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Just curious, Didn't Nagin approve that site a few months ago? What made him change his mind?

Here's another little tidbit for you. Because my house was still in trust during both Katrina and Rita I don't qualify for any assistance. I still can't live in my home. The best I can do is, once the house is offically in my name, try to get an equity loan and hope I can sell the house after making enough repairs to make it livable. After surviving 15 hurricanes in 46 years, I've had enough.

You don't have to agree. You're simply uniformed ... and that was what ticked me off... the apparent arrogance of ignorance (no, that was not intended as an insult, but a serious, honest reaction to the thread title+).

That you still view the locals as "typical self centered jerks" simply reinforces that since the initial post, you apparently STILL haven't looked up anything but the initial news report on this -- and there have been other stories relating to the initial report you linked to.

For instance, you aren't aware that just across the street from the place the trailer park was being "put in/erected" was a larger, flatter area which was available and those from Lakewood said they'd have no problem with the trailer park being located there, are you? Just across the street... less crowding. No? You didn't? Oh. Did you know that was pointed out to FEMA? No? You didn't? Oh. You didn't know that an attempt at accomodation WAS tried multiple times? No? I didn't think you/99% of those who are not local did. That doesn't seem to have made the national wires for some reason.

And you do realize that Nagin's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't no matter what he does, whether it's a proposal or an action? You realize that, right?

And thus the label "the arrogance of ignorance"....

I notice that you/no one has apparently asked a Linden to change the thread title - not that I asked or even actually expected that you/anyone do so. Such non-action shows the insensitivity illustrated daily by those not here, "fighting the valiant fight" even without leaving home daily, but especially then. That type of action might have been an indication of you honestly being empathic now. But, that hasn't happened and saying you understand a bit more now sounds empty.

One thing to remember, non-locals get 5, 10, maybe 15 minutes a day of "recovery news" on South Texas, South Louisiana, South and Central Mississippi, South Alabama and Northwest Florida - if that. We get innundated with it from the moment we get up and drive through a non-operational stop light (on major thoroughfares) in the morning right through end of day radio/television "sign off" (they don't actually sign off any more but I have no idea what else to call these) messages that some local stations still make. In between, we are faced with still abandoned, rotting and stinking cars, blue tarp roofs that now flap in the wind and offer no protection after having fought the elements for over seven months now, and all sorts of other garbage... a continuing lack of medical care, child care, schools, even WalMart is no longer open the hours it used to be before they were 24/7. When was the last time you visited a friend or relative and every house on the street had abandoned refrigerators, stoves, freezers, etc. lined up between the sidewalk and the street..... ever? We still have that for miles and miles of streeets seven months later, going on eight. Simple things those not here take for granted.

One CANNOT get a sense of the visual effect on our psyche's from the news coverage... it's simply impossible. Look on a map of New Orleans. Find City Park. Now, consider that the entire North-South length of the park had a pile of rubble there that was 30 feet high (added word) and twice that deep for months. But we saw trash haulers hauling trash every day --- the pile simply never seemed to decrease... and there's still entire areas barely touched as major demolitions have yet to begin in numerous areas.

There's a feeling here not merely of national abandonment but almost of increasing resistance to assistance by other Americans who haven't been here. Not all.. many have come and helped, or sent help. That's never been ignored and has always been appreciated more than can be expressed ---- even simple things as "lost" shipments that only recently showed up and are no longer as needed as they once were. Still, when 95% of one's family is now unemployed (before Katrina everyone had $40k+ jobs), uninsured, under-insured and/or now uninsurable, well, you might begin to get a clue of the stress and impact just on one family I know. Luckily, that one's not mine. We have 50% employment, though one dropped from a stock broker position to a fast food assistant manager position.

So, yes, I (and many like me) ARE sensitized to criticisms from non-locals and you may not have been aware of just how much or on something as seemingly "simple and innocuous" as this. My emotions remain raw. I don't apologize for them.

Don't believe what you see on the news. It's that simple. You want to know what's going on.. come see for yourself. We could use the taxes you spend on the fast food you eat while here.

Just please don't post from ignorance about what's going on here again.

You choose to focus on that expression of frustration and then want to play rhetorical games? Cool.

But you should get your facts straight first. The poster said she/he (I don't really know... no insult intended) doesn't live in the area. Locals have a say in local politics... not people who don't live there. That's a basic premise of American law. Deal with it.

It's not just local politics....federal dollars are being spent

It's a local issue. Sorry. Get over it. Next player.

Well, considering I never mentioned the law, I don't know how you could divine that I don't understand it. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I'm immigrant.

If it involves federal money or federal programs/facilities/personnel, it's not just a local issue.

I am pretty certain that in the US, law trumps "feelings". You don't have to specifically use the word "law". You have to consider it in your argument or be called for not doin so. That's what I did.

When you say "if it involves federal money" you actually ARE invoking law. Money is "legal tender". Legal == law. Federal facilities did not exist in this case. Federal personnel did -- oh wait. They are paid! That's a legal issue. They are acting, or trying to, as a result of a legally established part of the Federal government. Gee.. seems like law/legal issues to be considered to me.

In this case, your silence, that is not mentioning the law, signified ignorance

I'm here and I know I don't know it all, nver claimed to. But I am obviously more involved and more knowledgeable on this issue, AT THIS MOMENT than you apparently are.

...words...

Sorry. You've illustrated the futility of trying to enlighten those who will not see.

First, you mention non-locals' right to "comment" due to it being a Federal issue. You base that on "money being spent". Then you say that you didn't bring up law. Money is a legal concept. DOH.

Apparently a desire to defend the position you've taken seems to be preventing you from actually accurately evaluating what I said. It certainly hasn't been shown that you understand my argument or statements at all.

Hold onto your uninformed opinion and arguments as long as it makes you feel superior.

Until then, locals here decide our business. Not those like you. Talk to the hand.

Sorry. You've illustrated the futility of trying to enlighten those who will not see.

First, you mention non-locals' right to "comment" due to it being a Federal issue. You base that on "money being spent". Then you say that you didn't bring up law. Money is a legal concept. DOH.

Apparently a desire to defend the position you've taken seems to be preventing you from actually accurately evaluating what I said. It certainly hasn't been shown that you understand my argument or statements at all.

Hold onto your uninformed opinion and arguments as long as it makes you feel superior. When you decide to get a clue , actually open yourself to new information and want to try to reason logically, maybe we can talk again.

Until then, locals here decide our business. Not those like you. Talk to the hand.

My brother lives in N.O. I think you all would get along well. He doesn't suffer fools gladly.

As for the words, I won't say argument, that Toni continues to waste, it's pretty simple.

To claim that politics can be argued or dicussed without reference to or implicit consideration of existing and established law when speaking of America, I'm pretty stunned. But she certainly keeps on trying.

This isn't a funding issue, Toni...

In this case, your speech IS interference.

I can handle this a different way if you prefer.
It's about free speech? Fine. Waste your breath. Just don't expect anyone down here to value your speech...or that of any non-local who IS as uninformed as you have demonstrated yourself to be. You simply don't understand what you are talking about in terms of local affairs, in terms of law, in terms of the political system. I didn't prove that point. Your words did.

You're right... Nice trolling.

Come to Mardi Gras next year. Spend money. Have a nice day.

Any worthwhile discussion that might have occured in this thread was killed the minute you started babbling...

I love New Orleans; I actually care about the city

This thread was about a local issue.

Not living here means that while you may speak all you choose... we have the right to ignore, dispute and despise non-locals for speech seen as meddling interference.