1.6 doesn't work...

Lordfly Digeridoo@

Because I choose too, and its the OS I use, its more a development system, since i use it for web development, SL is simply something i do when I’m absolutely bored, I’m not serious about SL.

Mike

Really - is that so? You asked them for their reason not to upgrade?

I cant either log in to SL anymore and I dont have the money for a new PC - I was lucky to get a new video card for my b-day at the time I wanted to sign up for SL for the first time.

Comments like yours Kasandra, pisses me off, dont pretend to know anything about other people when you most certainly dont seem to care

Though, there are other game companies, as well as software companies that have to continue to support 98.

Not to mention WinME last I knew is still supported, and SL don't accomodate for it either. Almost wonder if it has anything to do with the core code... where XP and 2000 are based more off of NT, and ME and 98 are the 9x brands.

Okay, apologies for challenging what a Linden is saying here... but I've got WinXP, and for those of you with 2000 and/or XP, using an ATI card... guess I ask on the whole of ATI users, when is SL going to have AGP support for ATI cards? Yes, I do realize ATI has shoddy OpenGL usage, but what about a work-around, or DirectX rendering?

PS - I know for many moons now the talk has been that ATI and Linden Labs have been arguing back and forth on this... but still haven't seen any signs of a fix? I mean, does seem a hair silly that it don't run on ME, don't run on 98, has a hard time running under Linux or other OSes besides Mac, XP, 2000; better run with specifically an nVidia card (or even Intel, which most times is the "generic" video processor on the motherboard, which most us powerusers circumvent with our own video cards) and/or need to revert to older drivers, or use other drivers than what's already there and working... don't get me wrong, I love SL... just seems odd it's more written and structured to run on a smaller percentage of actual machines out there. Almost scary when you stop and think that to best run SL, your best choice might be to build a whole new machine around its requirements.

PPS - Pardon my french, but it does kind of suck for such users as Fieron, or others, who may have already paid ahead for their account, or are paying for land, or a sim, etc that can suddenly no longer access SL. In essence they're shelling out money for something they can't even access. And yes, the system requirements do state only XP and/or 2000, or MacOS... however, perhaps when signing up for SL, there should be a system probe to detect the exact OS, or even have Linden Labs ask straight out what Operating System, etc the user is running, before actually accepting the cash. Granted yes, there were those out there with ME or so that it did miraculously work for, and it was a bit of a blessing; now to take that blessing away and still have the cash does sorta' stink. And now to stir up the bees nest even more, guess the curiosity question of the moment, is Linden Labs prepared to offer even a partial refund to those who may have paid in advance for their account/membership, sims, land, etc that can no longer use SL?

I agree, it sucks when it worked before and suddenly doesn't.

I like SL, tho, so i upgraded... new graphic card, more memory. The NVidia FX 5200 works fine, and was on offer for $20, last I heard, at Compusa. I paid 50 Euros for mine on Ebay in Germany - about $65... A lot more cash! SL refused to run point balnk with the onboard Intel "pseudographics" card. I have heard that SL runs with as little as 256 MB... But Only Just. I had 512, and got system stalls, where everything is locked until memory ifs freed up. At 1024 MB, everything is fine..

About testing the computer b4 accepting a subscription... I run SL on one of several computers.. how does that get covered? It is stated in the system requierements, tho...

I also have an old XP SP2 computer, with a 350 MHz P II, 768 MBytes and an Nividia TNT2... and SL runs.. I should say, crawls... lol.. even tho it warns me about the unsupported graphic card.

So next time you see someone standing around for hours, they may just be rezzing on a way underpowered system - or in fact, trying to walk! lol Chat to them, don't assume they are AFK...

SL is Leading Edge, I think, and needs the best it can get to work properly. I think LL has done a Great Job here, and am prepared to hold up my side.

Is SL Cheap? No. The best? For me, without a doubt.. So I hang in there, and do what I have to , to get the best experience I can And with the right system already in place, $9.95 one time. and you can become a L$ Millionaire... theoretically

If you really want a more stable experience, try Linux and Wine.... costs very little besides Hard Work, and apparently works fine (once you get it running)..

Looks like 1.6 dose work on server 2003 SP1, i reinstalled SP1, when sl was alrady installed, and it seems to still work, strange.

You are not serious about SL? Seems you are to me. Writing posts...reworking your system...

@ZsuZsanna

Have I been in SL since i got it working ?, no.

I had to reinstall SP1 anyway, and out of curiousity I loaded up SL to see, but havent botherd to login yet.

