al-Zarqawi's family in Jordan wants his body

I'd go for that. Of course I can't vote, not being a US citizen, but I'm sure I can hack a voting machine for you, which would be much more effective anyway.

The "cycle of violence" will continue regardless, until people in the Middle East decide to stop teaching their kids that the best thing to aspire to is a life ending in murder/suicide.

There are many forms of justice, including poetic and schadenfreude.

You astound me. Congratulations. You have made me physically ill. As someone who has been victimised, you both frighten and disgust me. You are as short-sighted and ignorant as the people you revile.

Think you're superior? You share their "logic".

I won't be speaking to you anymore, for the same reason I don't discuss things with Kevn Klein - I don't know if it's more frightening that you'd troll with this kind of puerile, childish, bullying shit, or if you actually believe it - either way, you're not worth the time it takes for me to wrestle nausea at someone on either side of this who thinks that the punishment of the innocent is somehow okay because they're different.

Thank you, Kat, for showing me where the ignore feature is. I'm finished.

Your claim that desecration of his (Zarqawi) corpse will increase animosity is like someone complaining about their tax dollars being misused.

Yes, let's give the body back with the hope that millions of wahhabist muslims will not hate us more?

Since we want to reduce the amount of 'animosity' America puts out to the world - specifically the Middle-East, lets just:

- shut down coka-cola since for some reason it's existence is offensive to the Saudi's
- Make american women cover their hair, face, and ankles (yea, i'd love to dress like that)
- shut down all American fast food restaurants in the Middle-East
- stop musical artists from singing about sex

The list goes on. We are hated around the world, especially in the Middle-East for ALOT of reasons that have nothing to do with American Foreign Policy.

Briana Dawson

Why do you hate your country?

Briana Dawson

Do you want the serious answer, or the flippant? Trust me, you won't like either.

Nice strawmen. And now you have the answer to the post after this one.

*hands you a mirror*

First, if his family is going to build a shrine to his martyrism, they will build it with or without his body.

Second, taking the moral high ground and returning his body intact makes us look better.

It is to our advantage to return his body and treat his family with respect instead of making him more of a "martyr".

Well in a perfect world violence does not beget violence. But as the bible says, an eye for an eye.

Would you rather the U.S. not respond to violence with violence? Maybe we should have sent Cardinal Mahoney to Afghanistan after they demolished the World Trade Center towers to talk about the issue of them hating us peacefully.

Maybe after 9/11 we should have held an international conference on "how America can change so that the rest of the world wont hate us".

Briana Dawson

Yay!



Don't imagine for a minute that you've cornered the market on the victim label.



To people who behead others and film it for recruiting purposes? You betcha!



Excellent. Thanks for playing, buhbye.



That this sentence is too long and meandering to accurately parse, so I'm still trying to figure out who you're saying is innocent? I was talking about Zarqawi.

Yes. Exactly. EXACTLY.

You seem to like that "strawmen" metaphor dont you? Can't think of anything better to say regardless of whether or not I or anyone else would like it?

Briana Dawson

More strawmen, more bullshit, more of the same crap that reminds me why debate tactics should be taught in schools so that we could have conversations, rather than "I never said that, how 'bout you address what was actually said" repeated ad nauseum to someone more interested in winning than being correct.

Do you know what a strawman is?

Would you like to?

Am I wasting my time trying to speak to you as though you were an adult?

(Hint - I use "strawman" a lot because you're using them a lot. If you'd like me to stop, I bet you can figure out what to do.)

Heh, this from someone who has thrown out countless ad-homs on this thread alone. Comedy.

You haven't addressed what has been said to you except for saying that: (1) you are physically ill (2) you are placing lorelei on ignore (3) uh, strawmen, again.

It really does sound like you are way out of your league in any political conversation or debate. You seem to say very little and call upon few if any facts at all.

Briana Dawson

What have you said that ISN'T a strawman? Seriously. Give me an example of ONE FUCKING THING you have said that is actually addressing what I HAVE said, rather than the usual kneejerk jingo bullshit idiocy you like to spew?

Then again Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone".

So I don't think we can take any moral high ground on this!

Didn't you get the memo? Quoting the bible is only relevant when it supports your desire for more war and killing.

Otherwise it's just liberal, AMERICA HATING HOGWASH.

*sigh*

Wow, nice reply. I CAN USE CAPS TOO

I've seen the light. Thanks Phedre, I appreciate ya.

oh i forgot to say FUCK.

Briana Dawson

Apparently, yes, adult conversation is beyond you. However, I'm glad at least one word stuck in your glorious mind.

And I thank you for that.

You fucking fuck! FUCK!

Briana Dawson

She's just catering her speech to her audience. No sense speaking over your head.

-Kiamat Dusk

Yes, but under my /feet/? The sewers are hardly congenial.

Oh, and welcome. I was wondering when you'd show up for the party.

didn't Jesus say, "turn the other cheek" "remove the beam from thy own eye before attending to the mote in thy neighbor's eye" "judge not lest ye be judged"