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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-29-2006 13:33
From: Siro Mfume
The press release I quoted was Sep. 23, 2001. Since then we haven't heard the FBI correct themselves, even about the 4 in the single link I mentioned. If this were a trial, we would see the defense adequately discredit the FBI in this fashion (as far as investigative integrity goes) and have the case thrown out. That's bad, see. I want to know what happened and who is responsible and have them taken to account for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_hijackers

As you can see in there, the 9/11 commission took over the investigation and then named 26 hijackers of which 19 actually carried them out. Now how many times do I need to say it, these are the people I believe are responsible for the hijackings and the planners. I posted this earlier but you ignored it

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/19/AR2005081901557.html

Seems Germany agrees with me.
Kendra Bancroft
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06-29-2006 14:47
From: Billybob Goodliffe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_hijackers

As you can see in there, the 9/11 commission took over the investigation and then named 26 hijackers of which 19 actually carried them out. Now how many times do I need to say it, these are the people I believe are responsible for the hijackings and the planners. I posted this earlier but you ignored it

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/19/AR2005081901557.html

Seems Germany agrees with me.



apparently they don't. Germany aquitted him of all charges.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-29-2006 14:51
From: Kendra Bancroft
apparently they don't. Germany aquitted him of all charges.

BERLIN, Aug. 19 -- A German court on Friday convicted a Moroccan man and sentenced him to seven years in prison as a member of the Hamburg cell that planned the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

hmmm sounds like an aquittal to me. they aquitted him of accessory to murder for the 3000 deaths on 9/11.
Kendra Bancroft
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06-29-2006 14:53
From the article YOU linked to:

"Mounir Motassadeq was acquitted of helping to plan the 9/11 attacks. "
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-29-2006 14:54
from the SAME article

At his first trial in 2003, Motassadeq was convicted of all the charges and sentenced to 15 years in prison, the maximum punishment in Germany.
Kendra Bancroft
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06-29-2006 14:57
From: Billybob Goodliffe
from the SAME article

At his first trial in 2003, Motassadeq was convicted of all the charges and sentenced to 15 years in prison, the maximum punishment in Germany.



But you were saying that Germany agreed he was part of 9-11, and the article CLEARLY states that Germany found he was not.

He was charged with being a part of a Hamburg terrorist cell --not with being a "hijacker" or any association with 9-11.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-29-2006 14:59
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But you were saying that Germany agreed he was part of 9-11, and the article CLEARLY states that Germany found he was not.

He was charged with being a part of a Hamburg terrorist cell --not with being a "hijacker" or any association with 9-11.

let me see now

According to testimony during the retrial, Motassadeq helped conceal the whereabouts of two of the Sept. 11 hijackers after they left for the United States, paying their rent and performing other tasks on their behalf. He also traveled to Afghanistan with other members of the Hamburg cell to receive military training and meet al Qaeda leaders, witnesses said.

no association with them eh?
Kendra Bancroft
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06-29-2006 15:00
From: Billybob Goodliffe
let me see now

According to testimony during the retrial, Motassadeq helped conceal the whereabouts of two of the Sept. 11 hijackers after they left for the United States, paying their rent and performing other tasks on their behalf. He also traveled to Afghanistan with other members of the Hamburg cell to receive military training and meet al Qaeda leaders, witnesses said.

no association with them eh?



Obviously the testimony wasn't found to be very credible if he was aquitted of those charges eh?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-29-2006 15:02
except he was convicted and now faces 7 years in jail for it
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06-29-2006 15:06
From: Billybob Goodliffe
except he was convicted and now faces 7 years in jail for it



For being a terrorist. Yes.


Not all terrorists are Al-Qaida. Terrorism is a tactic ya know --it's not a club.
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-29-2006 15:09
From: Kendra Bancroft
For being a terrorist. Yes.


Not all terrorists are Al-Qaida. Terrorism is a tactic ya know --it's not a club.

so his trips to the training grounds and such were just vacations from the busy city life in Hamburg.

He also traveled to Afghanistan with other members of the Hamburg cell to receive military training and meet al Qaeda leaders, witnesses said.
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06-29-2006 15:23
From: Billybob Goodliffe
so his trips to the training grounds and such were just vacations from the busy city life in Hamburg.

