Disgusting Gated Community Yuppie Scum

Alright now let me see if I understand this correctly. You are saying that I cannot form an opinion based on this news article because I don't live or know anyone in New Orleans?

Your also stating that I shouldn't be able to voice my opinion on this forum. Well thats funny, do you own Linden Labs? Are you a forum moderator? Do you tell me what to think what to read, heck make descions for me?

Yeah I didn't think so.

My opinion was based on news article. Basically yes I can see why they wouldn't like having this trailer park in their backyards as such. Though you'd think they could be a little more understanding. The Mayors actions I find,... well I cannot find words. Basically he gave permission or at least the permits and everything were issued and approved then they were yanked back because a few people decided they didn't want it.

That just TO ME, (see just so you can tell this is MY opinion) is deplorable.

But Picabo, I thought you lived in Colorado??

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Or was it Washington DC?

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Or don't your rules apply to you?

Sure. Form an opinion. Express it freely. But be at least relatively considerate in situations where emotions remain raw edged, where day after day your friends, relatives, area, politicians, systems, etc. get criticized by the ignorant and uninformed, the obtuse and those who merely troll and stir shit. You want to critique, do so from a perspective of being knowledgeable. You want to voice an uniformed, negative opinion... great. Be prepared for a response when you strike the wrong nerve.

Considering that bodies were just recovered yesterday, that a couple hundred recovered bodies remain unidentified, that some of those missing will never be recovered, that many still can't bear to return to see the devastation and some may never recover financially, much less emotionally, you still want to "defend" the orignal post by trying to make me defend my response?

I think it's more likely that you just want to troll just as the OP did. I could be wrong, but I dont think so.

Korg - I didn't know you were from NO.

*She* (if you actually knew the history of my posts you'd know that) - and Toni's correct, while I don't live in the area, I have both friends (who once did before Katrina and hope to return) and relatives who are there now. (They don't think too much of Nagin either btw - but I'm speaking for myself not them when I post).

Locals have a vote, everybody has a say.

Wow. talk about taking things out of context.

I live in the Greater New Orleans area. My family has for over 130 years.

My comments on the two stories/theads you linked to are obviously intended as trolls.. but I'll say this. In the first case, my comments are not about the local situation. Read the thread. They relate to a national/societal issue.

In the second, again, Washington, DC local politics is not the issue I commented on. The Congresswoman is a national political figure acting in a national political venue. She represents "law and order" as a member of the Federal legislature. If you can't see the difference, sorry, I just can't explain it to you.

I would feel perfectly fine to make this a local issue just as soon as the neighborhood agrees to pay back the 1.6 million to FEMA.

Trolling is when you start a thread simply to get emotional feedback. My post was to show your hypocrisy. You feel free to comment on other people's lives, but want the rest of us not to say anything about New Orleans. The Federal Government's response to Hurricane Katrina is a national issue. So, sorry, but even under your rules people can still comment on it.

But still, your assertion that only locals can comment about local issues is absurd. Everybody gets to. That's why nobody told you that you couldn't comment about the actions of a school principal in a school district in Colorado. Calling that a "national" issue is an absurd exaggeration. And in the other example, is the lady in question your Congresswoman? Nope. Do you live in Washington DC? Nope. Do her actions affect you at all? Nope. But, see, nobody told you that you couldn't comment on them. So either apply your rules to yourself, or quit trying to apply them to the rest of us.

Sorry, not Korg. He no longer visits the forums AFAIK. I was his S.O, but he hasn't been here since he got ticked off in the forums and left them a year or so ago. He has been back in world, however. We are also no longer together. But none of that really has any relation to what happens here.

You and your posts are not significant enough for me to pay attention to your gender/sex. OTOH, your posts standout for their consistently abrasive nature (to me at least).

So, you again state that your information is secondhand at best. You also reiterate that you have no personal vested interest in NO politics. What's the point of pissing on the forums with the news story and title in the manner that you did? I cannot conceive of any possible positive outcome that you might have expected. If you can, go for it. Tell me what it was.

Locals have the right to be free from interference by entities without vested interests. Other than Federal dollars being spent here, what most of the people living here that I speak with seem to express is a feeling of frustration and resentment that those of who are not here helping out, not enduring it, simply have no clue, cause more trouble for us than we should have to deal with and generally detract from what we do/have/are trying to accomplish. That's where the frustration of my response comes from. Just stay out of our business unless and until you are here working as part of the solution (though we might disagree on the method or even the desired results). Until you ARE HERE, no, your voice doesn't count to us - that's the sense I get. I know it's also my personal feelings. YMMV

Cool. We will just as soon as you pay back any and all benefit you and the rest of the nation have had due to the existence of the Port of New Orleans.

Obviously you and I define trolling differently and I am pretty sure most people recognize trolling regardless of the wording of the definition. Your apparently deliberate attempts to provoke are, well, trolling.

Pointing out "my hypocrisy"? Lol. Funny. You can't stretch your mind far enough to get my point, I didn't say you had to agree with it, and I am being a hypocrit? hakes head sadly

I really feel sorry that you don't see the difference and distinctions between what you are doing and what I am arguing. It's sad. Really it is.

