for the record, while I think she's persistently breaking the ToS and the terms of her ban, I don't think Ulrika is guilty of murder.
did you understand the analogy?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-18-2006 06:24
for the record, while I think she's persistently breaking the ToS and the terms of her ban, I don't think Ulrika is guilty of murder. did you understand the analogy? |
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
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07-18-2006 06:29
Who said she didn't do anything wrong? "Ulrika did not do anything wrong" ~Henry Fielding, Tom Thumb the Great, Act I, sc. iii (1730) _____________________
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Margaret Mfume
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07-18-2006 06:40
That sure would be a shame... ![]() Rolls eyes, indeed. It is a shame that people get banned for posting here. Not that I'm a fan of Ulrika. There's a lot of folks whose posts I wouldn't miss at all. I can even find some humor in this situation since Ulrika has been puttiing herself forward as a forum moderator long before the resmod program even existed; but that is not what guides my opinions on this issue. I separate my opinions on structure from my feelings about individuals and Selador summed up the execution of policy here quite well. Better tell teacher then. ![]() It's not about the issues or making the forums a better place; it's about individuals ensuring that the rules are enforced against those they don't cotton to. Overiding the reasonable analysis of the implications of an action due to an indifference to or maybe, even worse, an enjoyment of negative repercussions falling upon someone we aren't particularly fond of is pretty common. But that is what differentiates someone as a person of principle. Those individuals keep their eye on the ball and stay true to their opinions even when they couldn't care less about the personalities involved. For all the people I've wanted to hush up on certain issues and as much as I've disliked the gang banging that I've seen, I wouldn't want anyone to be banned. Being excused for a spell to cool off is enough; but banning? Nope. Tying forums missteps to access to SL was just the worst decision, not to mention a response to forum emotions run amuck, that I can imagine. At the time, critics were told to wait and see what happens. I've waited. What I see isn't good and the better forum which was promised to be the result still seems to be a silly pipedream to me. It can happen to anyone. Even people you like. Just ask Panda or Sensual. LL beg to differ. LL lost a lot of ground regarding alts with recent enrollment changes. They chose numbers over identity verification and thus it would seem that enforcement of these policies would be weak and uneven (what else is new, eh?). In fact, this would likely only effect people who come forward to identify themselves or are pointed out by others as you did in this thread for doing what sooooo many have been doing all along. _____________________
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Ulviye Zobel
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07-18-2006 07:39
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Joy Honey
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07-18-2006 08:28
"Ulrika did not do anything wrong" ~Henry Fielding, Tom Thumb the Great, Act I, sc. iii (1730) I stand corrected. Thank you panda. All that and brains too, how do you do it? _____________________
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Xander Au
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07-18-2006 09:21
Careful there, Uma. Loving Ulrika is considered terrorism in some parts. Terrorism for loving Ulrika? Well then Call me an Al-kida (or however you spell that word)! I lubs Ulrika ![]() _____________________
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Vivianne Draper
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07-18-2006 09:49
ok take two fictional people: tom and john. tom and john are old old friends. tom posts that john is a looser. john reponds that tom is a member of a certain man boy organization.
THATS WHAT IT WAS. It was a JOKE. It is and was really that simple. I didn't know it was a joke. However even if it was a joke, that doesn't excuse breaking a rule. "sorry officer I was only joking when I killed him" its still murder even though the offender was joking. |
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Billybob Goodliffe
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07-18-2006 09:51
ok take two fictional people: tom and john. tom and john are old old friends. tom posts that john is a looser. john reponds that tom is a member of a certain man boy organization. THATS WHAT IT WAS. It was a JOKE. It is and was really that simple. However for those of us who don't know every persons friends on the forums it makes discerning that hard now doesn't it? |
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Sensual Casanova
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07-18-2006 09:53
Um. I'll just use an alt. ![]() ~Ulrika~ How are you posting if banned? *confused* That really sux, I dont think they should tie the forums and in world together ![]() _____________________
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MadamG Zagato
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07-18-2006 10:02
How are you posting if banned? *confused* That really sux, I dont think they should tie the forums and in world together ![]() Ya, How ARE you posting if you were banned? I second that question. _____________________
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Uma Bauhaus
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07-18-2006 10:12
Ya, How ARE you posting if you were banned? I second that question. |
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Freyr Elvehjem
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07-18-2006 10:24
However for those of us who don't know every persons friends on the forums it makes discerning that hard now doesn't it? What I find funny is that some folks project their feelings onto someone and expect that person to conform to the projections. Were you the target of the posts in question, you would have the right to be offended or not to be offended. However, that doesn't mean the real target of the posts had to be offended no matter how much others demanded that they should be. IMO, if there is a post "attacking" an individual, that individual should be the one initiating an AR. |
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-18-2006 10:34
ok take two fictional people: tom and john. tom and john are old old friends. tom posts that john is a looser. john reponds that tom is a member of a certain man boy organization. THATS WHAT IT WAS. It was a JOKE. It is and was really that simple. And the resmod was in on it? Yeah didn't think so. |
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Sally Rosebud
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07-18-2006 10:37
And the resmod was in on it? Yeah didn't think so. Were you? Did the resmod ask any questions? Were there any AR's on the thread in question? _____________________
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Uma Bauhaus
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07-18-2006 10:42
Did the resmod ask any questions? Were there any AR's on the thread in question? |
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Joy Honey
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07-18-2006 10:44
And the resmod was in on it? Yeah didn't think so. Don't you have a personal vendetta against the resmod program? Oh, it doesn't suit your needs now... ![]() _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-18-2006 10:50
Don't you have a personal vendetta against the resmod program? Oh, it doesn't suit your needs now... ![]() resmod or not she called someone not 'in' on the joke a child molestor that trumps me being anti resmod my beef is with the program.. as players they still have rights and deserve to have anyone using such a VILE term in reference to them punished..hell for what she did, it should be permaban |
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-18-2006 10:51
Were you? Did the resmod ask any questions? Were there any AR's on the thread in question? the resmod reported it to a linden the linden banned ulrika |
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-18-2006 10:53
It's OK. I think the people who know what happened know what happened and that's sufficient. People who are trolling to exercise a need to personally attack people can not be quelled by reason. Ulrika wasn't banned without good reason. I know what happened, and the trolls won't be reasoned with. |
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Margaret Mfume
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07-18-2006 10:54
And the resmod was in on it? Yeah didn't think so. I really think that your opinion of Ulrika is getting in the way of comprehending the sequence of events. You, too, Billybob. _____________________
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Ulviye Zobel
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07-18-2006 10:56
I hear that Ulrika ate a baby!
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Jonas Pierterson
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07-18-2006 10:57
I really think that your opinion of Ulrika is getting in the way of comprehending the sequence of events. You, too, Billybob. Good thing you're wrong. She called a fellow player a child molestor. A linden banned her for it. Simple. |
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Ulviye Zobel
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07-18-2006 10:58
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Joy Honey
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Does this qualify as trolling?
07-18-2006 10:58
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Sally Rosebud
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07-18-2006 11:01
trolls won't be reasoned with. Yep, that's why I've stopped talking to you in this thread. Bye bye! _____________________
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