He also traveled to Afghanistan with other members of the Hamburg cell to receive military training and meet al Qaeda leaders, witnesses said.



and this makes him a part of 9-11 how?
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Billybob Goodliffe
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06-29-2006 15:40
From: Kendra Bancroft
and this makes him a part of 9-11 how?

ok lets do the math,

1. He's a member of the Hamburg cell
2. the Hamburg cell planned the 9/11 attacks
3. He went to Afghanistan at least once to train and meet with the leaders of Al Qaeda
4. He covered for the ones who actually carried out the attack

1+2+3+4 = involvement
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06-29-2006 15:44
From: Billybob Goodliffe
ok lets do the math,

1. He's a member of the Hamburg cell
2. the Hamburg cell planned the 9/11 attacks
3. He went to Afghanistan at least once to train and meet with the leaders of Al Qaeda
4. He covered for the ones who actually carried out the attack

1+2+3+4 = involvement



Gee. If only the United States had cooperated with German officials. Hmmm --I wonder why they didn't? Do you have any answers?
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06-29-2006 16:47
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Last I checked, it was up to police to solve murders. As far as I've seen we have yet to positively identify or connect anyone directly involved in that attack.

Yes, and we turned to the police to solve the crime of Dec. 7, 1941
hmm
you are right, it is the job of the police to solve crimes, but it is the job of the military to protect our interests over sea's and defend us from attack from abroad.
As for identifing anybody, well when someone stands up and says "I ordered it" that to me is a confession.
The biggest problem so far I see on the "War" of terror is, the government has not decided yet how to handle it. is it a criminal investigation? or is it a War? There are very different rules to follow depending on which, and they cannot continue to try to use both sets of rules, if it is a war, well guess what the sods locked up in cuba have no rights to a trial, they are prisoners of war,we must pay them and follow other articles of the Geneva convention, but we have no obligation to let them go, or see a lawyer
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06-29-2006 22:43
From: Billybob Goodliffe
ok lets do the math,

1. He's a member of the Hamburg cell
2. the Hamburg cell planned the 9/11 attacks
3. He went to Afghanistan at least once to train and meet with the leaders of Al Qaeda
4. He covered for the ones who actually carried out the attack

1+2+3+4 = involvement


o rly? The official line is that mohammed atta planned the attacks, not some terrorist cell in Germany. So which is it?
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06-29-2006 22:45
... he was IN the terrorist cell in Germany :rolleyes:
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Siro Mfume
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06-29-2006 22:50
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Yes, and we turned to the police to solve the crime of Dec. 7, 1941
hmm
you are right, it is the job of the police to solve crimes, but it is the job of the military to protect our interests over sea's and defend us from attack from abroad.
As for identifing anybody, well when someone stands up and says "I ordered it" that to me is a confession.
The biggest problem so far I see on the "War" of terror is, the government has not decided yet how to handle it. is it a criminal investigation? or is it a War? There are very different rules to follow depending on which, and they cannot continue to try to use both sets of rules, if it is a war, well guess what the sods locked up in cuba have no rights to a trial, they are prisoners of war,we must pay them and follow other articles of the Geneva convention, but we have no obligation to let them go, or see a lawyer


Hey troll, what's up.

People could positively identify the planes attacking them on that date. Further the declaration of war was a pretty big tipoff.

Nobody has yet been able to directly identify markings on the planes involved in 9/11. (Not that we'd expect an identification at the speeds the supposed planes are capable of.)

If you're comfortable with or confident of the confession, hold a trial so that evidence may be entered into the record.

Also if you would like to declare people prisoners of war, it helps to declare war against something that's not an abstract.
Siro Mfume
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06-29-2006 23:00
From: Lorelei Patel
... he was IN the terrorist cell in Germany :rolleyes:


I would love someone to explain how his passport survived if he was on that plane (which supposedly destroyed a building).
Lorelei Patel
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06-29-2006 23:54
A lot of papers survived the destruction of the towers that day, as a poster in a previous thread pointed out. Doesn't matter, though. Your mind's made up.
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Interesting link to peruse about 9-11-2001
06-30-2006 10:39
From: Lorelei Patel
A lot of papers survived the destruction of the towers that day, as a poster in a previous thread pointed out. Doesn't matter, though. Your mind's made up.



http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

I have not read all the material here but it's worth looking at, at least.
Kendra Bancroft
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06-30-2006 10:59
From: Lorelei Patel
A lot of papers survived the destruction of the towers that day, as a poster in a previous thread pointed out. Doesn't matter, though. Your mind's made up.



How many papers survived the exploding plane that the passport was aboard?
It's one thing to survive a falling building, quite another to survive a fireball.
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Lorelei Patel
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06-30-2006 11:49
From: steve Mahfouz
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/

I have not read all the material here but it's worth looking at, at least.



As a general rule, I don't go to conspiracy theory sites for information.
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Siro Mfume
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06-30-2006 12:37
From: Kendra Bancroft
How many papers survived the exploding plane that the passport was aboard?
It's one thing to survive a falling building, quite another to survive a fireball.


especially since that fireball supposedly melted steel.
Kendra Bancroft
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06-30-2006 12:55
From: Lorelei Patel
As a general rule, I don't go to conspiracy theory sites for information.



Because that might open your mind?
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