the local flood model because it doesn't fit their own literalist preconceptions......"

The bias is so obvious, I would think they would try to be more discreet.

Not to mention, inbreeding, genetic diversity, food supply, transportation and captivity stress or diseases.

Must have taken some time to get the platypus moved up from down under. Did Noah bring them back afterwards?

Der ain't got none; fancy that. Has the the Lord's contribution to the forums failed us? My faith is shattered.

Have you ever been to a frelling zoo? Do you know what happens when you get a bunch of animals, like hundreds (let alone the THOUSANDS the ark had to hold) together and transport them? Deaths occur.

But like you said, maybe they were all very young and weened off their mothers? How did these animals learn how to do their thing if they were in captivation while they were young and then when released had no adults to show them how to hunt or where to swim, etc?

Have you been listening to or watching Dr. Kent Hovind? We have ALOT his of videos (downloaded from the newsgroups i think)...Let me tell you, they are pure comedy relief. Stop taking them seriously.

Briana Dawson

Have you seen the stingers on the male platypus?? Its horrific. It's venom focuses on the pain receptors in those it stings. Supposedly the most painful sting a person can experience.

Who would thunk a platypus could do that?

I wonder if Noah got stung...

Briana Dawson

Normally, I just pass on these religious wrestling match threads, but this time I have to ask...

What did the carnivores on Noah's Ark eat?

Why fish of course

And sometimes, those bears stole all the pic-a-nic baskets.

I thought bears ate Buddhists

I kinda figured they ate unicorns, griffins, centaurs and fire breathing dragons...

Not Yogi Bear!