Hey everyone....
I'm a brand new user and not terribly handy with computers, so please be nice and don't get mad at me for beating a dead horse, so to speak

I just downloaded/registered for SL last night. Upon attempting to log in, though, it let me enter my info and started to sign on, then just stopped and closed. It got to that screen with the grey scroll bar that indicates progress with loading, and it looks like it will load about 75% of the way. It says that it is "pre-caching", then the window just disappears and I'm back at my desktop.

I'm running on XP, so it is not the OS problem you've all been discussing. But the problem sounds to be in the same vein, so I'm hoping someone can give a dumb newbie some help! I've tried this a bunch of times and it does the same thing every time. The next time I sign on, it will start out with the little "SL detects that the last time you logged on, the program froze or crashed. Would you like to send error report?" window, but I only sent it once because I didn't want to get on the tech people's nerves.

I thank you all so much in advance for your help. I hope to hear back soon!

Well, as far as testing goes, there are programs/games out there that query system specs before even installing, Final Fantasy XI I believe does this, also has a system tester to download and run to see if your system can run it.

As far as performance, I actually run SL really well. Only bogs are my video-card, cause ATI does better at DirectX rendering and has AGP support, but shoddy OpenGL rendering performance, so inside of SL can't enable AGP acceleration, and rezzing can take a bit. Only other bog is my internet connection... on a really high-speed DSL, but also out in the sticks, so the speed isn't always contant.

My system though is XP Pro (with a dual-boot to RedHat Linux 8.0), 2.56Ghz P4, 1GB RAM, 128MB VRAM on an ATI Radeon 9200 AGP, Sound Blaster Audigy MP3+.

(EDIT) PS: That chatlog also contains information like Network Throttle, and all sorts of other logged system info, so the log file could get huge pretty quick, depending on how busy the area is, what you're doing, how long you're on, etc. Cheers.

apparently when you install sl it'll say that it may crash on win98 but how can it even crash in win98 if it doesn't even start in win98

well right now im saving up for my own comp and then i'll be back

<sings> if i had a million dolars, if i had a million dollars </sings>

I am for one suprised at the narrow support that second life offers

No ATI??
dont get me wrong, I AM a huge supporter of nvidia cards, kinda grates my cheese that I cant run it on my upgraded Powermac which is slightly above the system specs, but with a ATI radeon.

No Linux Client ??
are you Fkin kiddin me?? the only way I even knew about this porn in 3d was on Slashdot, seems like a lag pit of hell, constant screwup, no content "world" would benifit from some ruthlessly small hard core scripters (since in my breif time in SL, most of the above is caused by overbloated scripts and 100's of them running)

No WINDOS?
yea 98 and ME (ick) are dead, but it doesnt mean that there arnt ppl that still use it. besides whats the big deal is that 30 prim bed really looking better on a NT based system? NT based OS's shure arnt helping me not crash with this recent 1.6.3 (.2?) black hole data loss system recource eating ... ill stop becuase I probally couldnt do better but you get the idea.
I can see why it isnt being supported by LL, it keeps tards with 300mhz pentium II's from getting in, but in the days when the 800mhz machine were new, thats what the majority came with, so LL should up their system specs past 1999 machines if they want 2003+ performance... (yea that probally got a few of you going)

This forum is a damn joke, ... i typed in animation and this post was at the top of the list, sigh, the fourm is suposta be split up, where as now it has greif and complaints in the same section as textures and scripts.. extreamly hard to find usefull and relevent information.

No Animated Gif files??
WTF i have animations that I use in my shops and I offer services... before I waste L$ I let the client preview them on my website as animated gif files... It supports transparency 256 colors is usually better than what sl can do on complex anims and the file size is decently small. A good example of this would be one I did recently the gif file was 100kb the 100000x100000 spritemap I was forced to make in raw format was 1.2gb.
I dont care how much of a pixel god you are once compressed into gawd awefull jpg format its still over 100kb and or it looks like total ass.

QuickTime Video?
when the whole world looks like it needs a saturation boost, textures take forever to load, lets throw in a High Quality huge file huge bandwidth video streamer! lets face facts broadcast quality in MPG can squash 1 hour in 1 cd BQ QT is lucky to get half that.
Its great it looks good, but its kinda like shitting a diamond... who cares becuase your in soo much pain from doing it.

Sigh less than 2 months inworld and i have a list like that... might tell you the longevity of this for me

Osgeld Barmy

(buy my crap)

I can't login to SL for about 40 minutes now with an error that says sorry something is wrong with you you reject die.