Do you live on the block? Have you been made homeless? No? Well then shut up and stay out of their business. Bloody outsiders poking their noses in.

Oh so let me see, I voice my opinion of your comments and now I'm trolling? I state that I think you have no say in what I may or may not post is,... well wrong.

So now I'm trolling because I have an opinion? If this is the case then aren't you doing the same thing?

But you see, it wasn't an attempt to provoke you. It was to show the rest of the readers in this thread that you apply different rules to your behavior than you apply to theirs. And by most definitions that's hypocrisy. Arguing the facts of the situation is one thing. But what you did was tell them they can't engage in the discussion because they don't live in the "greater New Orleans area" whatever you define that to be. Apparently you don't even live in the neighborhood in question. But you still get to talk about it and the rest of us don't? LOL. Do you even live in the city of New Orleans? If not, how can you comment on Mayor Nagin? Shouldn't that be left up to the locals? LOL

I am a registered voter in New Orleans, TYVM. I've already stated I lived within blocks of the Lakewood community. It's very much "my back yard". I pay local taxes to have a say in this matter. Non-locals' Federal tax contributions give some say in how that money is spent. In this case, a LOCAL official said that Federal action in a local "dispute" was not warranted or wanted and broke no law in doing so. So non-local voice is neither appreciated nor warranted. Remember, there is no Constitutional right to a FEMA trailer, nor is there a right to where such things get placed. You want to make it "all about me".. waste your typing. You want to have a say in local matters that pertain to me? Pay local taxes in the area I pay them in.

I pay Federal taxes which gives me the right to comment on Federal matters -- such as the actions of a Congresswoman alleging that another Federal employee touched her inappropriately.

I also pay Federal taxes that entitle students to a certain Constitutionally-guaranteed level of freedom of speech throughout the nation. I think that gives me the right to postulate on a media matter as media law has been decided at a national level. You don't like my opinion on the principal's action.. fine. I didn't commment on the local aspect of the principal, school system, etc. I specified when I was speaking "personally" as opposed to on a broader societal level. So, it really doesn't matter since whether you agree with my opinion on her action or not was never important to me. I commented about media influence -- something that repeatedly gets raised in these forums.

When someone calls my friends, relatives and neighbors scum, that is derogatory. When someone call thems disgusting, that is derogatory. Subsequent posts don't ameliorate the initial insult.

Someone dislikes my position that he/she has no right to "speak" on a local matter... Think "water off a duck's back" for all the importance that that person is upset about THAT means to me.

Ah, so it is an issue of national interest after all?

And I'll pay this back just as soon as the Lords in London pay me a fair market value for kicking my ancestors off their land in Scotland.

No.. I indicated I'd conditionally take you up on your offer. Since you can't hold up your end, you don't have the right to participate in a local political matter as you aren't part of the local community. What part of that don't you understand?

The "haven't the right" part.

Meddling in local politics from afar is a time-honored American tradition.

See that line on the ground? Yep.. the one you jus stepped over.. that one. Yep.. look at it closely... or not so closely if your eyesight is good. See what's written within the line? Yeah.. it says "troll" in little mirrored particles. Aren't you pretty?

More directly, it's just bullshit. Anyone has the right to have an opinion on anything. Also, I can certainly think of one currently running thread where Mr or Ms Hedges has expressed opinions on affairs not in New Orleans in the slightest.

Is that an eyepatch I see on your forum avatar? Does that indicate a desire to publicize limited vision capability in the real world? I hope not. I'd have to feel sorry for you and I don't want to.

Look, I'm lolling.

Do you think it's hypocritical at all for you to tell everyone not living within an X mile radius of the event in question to shut up, when you're quite happy to express your opinions about events elsewhere, and thus presumably consider those opinions worthwhile?

Or is it that you don't consider your own opinions worthwhile either?

Well, apparently the "greater New Orleans area" includes Colorado and Washington DC. Oh, wait, those were national issues, but the Federal Government's disaster relief response isn't. But, wait, now she says it is. My head is spinning. Let's see if I understand this

We don't get to comment on events in New Orleans.
Because we don't live there.

Picabo gets to comment on disaster relief in New Orleans.
Because she lives there.

Picabo gets to comment on events in Colorado and Washington DC.
Even though she doesn't live there.
Because they're national issues.

Picabo gets to comment on disaster relief in New Orleans.
Because it's a national issue.

We still don't get to comment on disaster relief in New Orleans.
Because we don't live there.
Even if it's a national issue.

Wouldn't it be simpler to shuck all those rationalizations and say, "People get to comment on what they want"?

But it's much more fun to go fishing for bass in a motorboat.

The value that I place on my opinions is quite different from the value that I place on other people's value of my opinion. Obviously, like most human beings, most of the time, my valuation of my opinion is more than that which I place on other people's opinions of my views.

If your value of your own opinion is based on what others think of that opinion, well, gee.. some of you guys are trying really hard for me to feel happy today as sorrow turns past sympathy to pity.

Oh, Picabo, don't pity me because you're a hypocrite. Pity me because I'm beautiful.